Sigerson 2015

Started by Any craic, January 27, 2015, 10:32:20 PM

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Ciarrai_thuaidh

Quote from: INDIANA on February 11, 2015, 10:58:15 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on February 08, 2015, 07:04:14 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on February 08, 2015, 06:07:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 08, 2015, 01:59:07 PM
ITSligo were guilty of a very genuine but admittedly a very stupid mistake whereas Queen's seemed to be fully aware of what they were doing but as a point of principle played their players as they believe them to be legal and have issue with the Stranmillis ruling based on the fact that Stranmillis is part of Queens and they hold QUB student cards. The fact that a GAA club has been set up in Stranmillis has made things very difficult for Queens.
Despite my ITS loyalties I personally believe both teams have received what they deserve however it would appear harsh when we see other colleges break rules year after year without any reprimand. It is for this reason I believe Sigerson cup days are numbered which is an awful shame.

No they didn't. SU President is essentially being  a pro footballer for a year. Universities football is now a joke. It ceased being a proper competition a long time ago. Just an arms race now.

In case it evaded your attention, a team of all genuine students from UCC won the competition last year.

The nature of third level these days means there will always be a few cases of dubious eligibility every now and then. It is still a fantastic competition and this stone-minded attitude of "Sigerson is a farce, end of" is just baffling to be honest.

Its a joke of a competition that's long past it's sell by date as the top 3/4 colleges use any means necessary to sign up the country's best players on mickey mouse courses.

Nothing baffling about the truth

;D

God you are clueless! What Mickey Mouse courses are/were the UCC team that won it last year doing tell me? Or say DCU who are looking good to go all the way this year..what Mickey Mouse courses are they doing?

Anybody calling the Sigerson a "Joke" of a competition is pig ignorant or knows zero about Gaelic Football..or both!
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

ck

#241
UCD beat GMIT
Carlow IT beat UL

Sigerson weekend semi finals
UCD V DCU
ITS/UCC V CIT

Syferus

Quote from: ck on February 12, 2015, 06:23:55 PM
UCD beat GMIT
Carlow IT beat UL

Sigerson weekend semi finals
UCD V DCU
UCC V CIT

Have Sligo been put out again CK ;D

INDIANA

Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on February 12, 2015, 12:01:09 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on February 11, 2015, 10:58:15 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on February 08, 2015, 07:04:14 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on February 08, 2015, 06:07:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 08, 2015, 01:59:07 PM
ITSligo were guilty of a very genuine but admittedly a very stupid mistake whereas Queen's seemed to be fully aware of what they were doing but as a point of principle played their players as they believe them to be legal and have issue with the Stranmillis ruling based on the fact that Stranmillis is part of Queens and they hold QUB student cards. The fact that a GAA club has been set up in Stranmillis has made things very difficult for Queens.
Despite my ITS loyalties I personally believe both teams have received what they deserve however it would appear harsh when we see other colleges break rules year after year without any reprimand. It is for this reason I believe Sigerson cup days are numbered which is an awful shame.

No they didn't. SU President is essentially being  a pro footballer for a year. Universities football is now a joke. It ceased being a proper competition a long time ago. Just an arms race now.

In case it evaded your attention, a team of all genuine students from UCC won the competition last year.

The nature of third level these days means there will always be a few cases of dubious eligibility every now and then. It is still a fantastic competition and this stone-minded attitude of "Sigerson is a farce, end of" is just baffling to be honest.

Its a joke of a competition that's long past it's sell by date as the top 3/4 colleges use any means necessary to sign up the country's best players on mickey mouse courses.

Nothing baffling about the truth

;D

God you are clueless! What Mickey Mouse courses are/were the UCC team that won it last year doing tell me? Or say DCU who are looking good to go all the way this year..what Mickey Mouse courses are they doing?

Anybody calling the Sigerson a "Joke" of a competition is pig ignorant or knows zero about Gaelic Football..or both!

It's someone on the ground who knows the score. Unfortunately you're like Duffy and O Neill. Out of touch with reality my dear friend.

DCU have had Sigerson Cup winners in recent years who didn't even pass the LC.

Ciarrai_thuaidh

#244
Quote from: INDIANA on February 12, 2015, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on February 12, 2015, 12:01:09 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on February 11, 2015, 10:58:15 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on February 08, 2015, 07:04:14 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on February 08, 2015, 06:07:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 08, 2015, 01:59:07 PM
ITSligo were guilty of a very genuine but admittedly a very stupid mistake whereas Queen's seemed to be fully aware of what they were doing but as a point of principle played their players as they believe them to be legal and have issue with the Stranmillis ruling based on the fact that Stranmillis is part of Queens and they hold QUB student cards. The fact that a GAA club has been set up in Stranmillis has made things very difficult for Queens.
Despite my ITS loyalties I personally believe both teams have received what they deserve however it would appear harsh when we see other colleges break rules year after year without any reprimand. It is for this reason I believe Sigerson cup days are numbered which is an awful shame.

No they didn't. SU President is essentially being  a pro footballer for a year. Universities football is now a joke. It ceased being a proper competition a long time ago. Just an arms race now.

In case it evaded your attention, a team of all genuine students from UCC won the competition last year.

The nature of third level these days means there will always be a few cases of dubious eligibility every now and then. It is still a fantastic competition and this stone-minded attitude of "Sigerson is a farce, end of" is just baffling to be honest.

Its a joke of a competition that's long past it's sell by date as the top 3/4 colleges use any means necessary to sign up the country's best players on mickey mouse courses.

Nothing baffling about the truth

;D

God you are clueless! What Mickey Mouse courses are/were the UCC team that won it last year doing tell me? Or say DCU who are looking good to go all the way this year..what Mickey Mouse courses are they doing?

Anybody calling the Sigerson a "Joke" of a competition is pig ignorant or knows zero about Gaelic Football..or both!

It's someone on the ground who knows the score. Unfortunately you're like Duffy and O Neill. Out of touch with reality my dear friend.

DCU have had Sigerson Cup winners in recent years who didn't even pass the LC.

Typically shallow argument..I asked you a simple direct question about the current Sigerson champions and you ignore me and skip back a few years. ::)
"Sigerson is a joke of a competition that is past its sell by date"...If you have watched last years games and watch this years games and stand over that statement, then I'm afraid it is you, not me, who is out of touch with reality.
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

Syferus

To be fair Ciarrai UCC were an anomaly in the perspective of the last decade or so. There is a rotten core in the Sigerson right now and until it's corrected the competition will operate under a cloud of suspicion and derision.

Ciarrai_thuaidh

Quote from: Syferus on February 12, 2015, 08:33:13 PM
To be fair Ciarrai UCC were an anomaly in the perspective of the last decade or so. There is a rotten core in the Sigerson right now and until it's corrected the competition will operate under a cloud of suspicion and derision.

I've no problem admitting there's been a suspicion of illegality about some teams, but the DIT team who won 2 years ago for example..who was "dodgy" out of that group would you say?
I know there was a lot of talk about the UUJ team last year and some of the DCU players that won a couple of titles, but I think a lot of it was down to the age of some of the players. Bryan Cullen must've been 30 and playing Sigerson at one stage for example. If they put a cap of 25 on it or something maybe it wouldn't be the worst idea. There is the 2 course/6 year limit in place now so I don't see a lot of scope for abuse.

To be quite fair, I'm here arguing in favour of the Sigerson, but the worst case of all was Tralee back in the 90s..there were several fellas that won 2/3 titles back then that never saw the inside of the college.  :-\

Anyway, as Syf points out, UCC are a real college team with a great manager and play good football aswell. Hoping to mitch off work to watch them tomorrow again.
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

Highlander3

Quote from: Any craic on February 11, 2015, 10:56:59 PM
There was a red card for Ryan Johnston 3 mins into the video, which was a big point in the game. St Mary's were well on top at the time. See it for yourself.

Can't really see why Johnson got the line for that

rodney trotter

#248
Brian Cullen was last in DCU in 2010 when they won their second Sigerson, he will be 31 this year so wouldn't have been him that was nearly 30.

Colm Begley will be 29 this year and still in DCU, although he spent a 3 years or so in Australia playig AFL, so was late starting.

ck

Quote from: Syferus on February 12, 2015, 06:30:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 12, 2015, 06:23:55 PM
UCD beat GMIT
Carlow IT beat UL

Sigerson weekend semi finals
UCD V DCU
UCC V CIT

Have Sligo been put out again CK ;D

ITS/UCC v ITC

We may pull off a shock tomorrow! Up against it big style but nothing to loose

Ciarrai_thuaidh

Quote from: ck on February 12, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 12, 2015, 06:30:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 12, 2015, 06:23:55 PM
UCD beat GMIT
Carlow IT beat UL

Sigerson weekend semi finals
UCD V DCU
UCC V CIT

Have Sligo been put out again CK ;D

ITS/UCC v ITC

We may pull off a shock tomorrow! Up against it big style but nothing to loose

Would be quite a shock alright, but you never know..Cup football is all about on a given day!
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

Blowitupref

Half time UCC 0-7 IT Sligo 0-4.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Blowitupref

Full time UCC 0-13 IT Sligo 0-8
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Syferus

What I expected, but at least ITS went out of the competition the right way and not the wrong way. Looking like a DCU-UCC final to me.

ck

Yeah probably a predictable result but ITS gave great account of themselves apparently but beaten by a far superior team.
DCU won't have it easy over UCD but should come through. DCU UCC final with DCU to win