Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[The Trap]

Far from being the best championship ever I would say the all ireland series was one of the worst. Back to the 70s and 80s when Kerry and Dublin hammered teams.

The games were like going to a Premier League match when the craic was good for the day but the match was the worst part of it!

But I guess that is what they want to create, a Sky Sports suitable hyped up sport with modern pundits all following the party line.

Sure just make it 5 for a goal and turn the 2 pointers into 3 pointers.

[Saffron_sam20]

just keep the 3 up and no back to the keeper and wed be fine, the 2pt is brutal, look how many attempts are being tried. id much rather teams tried to work a goal. keep those 2 rules and were grand. that hooter has to go, was farcical yesterday. even in the Tailtenn cup final, limerick lad bout to go for a shot and the hooter goes, surely thats off putting like.

[DaleCooper]

A tactic Im sure many others thought of because it was so obvious was the 2 point attempt with a floating midfielder or tall guy inside the 21 anticipating a dropped shot. Paudie Clifford's 2 point attempt v early resulted in OBrien flicking it over.

Did Donegal once do this with Langan, a proven scorer?

Two pointers just encourage pile ons. Its positive but its not the final product

[AustinPowers]

How can there be a proper evaluation of the new rules with the non-stop media cheerleading shite? We don't need the Sky Sports hyperbole. Said it numerous times this year we'll have as many poor, decent and good matches no matter the rules and that has occurred imo.

As we've a junior team this year I've been watching them as well, not many high scoring games, most games would pass for the old rules.

Overall, enjoying the year but I'd like to see honest debate in the corridors of power and media.

Agree 100%.
We were told that the statistics around the benefits the new rules brought would be shared, I haven't seen any stats made public.
I'd love to see the average number of scores per game last year compared to this year - I'd say there's not much difference. 2 pointers skewed the score board.

I've seen plenty of games this year played sideways around the arc for long spells. That's better because?

Careful now , you can't criticise the  FRC conclave

[Cunny Funt]

Something has to done about the hooter too. That 90 second spell before half time yesterday where Paudie Clifford solo-ed the ball on the spot is not Gaelic football. I thought the rules were meant to negate the keep-ball possession shite?

Yes we all remember keepy uppies clip from some random club game last year given as example to what we wouldn't see with the new rules. That passage of play yesterday before half time was no different.

Agreed nauseating the way the new rules has been talked up and along with quality of championship. Eamon Sweeney I'd wonder did he get paid extra by HQ for that write up?

[statto]

Just to annoy some of the many negative Gaaboarders FRC looking again at the 4 point goal and no playing the ball back across the half way line.

Intercounty games are awful the last 5 minutes when they should be exciting as the teams main aim is ball retention and boot it out after the hooter rather than trying to get the insurance score. Not being allowed back into own half would improve that. 


Last few minutes of first half yesterdays game very flat also Kerry just waiting on the hooter to try and get another score. 

For inter county players/ top level club players there is less value in working a goal chance currently vs getting a two pointer free by taking a man on outside the dee.  Would agree with Saffron Sam. 

 

[Armagh18]

Something has to done about the hooter too. That 90 second spell before half time yesterday where Paudie Clifford solo-ed the ball on the spot is not Gaelic football. I thought the rules were meant to negate the keep-ball possession shite?

Yes we all remember keepy uppies clip from some random club game last year given as example to what we wouldn't see with the new rules. That passage of play yesterday before half time was no different.

Agreed nauseating the way the new rules has been talked up and along with quality of championship. Eamon Sweeney I'd wonder did he get paid extra by HQ for that write up?

While possession is so key you'll always get periods like that, Paudie isn't going to kick the ball away if there isn't a good option on, Donegal won't press out as it'll leave too much space inside and give a scoring opportunity away, not sure how you prevent that bar a shot clock, which probably isn't practical and if it was would just lead to teams retreating back like Donegal, forcing a pot shot, rinse and repeat.

[EoinW]

Just to annoy some of the many negative Gaaboarders FRC looking again at the 4 point goal and no playing the ball back across the half way line.

You're right!  That is annoying.

I'll take a dim view of the FRC if their reaction to all their massive rule changes is to spend the off season looking to make two MORE rule changes.

BTW I was not aware that fans' support for the traditional rules was negative.  In the negative contest, the whiners, talking about how brutal the game was prior to this year, came first.

[NAG1]

Did anyone notice JG's management speak word salad in the interview before the game?

Genuinely don't think he could have squeezed any more management speak buzz phrases if he tried 

[Stickittotheman]

The new rules have been very good for the most part. Still unsure on the two pointer but the 3 up, no passing back to the keeper, the 1 on 1 for throw in, solo and go and the punishment for lack of discipline. All have been positive. There wasn't any lip to the referee yesterday nor was there holding onto the ball. It is a far better spectacle than the drivel we have been watching thr last few years.

Not sure if any further changes are needed.

[Rossfan]

People espousing the sh1te that was gaelic football the last few years!!!

[befair]

The new rules have in general been very positive, esp at club level, but ther are a few issues. The lack of goals is a problem; why bust a gut when a two pointer is almost as beneficial, so increasing the goal to 4 pts would be worth considering. Also the effect of wind advantage has been greatly increased by the 2 pointers, so some way of curtailing the 2 pters might be considered, maybe pushing out the line to e.g 50 meters, so it would reguire a massive boot.
I'd agree the the knock-out games, eagerly anticipated, have been disappointing, v few close contests, so the new rules seem to exaggerate the differences between teams. Contrast this with soccer, where the underdog might be outplayed, but can still hang in and get a result (England vs Spain) was a prime example lst night)

[The Trap]

People espousing the shite that was gaelic basketball this year because they are so brainwashed by the media.

[Rossfan]

Poor and silly response.
Never saw anone kicking 40 metre
scores in basketball.
People espoused the "FRC football" because of what they saw with their own eyes.

[GTP]

People espousing the sh1te that was gaelic football the last few years!!!

Very few (if any) posters have been saying the rules have not made the game better. But criticism of any change seems to be forbidden. Even the FRC has admitted throughout the year that it was wrong by changing rules as the league and All-Ireland progressed. This version of Gaelic Football may be better but is it the best version the game can be? I would have my doubts.
A 4-point goal would be an abomination, it is a solution to a problem created by the FRC by introducing a 2-point option. Completely altering the scoring (again) will have an affect well beyond a sandbox game between two Dublin club sides who will probably go for 4-point goals as it is all a bit of craic. Do they even consider how these changes translate to underage football and the club game?