A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

Started by winghalfback, May 27, 2015, 03:16:23 PM

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tonto1888

Quote from: Pub Bore on November 19, 2025, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 19, 2025, 01:41:35 PMdo you not need some level of irish to teach in the south?

At primary level, yes.  If you were educated outside the 26 counties you can get up to 5 years to bring yourself up to the required level.

At secondary level, generally no.  Unless of course you are employed to teach Irish, teach in a Gaelscoil, or a school in a Gaeltacht area where Irish is the first language.  So if you teach Physics in a secondary school outside the Gaeltacht, there's no requirement to have any proficiency in Irish.

Cheers for that

OakLeaf

Has anyone read any of the two Irish Unity books by Ben Collins? Just heard about them yesterday. He grew up in a Unionist background and is advocating for a United Ireland. I read about half of Brendan O'Learys book, Making Sense of a United Ireland, which was decent but hard going. I'm wondering if Collins is any easier read?

Rossfan

Does that Court decision making teaching religion illegal apply to Catholic schools?
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andoireabu

Quote from: Pub Bore on November 19, 2025, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 19, 2025, 01:41:35 PMdo you not need some level of irish to teach in the south?

At primary level, yes.  If you were educated outside the 26 counties you can get up to 5 years to bring yourself up to the required level.

At secondary level, generally no.  Unless of course you are employed to teach Irish, teach in a Gaelscoil, or a school in a Gaeltacht area where Irish is the first language.  So if you teach Physics in a secondary school outside the Gaeltacht, there's no requirement to have any proficiency in Irish.
So then what way would schools be set up in a UI? Do you keep Irish as a mandatory subject even though the majority in the North wouldn't have the level to teach it, or do you leave it to the individual school to decide whether to take it on or not and remove it as a qualification? Which curriculum gets followed or does it need a whole new one? And how do you set up the GCSE / A-Level / Leaving cert? Let the current year groups run with what they are doing and start the new first years on the new system?

Be interesting to see how it all works out but you would imagine identity, flags and anthems will be talked about more
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johnnycool

On day one in a united Ireland none of these things will change and all change thereafter will be baby steps otherwise it will be a shítshow.

As for flags etc I really don't care much about what we end up with and TBH the Cloughey Red Hand defenders flute band could march up and down the Ballygalget Road twice daily and I wouldn't give one shiny shíte so long as we're in a United Ireland.
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