Down Club Hurling & Football

[Lloyd p]

What's happening with the bkinlar project? Down miles behind other counties in ulster facilities wise.

[johnnycool]

What's happening with the bkinlar project? Down miles behind other counties in ulster facilities wise.

Applying for grants left, right and centre.

Got knocked back there 6 months or so ago for some big grant.

[johnnycool]

Tough game for the hurlers tomorrow to start their league campaign.

Portlaoise diffcult place to go to, even for Division One sides like Waterford and Dublin, as we well found out last year in the McDonagh Cup.

Down have a real chance of getting to Division One this year, but have to play better than they did last year.

Some serious hurlers in Laois, but they really don't look like the same team that they were 3-5 years ago. Definitely come back down closer to the level of us/Kerry.


Down missing some serious players. No Sheehan. No Doran. No McCusker. Good to see a few lads back (Donal Hughes should be a great addition all being well, the Sands, too), and plenty of good fellas to make the break through yet.

Hopefully we can stay neck and neck with Laois for most of the game at the very least. Would be good to know we're there or there abouts, and would be terrible to start the year with our backs against the wall.

I think it's well worth remembering, I think last year, the consensus was that it was a very poor year, despite us retaining Division 2A status for the third year in a row. For a long time, we couldn't get out of 2B. That surely says something for the progress of our hurlers.

Hopefully it's onward and upwards 

I wasn't at the game but was speaking to a few lads who were at it last night and by all accounts we were well in the game with 10 minutes to go with the scoreline being level pegging then the wheels came off with a few injuries to key players, Eoghan Sands and Turpin, both with hand injuries (and will miss the Kerry game) as well as Matt Conlon going off with a cut to the head. Replaces just a bit of that level.
It wasn't helped by our clubman getting a straight red for one of his trademark stupid tackles with no need for it.

Kerry game is a must win now with how the other results going against us, especially with Meath picking up an unexpected win against Kildare.

Laois and Carlow expected to top the group, so it's a dog fight between the other 4 to avoid relegation.

[Truth hurts]

I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

[5times5times]

I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

Why would they worry/care about other codes??

[manwithnoplan]

I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

Did the county board consult with the LGFA prior to announcing the dates for the ACFL/ACHL and championships this year?

[thewobbler]

I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

Did the county board consult with the LGFA prior to announcing the dates for the ACFL/ACHL and championships this year?

Open communications should always be practiced.

But let's be realistic here. One association owns about 95% of Gaelic Games fields in Down. The other owns 0%.

There is a remarkably different onus on the group with 0% to consult with others before publishing any fixtures.

To think otherwise is wanton and unhelpful mucksavagery.

[manwithnoplan]

I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

Did the county board consult with the LGFA prior to announcing the dates for the ACFL/ACHL and championships this year?

Open communications should always be practiced.

But let's be realistic here. One association owns about 95% of Gaelic Games fields in Down. The other owns 0%.

There is a remarkably different onus on the group with 0% to consult with others before publishing any fixtures.

To think otherwise is wanton and unhelpful mucksavagery.

Quite the hyperbole there. Hopefully the LGFA in future remember to get the go ahead from the county board before organising their own games, can't be allowed to potentially impact the attendances and gate receipts of the vastly more important men's games.

[Truth hurts]

That attitude will get you a job on the ladies' county executive. There are dual players, pitch issues, and referees to sort. It's very easy to talk. Very easy. Some people enjoy getting into arguments.

[thewobbler]

I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

Did the county board consult with the LGFA prior to announcing the dates for the ACFL/ACHL and championships this year?

Open communications should always be practiced.

But let's be realistic here. One association owns about 95% of Gaelic Games fields in Down. The other owns 0%.

There is a remarkably different onus on the group with 0% to consult with others before publishing any fixtures.

To think otherwise is wanton and unhelpful mucksavagery.

Quite the hyperbole there. Hopefully the LGFA in future remember to get the go ahead from the county board before organising their own games, can't be allowed to potentially impact the attendances and gate receipts of the vastly more important men's games.

The bit about LGFA not owning any facilities to host their games, it just seems to fly over your head.

[manwithnoplan]

I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

Did the county board consult with the LGFA prior to announcing the dates for the ACFL/ACHL and championships this year?

Open communications should always be practiced.

But let's be realistic here. One association owns about 95% of Gaelic Games fields in Down. The other owns 0%.

There is a remarkably different onus on the group with 0% to consult with others before publishing any fixtures.

To think otherwise is wanton and unhelpful mucksavagery.

Quite the hyperbole there. Hopefully the LGFA in future remember to get the go ahead from the county board before organising their own games, can't be allowed to potentially impact the attendances and gate receipts of the vastly more important men's games.

The bit about LGFA not owning any facilities to host their games, it just seems to fly over your head.

The bit about clubs working together internally to develop plans on use of their facilities seems to fly over your head. Perhaps your club is divided in this regard.

[Truth hurts]

I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

Did the county board consult with the LGFA prior to announcing the dates for the ACFL/ACHL and championships this year?

Open communications should always be practiced.

But let's be realistic here. One association owns about 95% of Gaelic Games fields in Down. The other owns 0%.

There is a remarkably different onus on the group with 0% to consult with others before publishing any fixtures.

To think otherwise is wanton and unhelpful mucksavagery.

Quite the hyperbole there. Hopefully the LGFA in future remember to get the go ahead from the county board before organising their own games, can't be allowed to potentially impact the attendances and gate receipts of the vastly more important men's games.

The bit about LGFA not owning any facilities to host their games, it just seems to fly over your head.

The bit about clubs working together internally to develop plans on use of their facilities seems to fly over your head. Perhaps your club is divided in this regard.

Equal time on pitches is something I support wholeheartedly, but the Ladies Association's attitude towards other codes is shocking. It's even worse than Hurling snobs.

[thewobbler]

I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

Did the county board consult with the LGFA prior to announcing the dates for the ACFL/ACHL and championships this year?

Open communications should always be practiced.

But let's be realistic here. One association owns about 95% of Gaelic Games fields in Down. The other owns 0%.

There is a remarkably different onus on the group with 0% to consult with others before publishing any fixtures.

To think otherwise is wanton and unhelpful mucksavagery.

Quite the hyperbole there. Hopefully the LGFA in future remember to get the go ahead from the county board before organising their own games, can't be allowed to potentially impact the attendances and gate receipts of the vastly more important men's games.

The bit about LGFA not owning any facilities to host their games, it just seems to fly over your head.

The bit about clubs working together internally to develop plans on use of their facilities seems to fly over your head. Perhaps your club is divided in this regard.

No it's not divided at all.

The thing is.

When a child grows into an an adult, and wishes to continue living under their parents' roof, then it's in everyone's interests to communicate properly about needs and give each other enough room to be happy.

But if the child isn't interested in that conversation, and instead thinks its acceptable to invite  a pile of friends around to takeover the shared spaces on a regular basis, which impacts on their parent's normal habits, then things aren't going to work out. They just aren't.

And if a parent was to ask them to be more reasonable, that does not make the parent in the wrong. It's their house. They paid for it, pay for the bills, and it was built to meet their needs.

LGFA are the child in this parable, in case you're unsure.

[manwithnoplan]

I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

Did the county board consult with the LGFA prior to announcing the dates for the ACFL/ACHL and championships this year?

Open communications should always be practiced.

But let's be realistic here. One association owns about 95% of Gaelic Games fields in Down. The other owns 0%.

There is a remarkably different onus on the group with 0% to consult with others before publishing any fixtures.

To think otherwise is wanton and unhelpful mucksavagery.

Quite the hyperbole there. Hopefully the LGFA in future remember to get the go ahead from the county board before organising their own games, can't be allowed to potentially impact the attendances and gate receipts of the vastly more important men's games.

The bit about LGFA not owning any facilities to host their games, it just seems to fly over your head.

The bit about clubs working together internally to develop plans on use of their facilities seems to fly over your head. Perhaps your club is divided in this regard.

No it's not divided at all.

The thing is.

When a child grows into an an adult, and wishes to continue living under their parents' roof, then it's in everyone's interests to communicate properly about needs and give each other enough room to be happy.

But if the child isn't interested in that conversation, and instead thinks its acceptable to invite  a pile of friends around to takeover the shared spaces on a regular basis, which impacts on their parent's normal habits, then things aren't going to work out. They just aren't.

And if a parent was to ask them to be more reasonable, that does not make the parent in the wrong. It's their house. They paid for it, pay for the bills, and it was built to meet their needs.

LGFA are the child in this parable, in case you're unsure.

A fantastic parable there, a very eloquent way to display your disdain for the women's game. It's brilliant to suggest that none of the women currently of the LGFA have ever contributed to their clubs before. Spectacular effort, very well done.

[thewobbler]

Disdain?

Couldn't be further from the truth. I've nothing but pride in my club mates who have developed an lGFA club in Ballyholland over the past two years. My daughters are both playing and loving it, and I really enjoy watching the sport.

But the reality is that until our club expands its facilities, then the onus has to be on LGFA to slot in and the GAA club to accommodate wherever possible. Not the other way around. This is just a blunt reality. Ignore these things if you want, but doing so won't help anyone.