Armagh v Cavan Sun 8th June

[Armaghgeddon]

Last year Mr Grimleys tactics were very attacking V Cavan if memory serves me correctly. He said after the game that it was a work in progress and would take time to play the way he wanted them to. One year on and he's playing defensively?

Donegal did something similar, one year they played defensively and the next they played attacking football. I think it is a good way to develop a team

[WT4E]

Why do Armagh continually have so little Cross men on their team?

[mylestheslasher]

Last year Mr Grimleys tactics were very attacking V Cavan if memory serves me correctly. He said after the game that it was a work in progress and would take time to play the way he wanted them to. One year on and he's playing defensively?

Donegal did something similar, one year they played defensively and the next they played attacking football. I think it is a good way to develop a team

When was this, in the 70's sometime. To say a recent Donegal team played an attacking brand of football is ridiculous. They just tweaked their counter attacking game, thats all.

[Gaelic Life]

Was reading Gaelic Life today. The editor says he expects a Cavan win and 3 out of 4 of the tipsters say Cavan too. The bookies on the other hand go marginally for Armagh. Strange that the calls are so one sided in Gaelic life.

I assure you that on our past predictions, the bookies have little to fear.

[yellowcard]

Last year Mr Grimleys tactics were very attacking V Cavan if memory serves me correctly. He said after the game that it was a work in progress and would take time to play the way he wanted them to. One year on and he's playing defensively?

Donegal did something similar, one year they played defensively and the next they played attacking football. I think it is a good way to develop a team

What?

(1) When were the 2 years in question? To describe Donegal as attacking would be to describe Sean Cavanagh as a very honest player who always trys to stay on his feet.
(2) Why would it be a good idea one year to push defenders up to mark sweepers and leave oceans of space in our own defence for the opposition to play in. Then the following year change tack completely and play with a defensive system. It shows a complete lack of conviction and the total lack of a clear plan or vision for how the team want to play.

Either play one way or the other. I hate Donegal's style of play for instance but I admire McGuinness absolute conviction and belief in his methods that even when he was coming under intense criticism in the media he stuck with it and took defensive play to levels never seen before.

If this goes well on Sunday it will be McGeeney who will get the praise for the sudden change in tactics and personnel and will ironically weaken Grimleys position. If it goes badly however it will be Grimley who will get the flak and more than likely lose his job. It begs the question why they didn't just give the job to McGeeney altogether when it appears to have more of his characteristics in it than Grimleys. 

[naka]

still cant get my head around this team
its very defensive
with effectively 8 defensive  and physical players
I assume we will play donaghy in front of mallon and morgan and not be as exposed as last year
still cant for the life of me work out how Harold and t kernan aren't starting
worried about frees as we don't seem to have someone save for Jamie
so as it stands will ethan come out and we play three midfielders
Jamie might play on the half forward line with Campbell and mc verry playing inside
if he does it seems a very fast forward line

[regal]

I would imagine Big Joe won't be too happy. I would be happy enough with the team and am really looking forward to seeing Morgan, Findon and Ethan Rafferty in particular. I'm not quite sure what role Vernon will be playing - I can't see him playing full back after some of his performances there this year and he hasn't proved himself anywhere else. Perhaps this could be the day he delivers on a big(gish) stage.

Freetaking must be a bit of a worry. Will Ethan Rafferty take all left footed frees or will they be shared out with Jamie? There doesn't like many options for right footed frees - McVerry?

[mackers]

There were rumblings that this team would be starting earlier in the week. and I dismissed it as crazy talk. Not amused.

I had heard that this team had been playing in the challenge games and there was a fair chance of it being the starting team on Sunday.  Hyland was quoted as saying after the game last year that Cavan were happy enough for our midfiuelders to have the ball because they wouldn't know what to do with it anyway.  We've been playing two good footballers in midfield throughout the league and now we've gone back to square one.  I would have little confidence in our midfielders, one is too immobile, the other too inexperienced.
The defence looks sound enough assuming the injured players coming back are match fit, Dunne will not score nine points off Morgan who is a much more aggressive defender than Paul McKeown (he is a black card risk though).  I presume that Ethan at FF is our way of beating the blanket defence and long early ball will be sent in to him. This will be a good thing if it comes off because we simply can't continue hitting ball into Clarke who will be treble marked.
As others have flagged up, freetaking will be a concern (esp left sided ones). I wouldn't be a TK fan but he certainly did enough through the league to justify a starting place.

[Denn Forever]

Will BBC or ArmaghTV be  showing the game?

[armaghniac]

Will BBC or ArmaghTV be  showing the game?

No. You'll have to attend.

[ardchieftain]

All the seats are now sold out, only terrace tickets left.

[mylestheslasher]

Its very hard to predict how this game will pan out. So many injury concerns on both sides.

[Real Talk]

Cavan are a very well organised settled team but Mackey would be a massive loss he's terrific CHF .   I think Armagh have to choose a defensive team but Cavan's defensive system is more subtle and I expect them to win although Grimley should have a good knowledge of their capabilities

[T Fearon]

Never mind the result,can Jamie Clarke grow a proper moustache?

[Don Corleone]

Why do Armagh continually have so little Cross men on their team?

Don't worry about it. As it evolves, you'll see plenty of cross lads