Armagh v Cavan Sun 8th June

Started by illdecide, May 07, 2014, 10:45:29 AM

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yellowcard

If the home team are designated to walk on the outside of the pitch closest to the stands then why after the melee had broken up did the Ulster Council officials order that the Cavan flag holder remain on the outside? Did the Ulster council make a mistake and then fail to rectify it or was it a case that the band made the mistake by having the flag holders on the wrong sides. Its interesting to hear so many people slating McKeever when they weren't even at the match, McKeever done nothing wrong and he even advised the Cavan flag holder that she was on the wrong side. The Armagh flag holder then asked her to swap but she refused to move over to where she should have been. I don't think any bans will result after the Sunday Game played it down for a change last night.

It has overshadowed what was a very good Armagh performance bar the woeful finishing. Armagh if they had taken their chances should have won this game by 10-15 points but it leaves plenty to work on for the next game.

orangeman

Definitely a long ban for the flag bearer and the Ulster council official who failed to rectify the mistake in putting the Cavan flag to the wrong side.

Shame on the Ulster council. This is unforgivable. This sort of thing should be organised and rehearsed before the game so that shindigs like this don't happen. It's a learning curve for Ulster council and the band too.

Jinxy

Quote from: stephenite on June 09, 2014, 09:51:51 AM
Quote from: Bensars on June 09, 2014, 09:24:22 AM
Shameful scenes. The Armagh supporter who took the swing over the fence at the Cavan player shouldnt be allowed into another game.


Agreed. I don't see any real difference between this and the Louth lads who chased Sludden across Croke Pk after the Leinster final.

Once any spectator gets involved with anything on the pitch we're in very dangerous territory.

Life ban from all Gaelic Games

It's a good thing none of the players seemed to notice him do it.
Things could have gotten messy.
Well, messier.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

mackers

Quote from: yellowcard on June 09, 2014, 10:04:54 AM
If the home team are designated to walk on the outside of the pitch closest to the stands then why after the melee had broken up did the Ulster Council officials order that the Cavan flag holder remain on the outside? Did the Ulster council make a mistake and then fail to rectify it or was it a case that the band made the mistake by having the flag holders on the wrong sides. Its interesting to hear so many people slating McKeever when they weren't even at the match, McKeever done nothing wrong and he even advised the Cavan flag holder that she was on the wrong side. The Armagh flag holder then asked her to swap but she refused to move over to where she should have been. I don't think any bans will result after the Sunday Game played it down for a change last night.

It has overshadowed what was a very good Armagh performance bar the woeful finishing. Armagh if they had taken their chances should have won this game by 10-15 points but it leaves plenty to work on for the next game.
Don't waste your time posting facts on here, there's too much craic to be had in slating individual players!!
Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry and the world will turn.

yellowcard

Quote from: mackers on June 09, 2014, 10:22:52 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 09, 2014, 10:04:54 AM
If the home team are designated to walk on the outside of the pitch closest to the stands then why after the melee had broken up did the Ulster Council officials order that the Cavan flag holder remain on the outside? Did the Ulster council make a mistake and then fail to rectify it or was it a case that the band made the mistake by having the flag holders on the wrong sides. Its interesting to hear so many people slating McKeever when they weren't even at the match, McKeever done nothing wrong and he even advised the Cavan flag holder that she was on the wrong side. The Armagh flag holder then asked her to swap but she refused to move over to where she should have been. I don't think any bans will result after the Sunday Game played it down for a change last night.

It has overshadowed what was a very good Armagh performance bar the woeful finishing. Armagh if they had taken their chances should have won this game by 10-15 points but it leaves plenty to work on for the next game.
Don't waste your time posting facts on here, there's too much craic to be had in slating individual players!!

Ironically enough mostly by Tyrone fans it seems!!

Real Talk

 
Let those in charge deal with the aftermath of the Armagh v Cavan Championship game  ... just a little reading to help them along

Disciplinary Procedures are governed by the Enforcement of Rules portion of the Official Guide. They are not governed by this Handbook, which has been prepared to assist in understanding the Rules concerned and putting them into practice. Sometimes this Handbook will give an opinion as to the manner in which compliance with the Official Guide might be achieved in some circumstances, and it may be useful to consider that view. However, once you are operating within the bounds of the Rules, you should allow enough flexibility to be both efficient and fair.

The Competitions Control Committee: You have the general authority to organise Games and, in the context of Discipline, you have the role of ensuring that breaches of Rule are detected and that those guilty of infractions are made accountable. You process Referees' Reports and complaints of breaches of Rule arising from Competitions and Games; you investigate allegations of breaches of Rule; you charge those accused of breaches of Rule; you notify them of their rights; you ensure that relevant evidence is available for any Disciplinary Hearings; and you record all breaches of Rule and penalties imposed. In short, your duty is to ensure that the provisions of the Official Guide are upheld in relation to Competitions and Games.

The words  GIve Respect Get Respect come to mind


StGallsGAA

Did nothing wrong??? Going by the footage not only did Armagh kick it off (1st to raise fists),  but their  supporters attack Cavan players and once things are calmed down McKeever attempts to start it all again by lining up behind the Cavan flag again until the officials step in and tell him to wise up.   

Now you have supporters referring to the poor flag bearer as a b*tch.   Classy stuff!

harlechman

Just to clear up any confusion about Armagh "taking out" Martin Dunne. After the parade Cavan were lined up in front of the goals for the anthem at which point Dunne was getting treatment on his hand from the physio. His HAND, not his ARM. The TV pictures last night showed him in a sling on the sideline but he had an ice-pack on his hand. I'm not 100% sure how this happened as I didn't see it but maybe he punched someone during the melee. Or maybe, as Oisin McConville suggested, an Armagh player head butted him on the hand.

yellowcard

Quote from: StGallsGAA on June 09, 2014, 10:47:23 AM
Did nothing wrong??? Going by the footage not only did Armagh kick it off (1st to raise fists),  but their  supporters attack Cavan players and once things are calmed down McKeever attempts to start it all again by lining up behind the Cavan flag again until the officials step in and tell him to wise up.   

Now you have supporters referring to the poor flag bearer as a b*tch.   Classy stuff!

1) You weren't at the match so best not comment on something that you didn't witness.
2) Armagh did not kick it off, Cavan no.6 did by taking a 10 yard charge at McKeever.
3) ONE supporter took an air shot at a Cavan player (not plural)
4) McKeever did not attempt to start it all again, he stood his ground as any man would do. Do you really think he was going to back down and move to the other side.   
5) Again ONE poster called her a b***h and whilst I don't know his intentions I think we can safely assume the comment was made in jest.


balladmaker

#369
- Cavan started it, no questions about that. 
- Home team traditionally march at stand side.
- It was mostly handbags.
- There will be repercussions, and Cavan need to accept the majority of those.  If they had not shown uncontrolled aggression as they did, then the incident would not have happened, and that's that.  Cavan definitely came off the worse for the encounter, what did they expect, Armagh to just roll over and let themselves be 'pushed around' in their home ground, or any other ground for that matter!

I'd be interested to know who placed the flag holders in their positions  ;)


Jinxy

Quote from: harlechman on June 09, 2014, 10:49:08 AM
Just to clear up any confusion about Armagh "taking out" Martin Dunne. After the parade Cavan were lined up in front of the goals for the anthem at which point Dunne was getting treatment on his hand from the physio. His HAND, not his ARM. The TV pictures last night showed him in a sling on the sideline but he had an ice-pack on his hand. I'm not 100% sure how this happened as I didn't see it but maybe he punched someone during the melee. Or maybe, as Oisin McConville suggested, an Armagh player head butted him on the hand.

Thanks for clearing up that confusion.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

J OGorman



naka

Quote from: drici on June 09, 2014, 11:32:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_CvMTay-qAc#t=0
actually didn't look too bad now that I have seen it
would say a fine will be dished out to the counties