The Official 2016 US Presidential election thread

Started by Eamonnca1, July 10, 2014, 05:07:57 AM

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Eamonnca1

I hear that superdelegates wouldn't dare go against the popular vote and have never done so, which calls their purpose into question.

Canalman

Wonder if Joe Biden is thinking of entering the fray at this stage. A long shot but the nomination imo anyway is there for him if he wants it.

HC's major issue imo again is that by and large she is not particularly likeable and folksy in the way American politicians are expected to be .

deiseach

Joe Biden will not be running. His statement on the matter was as Shermanesque as you are going to get.

Denn Forever

I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

whitey

Quote from: Canalman on February 11, 2016, 10:24:02 AM
Wonder if Joe Biden is thinking of entering the fray at this stage. A long shot but the nomination imo anyway is there for him if he wants it.

HC's major issue imo again is that by and large she is not particularly likeable and folksy in the way American politicians are expected to be .

Agree that she's not likeable or "folksy", but the bigger issue is her perceived dishonesty

http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-WB-57562


screenexile

Quote from: whitey on February 11, 2016, 12:01:37 PM
Quote from: Canalman on February 11, 2016, 10:24:02 AM
Wonder if Joe Biden is thinking of entering the fray at this stage. A long shot but the nomination imo anyway is there for him if he wants it.

HC's major issue imo again is that by and large she is not particularly likeable and folksy in the way American politicians are expected to be .

Agree that she's not likeable or "folksy", but the bigger issue is her perceived dishonesty

http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-WB-57562

It's a strange situation alright. Hilary is losing because she is dishonest and untrustworthy when Trump has been blatantly caught out on numerous occasions as being a liar and with making up things as facts yet it seems to be something that's winning him votes.

Crazy country!!

deiseach

Sincerity is the key to success. Once you can fake that you've got it made.

Denn Forever

Kinda reminds me of when Brian Lenian did smething stupid during the Presigential race in 1996, I heard someone comment that If he wasn't clever enough to cover his tracks, he'd never be able to be President.
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

LeoMc

Quote from: screenexile on February 11, 2016, 12:11:41 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 11, 2016, 12:01:37 PM
Quote from: Canalman on February 11, 2016, 10:24:02 AM
Wonder if Joe Biden is thinking of entering the fray at this stage. A long shot but the nomination imo anyway is there for him if he wants it.

HC's major issue imo again is that by and large she is not particularly likeable and folksy in the way American politicians are expected to be .

Agree that she's not likeable or "folksy", but the bigger issue is her perceived dishonesty

http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-WB-57562

It's a strange situation alright. Hilary is losing because she is dishonest and untrustworthy when Trump has been blatantly caught out on numerous occasions as being a liar and with making up things as facts yet it seems to be something that's winning him votes.

Crazy country!!

Everyone knows politicians lie to get into power so the lies are ignored and their records and their CV are looked at instead. Hilary's perceived lies are the legacy of her time in office whilst Donalds record is that of a successful businessman.

gallsman

What about his record of going bankrupt? Or some of his dodgy business practices?

Canalman

Quote from: gallsman on February 11, 2016, 01:16:52 PM
What about his record of going bankrupt? Or some of his dodgy business practices?

Pretty much a mandatory requirement back in the day to become the POTUS.

whitey

Quote from: Canalman on February 11, 2016, 01:21:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 11, 2016, 01:16:52 PM
What about his record of going bankrupt? Or some of his dodgy business practices?

Pretty much a mandatory requirement back in the day to become the POTUS.

On the right there is a real appetite for someone with business experience......nearly all modern presidents have been career politicians who've never worked a day in the private sector

Bankruptcy is not as big an issue in the US as it is in Ireland....and Trumps successes far outweigh his failures and n that front. Restructuring and write offs are part and parcel of how business gets done over here

deiseach

Quote from: LeoMc on February 11, 2016, 01:03:18 PM
Everyone knows politicians lie to get into power so the lies are ignored and their records and their CV are looked at instead. Hilary's perceived lies are the legacy of her time in office whilst Donalds record is that of a successful businessman.

It's a good point. Doesn't mean it's fair, but just about every politician lays claim to being a Beltway outsider - Trump really is.

seafoid

Quote from: deiseach on February 11, 2016, 02:18:53 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 11, 2016, 01:03:18 PM
Everyone knows politicians lie to get into power so the lies are ignored and their records and their CV are looked at instead. Hilary's perceived lies are the legacy of her time in office whilst Donalds record is that of a successful businessman.

It's a good point. Doesn't mean it's fair, but just about every politician lays claim to being a Beltway outsider - Trump really is.
So is Bernie

Oraisteach

Now the primaries enter SEC country, named after the Southeastern Conference in college sports but more accurately Staunchly Evangelical Christians.  Clinton should fare very well among African-Americans, assuming, of course, Sanders' meeting with Al Sharpton doesn't work miracles.  This is Cruz territory, though Trump seems untouchable.  As for the others, Kasich hasn't a hope in Hell, while the Rubio-Bush contest is up for grabs. Carson, though evangelical and black, is fading fast.  As the Republican field thins, I'm interested to see its effect on Trump's numbers.  He's been polling in the 30s, but I wonder how many of the dropouts' supporters he'll pick up.