Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

Started by BennyCake, September 09, 2014, 12:47:26 PM

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Rossfan

Are ye proposing they can only play the ball in their own big square?, or inside the 20?
Or Square and penalty arc?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Stall the Bailer

Quote from: on the sideline on February 14, 2025, 05:35:25 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on February 14, 2025, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on February 14, 2025, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on February 14, 2025, 02:20:48 PMThe 4m from the foul occurred, is for examples like when a player is fouled resulting in him falling a few meters from the foul due to his momentum. He doesn't have to go back to the fouled spot and then take the tap and go. It does not mean I run 4m then solo and go and then go for another 4m


But as with my original post, it's being refereed in a different way by different refs, or being explained differently by them at least.

For purposes of clarity imo the solo and go element should be indicated by a player taking the solo on his first/second step after free is awarded, thus indicating that he is taking the 'solo and go.' He should then have 4m free from tackle at this point. Not at least 8 either side of the solo. This is one of the few rules I'm been in favour of since the proposals.  Just think it makes it cleaner and more straightforward.


Everyone is still getting up to speed with the new rules, plenty of footballers and refs won't have played/reffed with them yet. It is going to take time for everyone to get an reasonable understanding, sorry to say but perfection is not possible. I agree with your interpretation but it will take time and there will be mistakes.

I get that, but when there's a 50m penalty  for breaking the rule then it's hugely important that it is going to be refereed the same by all referees.
The defending team just needs to ensure they don't tackle for 4m after the player has taken the solo.

Milltown Row2

Saying that it's hugely important that it is going to be refereed the same by all referees is an understatement

But when has anyone seen a game refereed the same even by the same ref the next game? Never mind all the ref's doing it the same!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Wildweasel74

But if he runs 4m then takes his solo,  u can't tackle for another 4m, his that work? Man just got a 8m advantage

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 14, 2025, 08:37:34 PMBut if he runs 4m then takes his solo,  u can't tackle for another 4m, his that work? Man just got a 8m advantage

No, 4 meters tackle .. once you don't blow for that they'll learn
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

on the sideline

#2015
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2025, 08:44:58 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 14, 2025, 08:37:34 PMBut if he runs 4m then takes his solo,  u can't tackle for another 4m, his that work? Man just got a 8m advantage

No, 4 meters tackle .. once you don't blow for that they'll learn

By that logic you can tackle before he solos (which I'm certain you can't?!). See what I mean about the uncertainty. Then bang 50m penalty.

Get what you mean about different refs and consistency (& even the same one game to game), but surely this should be crystal clear and universal in its ruling, with no room for ambiguity. With this one it should be easy enough.

But I guess we can say the same for the advantage rules eh?


Milltown Row2

Quote from: on the sideline on February 14, 2025, 09:02:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2025, 08:44:58 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 14, 2025, 08:37:34 PMBut if he runs 4m then takes his solo,  u can't tackle for another 4m, his that work? Man just got a 8m advantage

No, 4 meters tackle .. once you don't blow for that they'll learn

By that logic you can tackle before he solos (which I'm certain you can't?!). See what I mean about the uncertainty. Then bang 50m penalty.

Get what you mean about different refs and consistency (& even the same one game to game), but surely this should be crystal clear and universal in its ruling, with no room for ambiguity. With this one it should be easy enough.

But I guess we can say the same for the advantage rules eh?



It's on the player to SOLO and go, not go and solo, that's how I'll approach it.

I'm out tomorrow, challenge game, should be interesting to see how players are adapting to the rules

Also if the pitch isn't properly lined I'll not be following the 40meter rule.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Sportacus

Quote from: Rossfan on February 14, 2025, 06:37:10 PMAre ye proposing they can only play the ball in their own big square?, or inside the 20?
Or Square and penalty arc?
Well for talk sake, could they be allowed to play the ball inside the 20, but not allowed to catch it outside the 20.  That would keep them mostly at home, which would be my preference. We've become obsessed with goalkeepers, to the detriment in my opinion.  As I said, they have a great goalkeeping skill set, and should stick to that.

Blowitupref

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Truthsayer

Anyone who thinks the new rules haven't helped the game needs their head felt. Helped it... saved it!

on the sideline

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 15, 2025, 06:35:50 PMAnyone who thinks the new rules haven't helped the game needs their head felt. Helped it... saved it!

Some I didn't originally like are growing on me. But apart from handing the ball back after a foul the main one I really dont like is the 40m kickout arc.

As it sits, the kickout rule is more like a punishment for the team taking it. Your own restart is now a lottery. You should be able to use all space available on the pitch on your kickout, not have it restricted to try to help the opponent.

The rule isn't needed now either - especially now the goalkeeper is no longer an option for an easy out, short kickouts can be pressed. 

So teams can press the shorts & still force the long kickout - giving the best of both worlds & variation. Not just hit it long & see what happens.


Truthsayer

Quote from: on the sideline on February 15, 2025, 08:52:54 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 15, 2025, 06:35:50 PMAnyone who thinks the new rules haven't helped the game needs their head felt. Helped it... saved it!

Some I didn't originally like are growing on me. But apart from handing the ball back after a foul the main one I really dont like is the 40m kickout arc.

As it sits, the kickout rule is more like a punishment for the team taking it. Your own restart is now a lottery. You should be able to use all space available on the pitch on your kickout, not have it restricted to try to help the opponent.

The rule isn't needed now either - especially now the goalkeeper is no longer an option for an easy out, short kickouts can be pressed. 

So teams can press the shorts & still force the long kickout - giving the best of both worlds & variation. Not just hit it long & see what happens.


I enjoy the long ball out the field contest and see who can win it...
I'm loving these rules. Two great games today. The game was dying...

Brendan

The game was dying but the attendances still look pretty pathetic despite the lure of the new rules, a really competitive league where anyone could beat anyone and there was no Pre season competitions. This is the 2nd most important competition nationally

Truthsayer

Quote from: Brendan on February 15, 2025, 09:24:33 PMThe game was dying but the attendances still look pretty pathetic despite the lure of the new rules, a really competitive league where anyone could beat anyone and there was no Pre season competitions. This is the 2nd most important competition nationally
Seemed to good crowds... its February night!

Brendan

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 15, 2025, 09:27:19 PM
Quote from: Brendan on February 15, 2025, 09:24:33 PMThe game was dying but the attendances still look pretty pathetic despite the lure of the new rules, a really competitive league where anyone could beat anyone and there was no Pre season competitions. This is the 2nd most important competition nationally
Seemed to good crowds... its February night!

Celtic park wouldn't even be half full for the 2 games I've been at, Salthill and Castlebar are always half empty. Outside of Armagh as all ireland champions and Kerry home games I'd be concerned