Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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JoG2

Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 08:07:17 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 07:52:25 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 07:45:21 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 06:37:38 AMThankfully the rules were changed...  8) and the game saved.
And now they want to change the rules yet again. Just leave them be for 5 minutes
Got a major overhaul after the way it was so abused for years.. just a few wee final tweaks will be ok 👍
Yep. Can't wait for every team to be forced to play the same style of football. Will make it very entertaining

Like the last dozen years?

Truthsayer

Quote from: JoG2 on August 13, 2025, 09:12:52 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 08:07:17 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 07:52:25 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 07:45:21 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 06:37:38 AMThankfully the rules were changed...  8) and the game saved.
And now they want to change the rules yet again. Just leave them be for 5 minutes
Got a major overhaul after the way it was so abused for years.. just a few wee final tweaks will be ok 👍
Yep. Can't wait for every team to be forced to play the same style of football. Will make it very entertaining

Like the last dozen years?
Exactly... 💯

Rossfan

Anyone harking back to pre FRC football (chess more like) needs to cop on. Or is it the Ulster says no to change mindset?
The game was boring people to death and itself was dying a slow death.
Jarlath saw that and set up the FRC to do a major revamp which they did.

New rules are getting their year's trial and decisions to be made in October.
2 by the ways...
No further new rules proposed as of today, just some "sand box" things tried out.
The 2 Rugger codes are always tinkering with rules to try and make their games more appealing.
Soccer to a lesser extent.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Truthsayer

Is always people opposed to change .. exactly that.. A 'No' mentality. Believe it or not, I recall when rules were changed to allow frees and lineballs to be taken out of the hands and there was ones totally opposed.. Always 'no' men..

thebigfullforward

Quote from: JoG2 on August 13, 2025, 09:12:52 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 08:07:17 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 07:52:25 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 07:45:21 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 06:37:38 AMThankfully the rules were changed...  8) and the game saved.
And now they want to change the rules yet again. Just leave them be for 5 minutes
Got a major overhaul after the way it was so abused for years.. just a few wee final tweaks will be ok 👍
Yep. Can't wait for every team to be forced to play the same style of football. Will make it very entertaining

Like the last dozen years?
Don't think Mayo played the same type of football as Kerry or Dublin during mid 2000s but anyway

Cortoon

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 10:44:17 AMIs always people opposed to change .. exactly that.. A 'No' mentality. Believe it or not, I recall when rules were changed to allow frees and lineballs to be taken out of the hands and there was ones totally opposed.. Always 'no' men..
Usually the 'no' men are from Ulster!

EoinW

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 10:44:17 AMIs always people opposed to change .. exactly that.. A 'No' mentality. Believe it or not, I recall when rules were changed to allow frees and lineballs to be taken out of the hands and there was ones totally opposed.. Always 'no' men..

Of course there are...in every sport.  We're known as traditionalists.

However it isn't ALWAYS NO.  It varies as people's opinions vary.  You should never belittle other's opinions by generalizing.

This is the problem I have with some fans.  They treat traditional views with little respect.

johnnycool

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2025, 09:43:42 PMWatching highlights there. Galway forward pushes the Cork goalkeeper over as she going down to get the sliothar, obvious free, ref doesn't blow and the Galway lady scores a point. On commentary, they cant believe it's not a free and the goalkeeper looking at the ref with a WTF look.

I was down at the game and it was evident from the get go he was going to let quite a lot go and refereed it like a senior hurling game.

There was pulling, dragging, shoving, charging throughout the entire game and yes, much was made of the Cork goalie getting shoved in the back and the Galway girl scoring the point right after, but he was consistent in his non application of the rules throughout the day, so for Ger Manly to say the referee rode them is incorrect as there were several incidents that should have led to scoreable Galway frees in the second half alone and there was every bit as many ignored at the other end where the Cork forwards should have been awarded frees as well.

If anything Ger needs to look at his tactics as any short puckout to a Cork defender was then hit long and gobbled up by the Galway centre back who was sweeping up back there (or +1 in modern terms) and was giving Aoife Donnaghue a run for player of the game.

Red card was justified, was right out in front of me, swinging arm into the Galway girls face with the lineswoman standing 5 metres away.


Rossfan

Quote from: EoinW on August 13, 2025, 12:28:06 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 10:44:17 AMIs always people opposed to change .. exactly that.. A 'No' mentality. Believe it or not, I recall when rules were changed to allow frees and lineballs to be taken out of the hands and there was ones totally opposed.. Always 'no' men..

Of course there are...in every sport.  We're known as traditionalists.

However it isn't ALWAYS NO.  It varies as people's opinions vary.  You should never belittle other's opinions by generalizing.

This is the problem I have with some fans.  They treat traditional views with little respect.

Been a bad 140 years for the "tradionalists".
Point posts, goals outweighing any number of points, goal equalling 5 points, 21 aside, 17 aside,no carrying the ball, sideline throws, 16 players lining up for the throw  in, kissing the bishops ring,the ban.....all gone!
Adding nets, big square, small D, big D, allowing frees from the hand, women referees, red, yellow and black cards,.......
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

thebigfullforward

Quote from: EoinW on August 13, 2025, 12:28:06 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 10:44:17 AMIs always people opposed to change .. exactly that.. A 'No' mentality. Believe it or not, I recall when rules were changed to allow frees and lineballs to be taken out of the hands and there was ones totally opposed.. Always 'no' men..

Of course there are...in every sport.  We're known as traditionalists.

However it isn't ALWAYS NO.  It varies as people's opinions vary.  You should never belittle other's opinions by generalizing.

This is the problem I have with some fans.  They treat traditional views with little respect.
Someone told me I should stop watching the sport because I didn't agree with all the rule changes lol

JoG2

Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 10:51:24 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 13, 2025, 09:12:52 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 08:07:17 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 07:52:25 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 07:45:21 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 06:37:38 AMThankfully the rules were changed...  8) and the game saved.
And now they want to change the rules yet again. Just leave them be for 5 minutes
Got a major overhaul after the way it was so abused for years.. just a few wee final tweaks will be ok 👍
Yep. Can't wait for every team to be forced to play the same style of football. Will make it very entertaining

Like the last dozen years?
Don't think Mayo played the same type of football as Kerry or Dublin during mid 2000s but anyway

Mayo were an absolute joy to watch, definitely the outlier I think terms of how they went about a game..if they were more conservative, who knows how things would have panned out

But the other 100s of clubs and counties playing 1000s of games all the mirror image of each other. Skilled forwards toiling in their on 45, but try and get forward, and back, and forward.

Taking in a load of games this weekend, wouldn't have dreamt of doing that the last 10 years tbh.

thebigfullforward

Quote from: JoG2 on August 13, 2025, 01:59:13 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 10:51:24 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 13, 2025, 09:12:52 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 08:07:17 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 07:52:25 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 13, 2025, 07:45:21 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 06:37:38 AMThankfully the rules were changed...  8) and the game saved.
And now they want to change the rules yet again. Just leave them be for 5 minutes
Got a major overhaul after the way it was so abused for years.. just a few wee final tweaks will be ok 👍
Yep. Can't wait for every team to be forced to play the same style of football. Will make it very entertaining

Like the last dozen years?
Don't think Mayo played the same type of football as Kerry or Dublin during mid 2000s but anyway

Mayo were an absolute joy to watch, definitely the outlier I think terms of how they went about a game..if they were more conservative, who knows how things would have panned out

But the other 100s of clubs and counties playing 1000s of games all the mirror image of each other. Skilled forwards toiling in their on 45, but try and get forward, and back, and forward.

Taking in a load of games this weekend, wouldn't have dreamt of doing that the last 10 years tbh.

Meh I'm not overly bothered. I've been going to 2 or 3 club games every week for a while now and nothings going to hold me back from doing that. I found entertainment under the old rules and entertainment under the new ones. Nothings ever going to put me off going to games

From the Bunker

#3177
In the '90's Soccer went through a similar problem to what Gaelic has gone through the last two decades or so.
Their problem was the back-pass to the goalkeeper which proceed to a long ball being hoofed up to a big man in the forwards. Midfield build up play almost vanished.

Big Jack game embodied this. Horrible stuff to watch. Denmark winning the Euros was the straw that broke the camels back.

FIFA moved fairly quick when the Goalkeepers began to take the piss with time wasting and demanding passed from the opposition half of the pitch.

Sport is a results game - but this can only be part of the joy of sport. You have to be entertained. this is where attracting the neutral to watch a game he/she has only a small invested interest in.
The major coup is getting new followers. And the only way to get new followers is to have an attractive product. True you will get the die hard fan who will follow a successful team no matter how sh1te their brand of football is. Bandwagon fans are there for the big days but this will fade as the team loses it's form.


EoinW

Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2025, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: EoinW on August 13, 2025, 12:28:06 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 10:44:17 AMIs always people opposed to change .. exactly that.. A 'No' mentality. Believe it or not, I recall when rules were changed to allow frees and lineballs to be taken out of the hands and there was ones totally opposed.. Always 'no' men..

Of course there are...in every sport.  We're known as traditionalists.

However it isn't ALWAYS NO.  It varies as people's opinions vary.  You should never belittle other's opinions by generalizing.

This is the problem I have with some fans.  They treat traditional views with little respect.

Been a bad 140 years for the "tradionalists".
Point posts, goals outweighing any number of points, goal equalling 5 points, 21 aside, 17 aside,no carrying the ball, sideline throws, 16 players lining up for the throw  in, kissing the bishops ring,the ban.....all gone!
Adding nets, big square, small D, big D, allowing frees from the hand, women referees, red, yellow and black cards,.......

Yes indeed.  We've never recovered from that William Webb Ellis character.

Change happens, that's life.  Traditionalists try to moderate it, progressives less so.  We gradually lose every time but that's ok.  No reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Truthsayer

Quote from: EoinW on August 13, 2025, 12:28:06 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 13, 2025, 10:44:17 AMIs always people opposed to change .. exactly that.. A 'No' mentality. Believe it or not, I recall when rules were changed to allow frees and lineballs to be taken out of the hands and there was ones totally opposed.. Always 'no' men..

Of course there are...in every sport.  We're known as traditionalists.

However it isn't ALWAYS NO.  It varies as people's opinions vary.  You should never belittle other's opinions by generalizing.

This is the problem I have with some fans.  They treat traditional views with little respect.
What is a traditionalist? The 1970s Dublin team was like the Harlem Globetrotters... they were brilliant but a lot of it was basketball.
There has been catch and kick, the clinch kick (kind of a drop kick!), throwing the ball into the net (that was outlawed) and of course the worst, 15 behind the ball while the opposition played sideways and backwards giving the spectators a chance to have a good aul catch-up conversation.
Best era I seen was the noughties as they were called... many brilliant games involving Tyrone, Armagh, Kerry, Dublin, Mayo.. even Sligo!
Wat are traditionalists harking back to?