The same-sex marriage referendum debate

[T Fearon]

Every child deserves to have a mother and father and to be reared in that environment.I'm sure every child would prefer that option (if at the age of reason) and every adult who has grown up in that environment (the vast majority) appreciates and is thankful for it.

Muppet what has an instance of failure by parents got to do with this debate?

[Maguire01]

Every child deserves to have a mother and father and to be reared in that environment.I'm sure every child would prefer that option (if at the age of reason) and every adult who has grown up in that environment (the vast majority) appreciates and is thankful for it.

So where was your opposition to single people being allowed to adopt?

[T Fearon]

A single parent is ok.Many children lose a biological parent to death early in their lives and therefore being raised by a single parent is not unnatural

[easytiger95]

And being raised by two fathers or two mothers is unnatural?

[ONeill]

Brian O'Driscoll lines up with Gay Byrne to support same-sex marriage in Ireland

I'm waiting on Johnny Logan's stance before I know what to think. FFS Johnny. Get yer finger out.

[T Fearon]

Being raised by two fathers or two mothers is a bizarre proposition

[paul768]

I'd love to know when was this magical time in the past when Ireland was more tolerant of dissent than it is now.

Intolerance of dissent:
https://youtu.be/HRMTRwdXEFE

[Maguire01]

A single parent is ok.Many children lose a biological parent to death early in their lives and therefore being raised by a single parent is not unnatural

The No side argue that child needs a mother and a father. Allowing a single person to adopt is therefore inconsistent with that - it must be denying the child at least as much as allowing two same sex couples to adopt.

Also, the argument that "We should not point to the existence of broken homes and use it as justification to create more broken homes" has been made on this very thread from the No side. Following that logic, no single person should be allowed to adopt.

Your argument shows that your problem is not with a child not having a mother and a father, but with a child being raised by a same sex couple.

[T Fearon]

Many children for generations have been successfully raised in one parent families,this is normal.

Raising children in same sex relationships is not natural and there is no evidence that it will be successful

[Maguire01]

Many children for generations have been successfully raised in one parent families,this is normal.

Raising children in same sex relationships is not natural and there is no evidence that it will be successful

My point is that your argument is at odds with the claim that children need a mother and a father.

[T Fearon]

That is the ideal,however very often due to unforeseen circumstances (untimely death) many children are deprived of a parent and are successfully reared by one parent.Not unnatural.

In terms of adoption I assume the authorities give preference to two opposite sex people in a relationship over a single parent?

[muppet]

I'd love to know when was this magical time in the past when Ireland was more tolerant of dissent than it is now.

Intolerance of dissent:
https://youtu.be/HRMTRwdXEFE

It isn't really intolerance, it is total ignorance.

No campaigners should be allowed to conduct their campaigns. Just like anyone else.

[muppet]

That is the ideal,however very often due to unforeseen circumstances (untimely death) many children are deprived of a parent and are successfully reared by one parent.Not unnatural.

In terms of adoption I assume the authorities give preference to two opposite sex people in a relationship over a single parent?

This is the same old shite, rehashed over and over again. Decade after decade.

Anyone remember the 1995 No divorce campaign?

Does this ring a bell?

"Hello divorce, goodbye daddy"

How come our society didn't collapse with this actual direct change of status of the family in Ireland, rather than the vague link being poorly articulated today?

[Maguire01]

That is the ideal,however very often due to unforeseen circumstances (untimely death) many children are deprived of a parent and are successfully reared by one parent.Not unnatural.

In terms of adoption I assume the authorities give preference to two opposite sex people in a relationship over a single parent?

I don't honestly know, but have heard numerous times the claim that there are enough heterosexual couples to adopt as an argument against allowing same sex couples to adopt. If this is really the case, would you ever allow single people to adopt?

[easytiger95]

Usually detest the Sindo, and never buy it, but I read it for lack of anything else at lunch in work today - Gene Kerrigan had a very good article on the difference between honest debate and campaigning - Hello Divorce, Goodbye Daddy came up a lot.