Armagh v Cavan Sun 8th June

[Orior]

Gona take a wild stab at the Armagh team, however, choosing 15 from the 19 current outfield players who are fit shall be quite a task

McEvoy
Morgan
Donaghy
Mallon
Kernan
McKeever
Shields
Harold
E. Rafferty
C. Raffert
Dyas
Kernan
Clarke
Forker
Campbell/Carragher


Which leaves the bench cosisting of Vernon, Toner, Moriorty, Campbell/Carragher, McCooey, B.Mallon

Take out Dyas ... gives the ball away in 40% of his possession (Fact)....

That simply would not hold up to any type of scrutiny.

I agree. Dyas and Tony K would be my two certs for the half forward line.

[mackers]

Caolan Rafferty wouldn't be a cert in the HF line???
All of the HF line are pretty much nailed on, along with two of the FFs.  It'll be Clarke and Campbell plus AN Other.
Dyas is the best playmaker we have, Rafferty the best ball carrier and TK has done enough over the league to justify a starting spot.

[regal]

Caolan Rafferty wouldn't be a cert in the HF line???
All of the HF line are pretty much nailed on, along with two of the FFs.  It'll be Clarke and Campbell plus AN Other.
Dyas is the best playmaker we have, Rafferty the best ball carrier and TK has done enough over the league to justify a starting spot.

I would definitely agree with this. In an ideal world I would like to see McParland as well. However, Forker is ahead of mcconville / mcverry / tasker / carragher at this stage.

[Armamike]

We're certainly a long way away from winning All Irelands that's for sure but i see potential in this Armagh team and we certainly can improve over the next few seasons. This year and every year since about 06-07 is we can't seem to produce a scoring half forward line and when we unearth a few we will have a great we team to build on...we will still be hard to beat none the less...

Illdecide - Armagh are many things (e.g. unpredictable, fairly entertaining/high scoring at times) but i wouldn't call us hard to beat (at least not by any side with a half decent tactical set up or well organised defensively).   Give us a bit  of room and go man to man and we can turn it on a bit, but that's not going to happen in the  championship unless we meet the likes of Wicklow again in the qualifiers.  We've got to get back to being hard to beat, and a stubborn outfit to play against, and then progress things from there.

[Westside]

Who will be favourites for this?

[Itchy]

Armagh are 10/11, Cavan 11/10 with Paddypower so the bookies don't see much in it.

[mackers]

Caolan Rafferty wouldn't be a cert in the HF line???
All of the HF line are pretty much nailed on, along with two of the FFs.  It'll be Clarke and Campbell plus AN Other.
Dyas is the best playmaker we have, Rafferty the best ball carrier and TK has done enough over the league to justify a starting spot.

I would definitely agree with this. In an ideal world I would like to see McParland as well. However, Forker is ahead of mcconville / mcverry / tasker / carragher at this stage.

He may be (Tasker has left the panel) but somebody needs to work on his shot selection.  He'd shoot from the terrace if he was standing on it.  Can be very frustrating to watch. 

[yellowcard]

I'm not sure where the optimism for the future for Armagh comes from. Andy Mallon, Aaron Kernan and Ciaran McKeever are in the twilight of thier careers and those are 3 of our best players. Donaghy has also been blighted by injuries in recent years and there is no guarantee he will get back to the level he was at before. Our record at minor and U-21 level in the last 3/4 years has been very poor and there appears to be very little fresh talent coming through. We need to work from the bottom up on putting the proper structures in place to produce a better quality of player at these levels first before we can expect improved results at senior level. In the short term I don't see any reasons for improved optimism although a change of management at the end of this season might help.

[ck]

I'm not sure where the optimism for the future for Armagh comes from. Andy Mallon, Aaron Kernan and Ciaran McKeever are in the twilight of thier careers and those are 3 of our best players. Donaghy has also been blighted by injuries in recent years and there is no guarantee he will get back to the level he was at before. Our record at minor and U-21 level in the last 3/4 years has been very poor and there appears to be very little fresh talent coming through. We need to work from the bottom up on putting the proper structures in place to produce a better quality of player at these levels first before we can expect improved results at senior level. In the short term I don't see any reasons for improved optimism although a change of management at the end of this season might help.

Would agree with this. Find it strange that bookies have little between them. Cavan surely have to be fav here. Armagh have been a disaster for 2 years now.

[Walter Cronc]

Perhaps this has already been posted so apologies.

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=216312

[Itchy]

Hopefully McGeeney has the same effect on Armagh that's he has had on Tipperary, no effect.

[thewobbler]

Genuinely not on the wind-up here, but where have all the Armagh fans gone on GAABoard? Have they decamped to a new forum?

Can't believe how quiet this thread is.

[Itchy]

I was looking at hoganstands armagh page and there is no one saying anything over there either.

[Throw ball]

We are all hiding at the minute as confidence is low. Wait until we beat Cavan.

Many use Armagh's own forum.

[rodney trotter]

Pressure is on Cavan to win this game after promotion and u21 success but woulldn't be surprised if Armagh turned Cavan over. They have a lot of players back from injury since the League and probaly were unlucky to be relegated as they put in a few good performances during the league from the games that were shown live on Setanta.