Down Club Hurling & Football

[Cuan12]

The core problem is accountability, these county coaches need to be aware of what is required of them and who they are accountable to.Coaches who fail to turn up to work or don't meet the required standard need replacing with people who will meet the required standards but the coaches need support also from the clubs, the schools and the county executive.
Time will tell if the posts on this forum have any effect or the survey recently undertaken prompts the county executive taking the necessary action.

[Johnnysboys]

Accountability is right. But how can they be held accountable? Every time our primary school phones the county offices to complain of another no show - no one picks up nor responds. It's a real jobs for the boys this role. Organising a wee blitz here n there doesn't cut it any longer. Lads going to Canal Court to the pool and sauna while they are supposed to be in a primary school stinks. And I agree - they get paid by the GAA to do this job and are then running around in the evenings with clubs getting paid as well - it's an absolute disgrace. More energy put into their evening roles than their daily roles.

[Hard2Listen2]

I have to be honest lads. That's not my experience of the schools coaches.
When they've coached my kids they have come home buzzing. The get a lot from the county board & Ulster GAA coaches.
The get outdoor exercise, basic skills, & have fun with their friends.
I don't see a downside to it.

As far as I know the county contact every primary school & offer the coaches services. It's up to the school whether or not they accept this.

A lot of the funding (definitely for the Ulster coaches) comes from government in a scheme with IFA so they have to be in primary schools. The county can't just decide where to send them.

[Truth hurts]

Accountability is right. But how can they be held accountable? Every time our primary school phones the county offices to complain of another no show - no one picks up nor responds. It's a real jobs for the boys this role. Organising a wee blitz here n there doesn't cut it any longer. Lads going to Canal Court to the pool and sauna while they are supposed to be in a primary school stinks. And I agree - they get paid by the GAA to do this job and are then running around in the evenings with clubs getting paid as well - it's an absolute disgrace. More energy put into their evening roles than their daily roles.

That is a serious accusation Johnnysboys. What primary school are you talking about as I am sure the county office could verify that if you rang. Are you saying boys do not turn for coaching in your school as I have only have heard positive news about school coaches. Sean og wants the coaches into secondary schools but schools do not want help yet they have so called coaches who fail to coach the kids yet are willing to coach in evening roles at clubs.  These people probably promise the world at interviews saying they will coach the kids but do nothing.

[Brick Tamlin]

Bit of a nonsense witch hunt going on here with a few fellas with personal axes to grind.

[delgany]

I have to be honest lads. That's not my experience of the schools coaches.
When they've coached my kids they have come home buzzing. The get a lot from the county board & Ulster GAA coaches.
The get outdoor exercise, basic skills, & have fun with their friends.
I don't see a downside to it.

As far as I know the county contact every primary school & offer the coaches services. It's up to the school whether or not they accept this.

A lot of the funding (definitely for the Ulster coaches) comes from government in a scheme with IFA so they have to be in primary schools. The county can't just decide where to send them.

Im not sure that the coaches are fairly distributed and some parts get more coaching than others. I personally contacted the Co.Office in March about the coaching progamme and am still waiting a reply. The Co. Sec visited  before Covid , to ask how Co. could support schools, nothing  came off it, no feedback..consultation -  tickbox job....have had +ve experiences of coaches but need fair and equitable access , many use it as a platform to  get into teacher training ( which is great ) but Down GAA need to wake up !

[Hard2Listen2]

I have to be honest lads. That's not my experience of the schools coaches.
When they've coached my kids they have come home buzzing. The get a lot from the county board & Ulster GAA coaches.
The get outdoor exercise, basic skills, & have fun with their friends.
I don't see a downside to it.

As far as I know the county contact every primary school & offer the coaches services. It's up to the school whether or not they accept this.

A lot of the funding (definitely for the Ulster coaches) comes from government in a scheme with IFA so they have to be in primary schools. The county can't just decide where to send them.

Im not sure that the coaches are fairly distributed and some parts get more coaching than others. I personally contacted the Co.Office in February about the coaching progamme and am still waiting a reply. The Co. Sec visited  before Covid , to ask how Co. could support schools, nothing  came off it, no feedback..consultation -  tickbox job....have had +ve experiences of coaches but need fair and equitable access , many use it as a platform to  get into teacher training ( which is great ) but Down GAA need to wake up !

Your profile says you're from Antrim?
Down GAA don't coach in Antrim schools or have you moved away from the dark side?

[supersub]

Accountability is right. But how can they be held accountable? Every time our primary school phones the county offices to complain of another no show - no one picks up nor responds. It's a real jobs for the boys this role. Organising a wee blitz here n there doesn't cut it any longer. Lads going to Canal Court to the pool and sauna while they are supposed to be in a primary school stinks. And I agree - they get paid by the GAA to do this job and are then running around in the evenings with clubs getting paid as well - it's an absolute disgrace. More energy put into their evening roles than their daily roles.

Disgusting post. Absolutely rotten. Disgraceful and unfounded, no need for it at all.

[delgany]

I have to be honest lads. That's not my experience of the schools coaches.
When they've coached my kids they have come home buzzing. The get a lot from the county board & Ulster GAA coaches.
The get outdoor exercise, basic skills, & have fun with their friends.
I don't see a downside to it.

As far as I know the county contact every primary school & offer the coaches services. It's up to the school whether or not they accept this.

A lot of the funding (definitely for the Ulster coaches) comes from government in a scheme with IFA so they have to be in primary schools. The county can't just decide where to send them.

Im not sure that the coaches are fairly distributed and some parts get more coaching than others. I personally contacted the Co.Office in February about the coaching progamme and am still waiting a reply. The Co. Sec visited  before Covid , to ask how Co. could support schools, nothing  came off it, no feedback..consultation -  tickbox job....have had +ve experiences of coaches but need fair and equitable access , many use it as a platform to  get into teacher training ( which is great ) but Down GAA need to wake up !

Your profile says you're from Antrim?
Down GAA don't coach in Antrim schools or have you moved away from the dark side?

I work in Down !

[Truth hurts]

The Abbey in Newry were knocked out at the Quarters in the Rannafast. I think their teachers need to discuss whether a stint in  football would help them. A McLarnon win for the Abbey would be massive.

[Johnnysboys]

Disgusting post. Absolutely rotten. Disgraceful and unfounded, no need for it at all.
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Disgusting
Rotten
Disgraceful
Unfounded

But yet totally true. If you're trying to tell me that these coaches turn up to every single session in the school/area they are assigned to - you are deluded. And there is absolutely no accountability for missing days here and there. If other people were so weak at their jobs they wouldn't last long that's for sure.

[Truth hurts]

Disgusting post. Absolutely rotten. Disgraceful and unfounded, no need for it at all.

Disgusting
Rotten
Disgraceful
Unfounded

But yet totally true. If you're trying to tell me that these coaches turn up to every single session in the school/area they are assigned to - you are deluded. And there is absolutely no accountability for missing days here and there. If other people were so weak at their jobs they wouldn't last long that's for sure.
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You have yet to come with any facts on this, except spewing misinformation. Catch yourself on.

[Johnnysboys]

Disgusting post. Absolutely rotten. Disgraceful and unfounded, no need for it at all.

Disgusting
Rotten
Disgraceful
Unfounded

But yet totally true. If you're trying to tell me that these coaches turn up to every single session in the school/area they are assigned to - you are deluded. And there is absolutely no accountability for missing days here and there. If other people were so weak at their jobs they wouldn't last long that's for sure.

You have yet to come with any facts on this, except spewing misinformation. Catch yourself on.
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Misinformation
My child is in St Dallans in Warrenpoint and has had pe called off more times than enough in the recent past due to the county coach not showing up. My sisters child is in the meadow in Newry and has experienced the exact same.
My child leaves the house so excited to train under these people only to be let down at the last minute. They then get no pe as the class teacher is not qualified to take it.
So you catch yourself on

[Truth hurts]

Disgusting post. Absolutely rotten. Disgraceful and unfounded, no need for it at all.

Disgusting
Rotten
Disgraceful
Unfounded

But yet totally true. If you're trying to tell me that these coaches turn up to every single session in the school/area they are assigned to - you are deluded. And there is absolutely no accountability for missing days here and there. If other people were so weak at their jobs they wouldn't last long that's for sure.

You have yet to come with any facts on this, except spewing misinformation. Catch yourself on.

Misinformation
My child is in St Dallans in Warrenpoint and has had pe called off more times than enough in the recent past due to the county coach not showing up. My sisters child is in the meadow in Newry and has experienced the exact same.
My child leaves the house so excited to train under these people only to be let down at the last minute. They then get no pe as the class teacher is not qualified to take it.
So you catch yourself on
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I am sure you have taken this up with your teacher . The Podcast should have a discussion about coaches and would they be better served in secondary schools given the lack of success in certain schools recently.

[SamFever]

Disgusting post. Absolutely rotten. Disgraceful and unfounded, no need for it at all.

Disgusting
Rotten
Disgraceful
Unfounded

But yet totally true. If you're trying to tell me that these coaches turn up to every single session in the school/area they are assigned to - you are deluded. And there is absolutely no accountability for missing days here and there. If other people were so weak at their jobs they wouldn't last long that's for sure.

You have yet to come with any facts on this, except spewing misinformation. Catch yourself on.

Misinformation
My child is in St Dallans in Warrenpoint and has had pe called off more times than enough in the recent past due to the county coach not showing up. My sisters child is in the meadow in Newry and has experienced the exact same.
My child leaves the house so excited to train under these people only to be let down at the last minute. They then get no pe as the class teacher is not qualified to take it.
So you catch yourself on
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Johnnysboy--you are unfortunately a doting father.The wee Johnny Juniors are both hard done by in St Dallans and at St Marks.