Doire v Tir Eoghain, Celtic Park, Sat 1st Feb & on Setanta Sports 1

Started by Fuzzman, January 22, 2014, 03:53:18 PM

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quiganmaster

Good game which both sides can take plenty of positives from, good comeback from 7 points down. Would have taken a draw but gutted we couldn't get that win which would help us to safety. The doc dominated midfield and some fine performances from SL, Gerard OKane and Mckaige. Enough of these Tyrone boyos whinging about the ref, he had an iffy enough game for both sides but remember, it is Joe Mcquillan... Tyrone have some big players to come back to their team but not the 7-8 that some are claiming will start in the championship. Derry have Bradley, the ballinderry outfit(nevin, bell, mckinless, devlins, wilkinson,) PJ, skinner and mcgoldrick all to come back, of which I'd be expecting at least 5/6 to start come championship time. I have to say don't think Tyrone will be far away!(hopefully very far but haha!) All in all, a very good game played on good spirit in difficult conditions! If the games are to be like this all summer well I can't bludy wait! Great night for both young teams to get experience. Doire AbĂș

Fuzzman

Yeah Stevie will probably continue to be riddled with injuries again this year but will no longer be the main target man any more but surely its worth having him as an impact sub for the last twenty mins in the summer. With the game in the balance he could turn a game around if he's fit. I'm delighted to see Mickey giving all these new young lads their chance as they will learn a lot from this league campaign.
I thought young McCurry was excellent last night not only his shooting but his work rate. He has obviously learned to curb his ego and bust his ass tackling back.
A few of ye last year were saying to play Mattie in at FF but does he seem very slow to others too? I know he was well marked last night but my question is, is that his best position. I was very impressed with him last year but would he be better on the 40?
I hope Lavery gets another start next week as we need goal scorers in the team. Will be interesting to see how long Mickey persists with no sweeper. Also was impressed with young Tierney as never saw him before.
Mayo will be another step up next week


Wildweasel74

Donnelly best position is at No.6 see how Tyrone dont give him a run in that position, Harte when put on the back foot cant really defend and probably better suited to wing back or wing forward

screenexile

Having thought about it since my opinion hasn't changed. We should have won that!

Will we get another opportunity like that to get 2 pts in this Division? Maybe Westmeath but I can't see many more. Young Brown got roasted and I don't understand why he was left on McCurry for so long. Midfield was excellent and we didn't get enough ball forward but there are things to work on and hopefully we can improve for Kerry next week.

BennyHarp

Quote from: screenexile on February 02, 2014, 12:26:56 PM
Having thought about it since my opinion hasn't changed. We should have won that!

Will we get another opportunity like that to get 2 pts in this Division? Maybe Westmeath but I can't see many more. Young Brown got roasted and I don't understand why he was left on McCurry for so long. Midfield was excellent and we didn't get enough ball forward but there are things to work on and hopefully we can improve for Kerry next week.

Tyrone should have won it too. 7 points up half way through a game isn't a game we should have lost. Derry can count themselves lucky a young, inexperienced Tyrone team didn't finish them off.
That was never a square ball!!

God14

Yeah I've woken up & thought about it and very dissapointed we didn't win that game. Derry huffed & puffed and battled well for a draw.. But at the end of the day we were 7 points up in the second half.

Whilst both sides were missing say 5 men - the caliber of the men we were missing was much more significant than derrys. For example Sean Cav could have fielded the odd kick out when we lost 7 I'm a row. He'd have kicked a few scores as well. We are missing foer allstars and footballers of the year like!
Gormley would have organised the defence better. We could have done with the athleticism of the Mahons too.
Had mickey really wanted to close it out we would have deployed a sweeper fr the final 25 mins
Dissapointed.
A point lost.

Estimator

Derry gifted Tyrone 2 goals. First from extremely slack marking and the second from a shocking defensive mistake. Tyrone scored 7pts from deadballs, Derry only managed 3pts. Derry kicked a bucket full wide from decent positions, the most glaring one I can remember is Lynch just before  half time. Morgan made a superb save from Doc to deny a certain goal. McBride deserved the black card, Kielt stood his ground and McBride ran into to him, it's not like he couldn't have seen Kielt standing there. McQuillan chicken out of a penalty decision when Morgan pushed a player over in a goal mouth scramble. That was just one of the various inconsistencies from Joe, sometimes the surrounded player got the free, sometimes the free was blown against them. Too many players kept trying to bounce the ball, despite the evidence  illustrating that it was not going to arrive back in their hands. Too many players carried the ball into contact with the opposition and underfoot conditions was not conducive to a quick getaway. Regardless of the comeback from 7pts down, Derry should have won that game. They had enough opportunities.
Ulster League Champions 2009

Silver hill

Credit to both teams, excellent game given the conditions. From a Derry perspective, it's definitely a point lost as we had more than enough chances to win the game in the last 20 mins especially. Will never, ever, question patsy Bradley's commitment or endeavour, however his use of the ball and execution of even the basic 10 yard fist pass is poor. Thought our keepers kick outs were poor and his mistake for Tyrone's 2nd goal was unforgivable at this level. Where was the marking for the 1st goal? Midfield were AWOL. Gerard Okane wants to eat the ball, over carried and turned over on 3 occasions in 1st half alone. Scored a good point in 2nd half but in my opinion, a very over rated player who believes his own hype. At best a corner back who should be given a man marking job and be told to stick to it. Emmet mcguckin was excellent, superb handling and a great target man at 14. Lynn also was effective though not sure what happened in 2nd half when he seemed to play a more withdrawn role. We didn't win any breaking ball for 40 mins, kielt needs to give us much more at 11 from general play.  Overall very encouraging start, if we beat Westmeath and Kildare, we'll survive.

BennyHarp

On reflection, I've changed my opinion, Tyrone were lucky to hold on for a point against Derry who I would install as All Ireland favourites.
That was never a square ball!!

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: orangeman on February 02, 2014, 10:19:26 AM
Joe Mc Quillan would not have sent the Tyrone man off if it had not been for the linesman who brought it to the ref's attention.

It seems clear to me that the body checking foul is the really obvious, easier to see black card offence. The others, the trip, pull done, shouting at the ref and opponents will rarely be called.

It may have been the stream I had - but I think there was a tackle shortly after halftime in the same part of the field pretty much identical to the Tyrone black card in the first half that was missed by the referee and linesman.

Anyone remember the incident?

currychip

 You're right.  That one free cost Tyrone the game.  Bloody ref. 
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 02, 2014, 05:04:35 PM
Quote from: orangeman on February 02, 2014, 10:19:26 AM
Joe Mc Quillan would not have sent the Tyrone man off if it had not been for the linesman who brought it to the ref's attention.

It seems clear to me that the body checking foul is the really obvious, easier to see black card offence. The others, the trip, pull done, shouting at the ref and opponents will rarely be called.

It may have been the stream I had - but I think there was a tackle shortly after halftime in the same part of the field pretty much identical to the Tyrone black card in the first half that was missed by the referee and linesman.

Anyone remember the incident?

Fuzzman

How many steps did Beefy take for that equalising score at the end? Whinge whinge

Redhand Santa

Very good game given the conditions and time of year. We played well at times but also went out of the game for 2 longs spells which is something that needs to be worked on. Was disappointed in the half forward line. If we're going to win anything this year we need to get better at winning break ball which is very important for the half forward line. I think Donnelly might have to come back out here next week. Colm Cavanagh definitely helped midfield when he came on. Seemed to run out of steam a little as a result of it being his first game and this may have been a factor in the poor last 15 minutes round the middle.

The forwards did play some nice football at times and McCurry is showing well. Another good game from Morgan. I think Harte needs to look at his defence. If we're going to go man to man then Peter Harte needs to move to the wing as he's too attacking for centre half. Someone like Joe McMahon might be better suited to holding this area. Clarke at full back struggles to get out in front of his man.

nrico2006

The main aim for Tyrone is to get the younger players as many games as possible in division one and retain division one status.  A lack of experience cost Tyrone the other night, they will learn collectively and individually from it.  The main aim is to improve as the games come.   

'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

nrico2006

Quote from: kickingmule on February 02, 2014, 01:41:27 AM
Cassidy if injury free the best midfielder around, Time to cull mckenna's x3 + Mc neice, Mc bride, no where near county standard and
Harte needs to get his act together or he could be joining them.
The rest of the new comers have been very impressive.
Con Grugan looks a great prospect, but disappointed with Ronan O'Neills  workrate when interduced.

McBride looks a better prospect at this stage than Cassidy to be honest.  Why persist with a man in the squad who makes Darren Anderton look like Robocop?
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'