Armagh v Donegal USFC 14/06/2015

Started by Agent Orange, May 17, 2015, 06:31:29 PM

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StGallsGAA

It's hard to imagine Armagh being worse than in the 80's but Ciaran McKeever seems to have captained them down to that level.  There will be songs in his honour sung in Tyrone and Down! 😆

yellowcard

Quote from: StGallsGAA on June 14, 2015, 05:40:22 PM
It's hard to imagine Armagh being worse than in the 80's but Ciaran McKeever seems to have captained them down to that level.  There will be songs in his honour sung in Tyrone and Down! 😆

Wtf? McKeever was one of the few that performed well today. Sounds like you have a wee bit too much hate.

Over the Bar

McKeever usually does play well but he's undoubtedly a poor captain.  More likely to start a schmozzle than step in to prevent one.

Whitnail

We caught them cold

2 points scored in the 1st half


Armagh like Tyrone need a kind draw in Ulster to get some traction first. They dont need to be meeting us or Monaghan in their first game.
Am convinced we will met one or both teams again in the comming months & both will be different types of games than that.
Armagh never got going at all

Lacey is so important to the way we play & there is that slow metamorphosis happening & hopefully ending in us defending higher up the pitch.
We are becomming a much easier team to watch under Rory. For me he's stepping out of Jim's shadow slowky but surley.

always_next_year

Although I don't think that Armagh performed anywhere near their best today - I believe that this is probably a fair representation of where we are at at the moment; a young and inexperienced team who have a lot of learning to do before they can really compete with the top 5 teams. We will hopefully take a lot from this and get a few more games in the back door. C.Raff, McKeever and A.Mallon the only three who performed today imo. Very disappointing.

yellowcard

Quote from: Whitnail on June 14, 2015, 06:10:24 PM
We caught them cold

2 points scored in the 1st half


Armagh like Tyrone need a kind draw in Ulster to get some traction first. They dont need to be meeting us or Monaghan in their first game.
Am convinced we will met one or both teams again in the comming months & both will be different types of games than that.
Armagh never got going at all

Lacey is so important to the way we play & there is that slow metamorphosis happening & hopefully ending in us defending higher up the pitch.
We are becomming a much easier team to watch under Rory. For me he's stepping out of Jim's shadow slowky but surley.

Youse definitely kick the long ball in much more often than under McGunness and it was that tactic that won Donegal the game in the first 10 minutes with McBrearty wreaking havoc. Then once youse got the lead Donegal reverted to type by playing keep ball which was very hard to watch.

Throw ball

I commented on other forums of the absolute fallacy that Armagh are a hard physical team. Last year Cavan played the media well after they had charged into Armagh at the parade. The other incidents against Tyrone and Donegal were nothing. There were far more worse incidents in the Galway v Mayo game today. I have been told that Spillane said Armagh spent too much time in the gym. If he had been sitting were I was he could see how physically superior Donegal were man for man. Armagh were too nice today. The higher free count is as much to do with Donegal knowing how to commit the half foul - doing enough to slow the player without doing enough for the referee to give a free - and Armagh's lazy or over eager tackling. Donegal also know how to win frees for Murphy to convert.

For Armagh to win today they needed everything to go their way. The opposite happened.

You can talk all you like about tactics too but the match was over after 10 minutes. If Armagh had tried to play more open after that they could have been beat by 20. It will take more than 1 match to judge the management.

Whitnail

Quote from: yellowcard on June 14, 2015, 06:18:36 PM
Quote from: Whitnail on June 14, 2015, 06:10:24 PM
We caught them cold

2 points scored in the 1st half


Armagh like Tyrone need a kind draw in Ulster to get some traction first. They dont need to be meeting us or Monaghan in their first game.
Am convinced we will met one or both teams again in the comming months & both will be different types of games than that.
Armagh never got going at all

Lacey is so important to the way we play & there is that slow metamorphosis happening & hopefully ending in us defending higher up the pitch.
We are becomming a much easier team to watch under Rory. For me he's stepping out of Jim's shadow slowky but surley.

Youse definitely kick the long ball in much more often than under McGunness and it was that tactic that won Donegal the game in the first 10 minutes with McBrearty wreaking havoc. Then once youse got the lead Donegal reverted to type by playing keep ball which was very hard to watch.

Can't dissagree with that and we will be caught out eventually if we jeep that up but in fairness Armagh should have abandoned the blanket for the last ten minutes and harrased our back line &stopped us doing it.

Kerry did that to us in last year's all Ireland final so I know how demoralizing it is

SouthDublinBro

Long may Armagh remain in the wilderness where they belong. ^_^

naka

Quote from: J70 on June 14, 2015, 05:00:02 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 14, 2015, 04:23:31 PM
Just in from the game, that was atrocious. No discernible game plan from Armagh, no passion from the majority of the team as well. Thought Coldrick was terrible.

I thought Coldrick was all right. One or two questionable frees and an inexplicable lack of a card for an Armagh midfielder, but nothing that made any difference and overall a decent performance,  at least from tv viewing. Armagh people should have the ref well down their list of things to be upset about after that game.
Best team won but coldrick was awful
Donegal played him well got some easy frees yet we seemed to work so hard for our frees
Bad day but Armagh are young we are building so not too despondent

always_next_year

Quote from: naka on June 14, 2015, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 14, 2015, 05:00:02 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 14, 2015, 04:23:31 PM
Just in from the game, that was atrocious. No discernible game plan from Armagh, no passion from the majority of the team as well. Thought Coldrick was terrible.

I thought Coldrick was all right. One or two questionable frees and an inexplicable lack of a card for an Armagh midfielder, but nothing that made any difference and overall a decent performance,  at least from tv viewing. Armagh people should have the ref well down their list of things to be upset about after that game.
Best team won but coldrick was awful
Donegal played him well got some easy frees yet we seemed to work so hard for our frees
Bad day but Armagh are young we are building so not too despondent

Would have to agree - if Geezer can manage to get this group to stick together they will come good. Still building..

BennyCake

Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 14, 2015, 06:58:36 PM
Long may Armagh remain in the wilderness where they belong. ^_^

Those 3 defeats in 2002/03 must still be hurting.

yellowcard

Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 14, 2015, 06:58:36 PM
Long may Armagh remain in the wilderness where they belong. ^_^

Never knew the Dubs seen us as rivals but there you go. I'd take that as a compliment.

INDIANA

Quote from: naka on June 14, 2015, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 14, 2015, 05:00:02 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 14, 2015, 04:23:31 PM
Just in from the game, that was atrocious. No discernible game plan from Armagh, no passion from the majority of the team as well. Thought Coldrick was terrible.

I thought Coldrick was all right. One or two questionable frees and an inexplicable lack of a card for an Armagh midfielder, but nothing that made any difference and overall a decent performance,  at least from tv viewing. Armagh people should have the ref well down their list of things to be upset about after that game.

Sounds like a Fianna Fail election manifesto. You're going nowhere under Geezer.
Best team won but coldrick was awful
Donegal played him well got some easy frees yet we seemed to work so hard for our frees
Bad day but Armagh are young we are building so not too despondent

An Watcher

Did Kerry not show the way to beat Donegal in last years AIF. Similarly,  could Armagh not have copied Tyrone tactics in the previous round. Very surprised at Armagh. Very poor