Donegal (2011-2014) v Tyrone (2003-2008) v Armagh (1999-2006)

[J OGorman]

Surely Mc Geeney Mc Grane Canavan Cavanagh Mc Conville Mc Guigan Mc Menamin The Mc Entees Mulligan Dooher Mc Donnell all would make that current Donegal team an im sure I have left out plenty others

Canavan, McMenamin , Mulligan and Dooher are not up to it physically and would be thrown around like rag dolls in any Donegal training session. McConville and McDonnell did not produce the goods to get that second AI so their temperament is very questionable. Murphy and McFadden are much more consistent.

McGeeney makes atrocious acceptance speeches and should be ruled out on that basis alone.

I've read some balls on this board, but this comes pretty close to eclipsing all of it !

[Mike Sheehy]

Surely Mc Geeney Mc Grane Canavan Cavanagh Mc Conville Mc Guigan Mc Menamin The Mc Entees Mulligan Dooher Mc Donnell all would make that current Donegal team an im sure I have left out plenty others

Canavan, McMenamin , Mulligan and Dooher are not up to it physically and would be thrown around like rag dolls in any Donegal training session. McConville and McDonnell did not produce the goods to get that second AI so their temperament is very questionable. Murphy and McFadden are much more consistent.

McGeeney makes atrocious acceptance speeches and should be ruled out on that basis alone.

I've read some balls on this board, but this comes pretty close to eclipsing all of it !

Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh on McGeeney alright. He has become more articulate since joining the Kingdom family.

[seafoid]

I bet you'd swap back to back qfs for a 2005 Sam.

Not a hope. Anyone can sneak an AI, even Galway. Winning 2 in a row is where it is at.

I thought 5 in a row was the thing for the aristos


http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-34940907.html
The winning team always came in before they went back to their hotel. They loved it. Because GAA players were never on the TV in those days, not like now. So they were all delighted to come in so that their mammies would see them with their medal on the telly. But when Offaly came in the night of the '82 final, we had a problem. Maurice Reidy had put together a package of clips from Kerry's four-in-a-row in preparation for them making it five-in-a-row. But they didn't obviously.
"Maurice was heartbroken, first of all because he was a good Castleisland man and secondly because the bloody thing wouldn't be shown. They were great about it though. Eugene McGee and Richie Connor were fantastic. Richie said, 'Sure go on and show the Kerry five-in-a-row thing, we'd love to see it.' When it went out then, everybody loved it. It kind of didn't matter that Kerry hadn't won."


Dhera it didn't matter.

[Mike Sheehy]

Here is some Aristo v wannabee aristo action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFD9hPu2ntM

[armaghniac]

McConville and McDonnell did not produce the goods to get that second AI so their temperament is very questionable. Murphy and McFadden are much more consistent.

McFadden is about as consistent as the Donegal weather. McConville of course has twice won two in a row club AIs, something no Kerryman can say. And Armagh played in 2 successive AI finals, something Donegal may never do.

[From the Bunker]

Kerry has a real inferiority complex with Ulster Football. Their recent clashes with Ulster teams does not bode well!

[Mike Sheehy]

Kerry has a real inferiority complex with Ulster Football. Their recent clashes with Ulster teams does not bode well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7IVAH1JauE

http://www.amazon.com/House-Pain-Through-Rooms-Football/dp/1845962974

[Mike Sheehy]

McConville and McDonnell did not produce the goods to get that second AI so their temperament is very questionable. Murphy and McFadden are much more consistent.

McFadden is about as consistent as the Donegal weather. McConville of course has twice won two in a row club AIs, something no Kerryman can say. And Armagh played in 2 successive AI finals, something Donegal may never do.

Nothing in defence of McDonnell ...I hope he's not watching   

[T Fearon]

Mike only for Gormley's fortuitous block in 2003, Mc Donnell would have produced the goods for his second medal. Difference between success and failure and all that.

[JP]

Brainless footballers are hard to train though and they can't work out how to win games against well organised teams themselves.

Brainless ? what brains do you need to run up and down the field in a pack. That's basically all Tyrone did. Face it, you just went negative to win and more power to ye. No-one outside Tyrone will ever hold ye in much regard though.

Ye'll never produce a Maurice Fitzgerald or a Colm Cooper. That is more important to us than winning every all-Ireland. Style and class are more important than adding to our total..sure we already have 36 of them.

So on one hand you are saying its all about producing stylish and classy players, but also dismissing the likes of Canavan and Dooher for not being up to it physically. You talk some amount of sh**te. I've read through these posts and you haven't come close yet to making any sense.

[BennyHarp]

Brainless footballers are hard to train though and they can't work out how to win games against well organised teams themselves.

Brainless ? what brains do you need to run up and down the field in a pack. That's basically all Tyrone did. Face it, you just went negative to win and more power to ye. No-one outside Tyrone will ever hold ye in much regard though.

Ye'll never produce a Maurice Fitzgerald or a Colm Cooper. That is more important to us than winning every all-Ireland. Style and class are more important than adding to our total..sure we already have 36 of them.

It takes footballing brains to implement tactics and work out how to win matches even if things are going against you. If your telling me it took Kerry well over 5 years to work out how to play against the Tyrone "tactics", and with The Kingdom, in your view, having some of the most talented players ever to grace the game, then the only possible conclusion you are making is that your team where full of brainless footballers who couldn't work out how to win games when faced with a particular style of play. Plus, Tyrone and Armagh physically bullied the Kerry teams with their intensity in the tackle during those years, so once again by criticizing Tyrone players physical strength you are inadvertently confirming the weaknesses of the Kerry players of that era. Finally, any fair minded Kerry supporter I've spoken to have nothing but the utmost respect for Peter Canavan, your comments show that the brainlessness that impeded your players is coming through in your own posts.

You really aren't painting a good picture of that Kerry team of 2004-2009, Mike. In your assertions throughout this thread you have implied that they are not as good as the current Dublin team, would not physically match the current Donegal team and weren't intelligent enough to work out how to beat the tactics employed by Tyrone. And this was supposed to be the team of the decade?

[Rodman]

Brainless footballers are hard to train though and they can't work out how to win games against well organised teams themselves.

Brainless ? what brains do you need to run up and down the field in a pack. That's basically all Tyrone did. Face it, you just went negative to win and more power to ye. No-one outside Tyrone will ever hold ye in much regard though.

Ye'll never produce a Maurice Fitzgerald or a Colm Cooper. That is more important to us than winning every all-Ireland. Style and class are more important than adding to our total..sure we already have 36 of them.

Give me Peter Canavan any day of the week over these 2.  You really haven't got over those 3 defeats yet.....hopefully some day you can let go.

[From the Bunker]

Brainless footballers are hard to train though and they can't work out how to win games against well organised teams themselves.

Brainless ? what brains do you need to run up and down the field in a pack. That's basically all Tyrone did. Face it, you just went negative to win and more power to ye. No-one outside Tyrone will ever hold ye in much regard though.

Ye'll never produce a Maurice Fitzgerald or a Colm Cooper. That is more important to us than winning every all-Ireland. Style and class are more important than adding to our total..sure we already have 36 of them.

Give me Peter Canavan any day of the week over these 2.  You really haven't got over those 3 defeats yet.....hopefully some day you can let go.

Some Kerry people think that beating ye at home in a Mickey mouse back door game made up for those defeats. 

[Mike Sheehy]

Brainless footballers are hard to train though and they can't work out how to win games against well organised teams themselves.

Brainless ? what brains do you need to run up and down the field in a pack. That's basically all Tyrone did. Face it, you just went negative to win and more power to ye. No-one outside Tyrone will ever hold ye in much regard though.

Ye'll never produce a Maurice Fitzgerald or a Colm Cooper. That is more important to us than winning every all-Ireland. Style and class are more important than adding to our total..sure we already have 36 of them.

Give me Peter Canavan any day of the week over these 2.  You really haven't got over those 3 defeats yet.....hopefully some day you can let go.

Some Kerry people think that beating ye at home in a Mickey mouse back door game made up for those defeats. 

Sure, what are Mayo good for only winning the Mickey mouse games. It's not like they ever do the job when it matters.

You are obviously still sore about last weekend   

[manfromdelmonte]

The black card has changed the landscape this year.
Cynical fouling is way down. But other tricks are way up.

Games are definitely refereed differently than 10 years ago