Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[DaleCooper]

Instead of a black card a penalty for anyone being pulled down inside the arc/45?

Further out a 45 metre kick in line with where foul occurred?

[trileacman]

I think the 40m advancement should only stay for deliberately slowing the game down after frees (booting the ball away, stopping quick frees). There was loads of frustration directed at the Joe McQuillan in the Tyrone/Kerry game but not once did he advance the ball 40m. that's a completely different interpretation from what was being implemented early in the championship. The GAA want to increase attendances but yet there's really nothing more frustrating and off-putting to spectators than inconsistency.

[Milltown Row2]

I think the 40m advancement should only stay for deliberately slowing the game down after frees (booting the ball away, stopping quick frees). There was loads of frustration directed at the Joe McQuillan in the Tyrone/Kerry game but not once did he advance the ball 40m. that's a completely different interpretation from what was being implemented early in the championship. The GAA want to increase attendances but yet there's really nothing more frustrating and off-putting to spectators than inconsistency.

I didn't hear what was said to Joe? Was it picked up by the tv? I only watched on BBC I player

[statto]

I always thought a 40m arc for a point is too easy for big lads to get the distance. Score it from beyond the 45, make a 2pters a special score. N Grimley had a great long ranger in the final last yr, just worth a point, R O'Neill and R Beggan had 2 great 2 pters this year.memorable scores.Do away with a 2pter free, no benefit when county keepers hitting ball 60m in games. Maybe it make a goal actual value again. I also allow players inside their arc for kickouts. There no skill in a hit and hope to midfield and not enough room to go short on kickouts. You can dominate a game and get pinned in and beat in the last 10mins of a game

One benefit of the 2 pointer is it keeps an element of jeopardy alive for longer if a team is behind and stops a team with a lead going 100% defensive to see out a game. If you've dominated a game but couldn't see it out then that's just tough. For all the talk of how easy they are to score I reckon two pointers are rarer than they should be. As a neutral spectator to most championship games - at least the latter stages - I think it is definitely more watchable this year. The dissent punishment has certainly cleared a lot of the sh1te out of the game.

The 3 up is meant to prevent teams going 100% defensive? I think the two pointer is here to stay,(wouldn't be a fan of the two pointer) I think 4 points for a goal could certainly prevent the handballing around the arc and get more direct kicking into the inside forward line which I believe was the original intention of the FRC. 

[Rossfan]

They dropped the 4 point goal very early.
When is the Special Congress?
Hopefully late enough to see how the rules work in the Club knock out stages.

[Truthsayer]

Query: can a free be given against a substitute?
I wasn't there so am open to correction. A club game in Tyrone last night, I'm told a team was a point behind and went to take a free way out field. A sub kicked a ball onto the field to delay things. Ref let it go and it happened a second time and ref moved the free way up in front of opponents goals. Team then elected to bring it out for a two-pointer, scored duly winning by 1 point.
Sounds bizarre but them's the facts I'm told.

[thewobbler]

Query: can a free be given against a substitute?
I wasn't there so am open to correction. A club game in Tyrone last night, I'm told a team was a point behind and went to take a free way out field. A sub kicked a ball onto the field to delay things. Ref let it go and it happened a second time and ref moved the free way up in front of opponents goals. Team then elected to bring it out for a two-pointer, scored duly winning by 1 point.
Sounds bizarre but them's the facts I'm told.

Dissent rules apply to managers and as such I'd assume to everyone on the line.

Sounds like good refereeing to be fair. Too was much tinpiggery in football.

[marty34]

Query: can a free be given against a substitute?
I wasn't there so am open to correction. A club game in Tyrone last night, I'm told a team was a point behind and went to take a free way out field. A sub kicked a ball onto the field to delay things. Ref let it go and it happened a second time and ref moved the free way up in front of opponents goals. Team then elected to bring it out for a two-pointer, scored duly winning by 1 point.
Sounds bizarre but them's the facts I'm told.

I think he can move it forward if coach/bench slabbers???

So this is maybe the same?

But in fairness, act the clown once is ok, but deserves that for the second time in my opinion.

[Truthsayer]

Agreed. Sub (if was sub) shouldn't have been acting the maggot.

[Milltown Row2]

Anyone on the line that's creating what the ref deems dissent will incur the same as a player. The manager wouldn't be happy

[AustinPowers]

Anyone on the line that's creating what the ref deems dissent will incur the same as a player. The manager wouldn't be happy

What if  two teammates were  arguing/fighting  on the bench? Or a sub doing similar with  his manager on the sideline? 

Is that  considered dissent?

[Milltown Row2]

Anyone on the line that's creating what the ref deems dissent will incur the same as a player. The manager wouldn't be happy

What if  two teammates were  arguing/fighting  on the bench? Or a sub doing similar with  his manager on the sideline? 

Is that  considered dissent?

If two players are fighting that's a red card, be they from the same team or not, if they are named subs same thing. Dissent in this case was trying to slow the game down by throwing a ball on, ref was nice and warned them, sun was stupid and did it again!

If they were hurling abuse at the ref same thing, play stopped and ball moved forward, the ref though has to name and yellow card sideline officials or subs..

[Orior]

I hope the umpires in next week's football final are coached in the following:

1) if the ball goes over the sideline official can use his arm and flag to point in the direction of the sideline kick
2) if a ball goes wide, then hold your arms out horizontal on either side of your torso. Don't point your hands up in the air and then slowly bring them down
3) Care should be taken that umpires know what a square looks like so that in the event of a hawkeye intervention they can trace a square shape with their fore fingers.

Thanks in advance,
Orior

[Blowitupref]

From the Irish Examiner

the Football Review Committee are set to host another series of sandbox games as they move towards a final report on the new Gaelic football rules. The first game is scheduled to take place in Dublin this weekend with a few adjustments to existing enhancements expected to be trialled.

Special Congress will take place in October to agree on the final amendments.

[Rossfan]

I'd hope they're minor tweaks as won't anything passed in October be in for 5 years?
Last thing you'd want is something untrialled in the real world becoming a permanent rule.