Ireland v Australia, Rules Test 1, Breffni Park, Saturday 19 October 2013

[cavanmaniac]

It's not the fact that it's a makey-uppey game that I dislike. All games are ultimately makey-uppey. It's mainly that I think it's dangerous and irresponsible to pit amateur athletes against professionals in a physical contact sport where a physical hit is a component of the game - a physical hit in which the professionals are trained and the amateurs are not.

It's simply that our players are unschooled and not naturally braced for a hit that doesn't happen in Gaelic.

My feelings exactly. I'm sure we might hold our own in arm wrestles or chinup challenges and the like but to think that the Irish lads are psychologically or physically prepared to go full-tilt contact against the strongest Australians, in an all-out contest, is comically wide of the mark. The only player we have had in the modern incarnation of the game who could take and dish it out was McGeeney...and there aren't or won't be many more McGeeneys.
It all means that to make it somewhat viable it has to be pared down and made so docile as to mean it's not worth the bother. Again, though, if you enjoy watching it I respect that and have no problem if it continues...unlikely though it now seems.

[DennistheMenace]

McGeeney was (is) a hardy man, Sean Marty was never found wanting either.

[bluenosebandit]

It's pretty hard to watch nowadays as all the competitiveness has been removed from it. I did take in the game on saturday evening past and found myself wanting the Australians to win as in my opinion, the rules have been diluted and changed so much that it is virtualy impossible for the Aussies to win, or to even be competitive.
Their physicality, speed, fitness and professional athlete status has minimal bearing on the game, the rules dont allow them to intimidate ireland any longer and as a result ireland simply run away with it.
watching it you find yourself wanting a "dust up" or two to get the intensity of the game up a level or two.

To make the game even remotely fair, the aussies should be able to choose a goalie from ireland to play for them as quite frankly its just embarrassing to watch one of their players between the posts, obviously dangerous tackles should be taken out of it but it is much too tame at the moment so something needs to be done to make it more physical.

On another point, and im aware it has been raised elsewhere, being from tyrone, sean cavanagh using the memory of cormac mcanallen to strengthen his argument for playing compromised rules ahead of a club game, poor form!!

[Jinxy]

Sean Cavanagh should just stop talking to the media altogether at this stage.

[muppet]

It's not the fact that it's a makey-uppey game that I dislike. All games are ultimately makey-uppey. It's mainly that I think it's dangerous and irresponsible to pit amateur athletes against professionals in a physical contact sport where a physical hit is a component of the game - a physical hit in which the professionals are trained and the amateurs are not.

It's simply that our players are unschooled and not naturally braced for a hit that doesn't happen in Gaelic.

My feelings exactly. I'm sure we might hold our own in arm wrestles or chinup challenges and the like but to think that the Irish lads are psychologically or physically prepared to go full-tilt contact against the strongest Australians, in an all-out contest, is comically wide of the mark. The only player we have had in the modern incarnation of the game who could take and dish it out was McGeeney...and there aren't or won't be many more McGeeneys.
It all means that to make it somewhat viable it has to be pared down and made so docile as to mean it's not worth the bother. Again, though, if you enjoy watching it I respect that and have no problem if it continues...unlikely though it now seems.

Dear God.

There are plenty of good arguments against the series without making up nonsense.

[Jinxy]

Soccer players are stronger than tennis players.
Gaelic footballers are stronger than soccer players.
Aussie rules players are stronger than gaelic footballers.
Rugby players are stronger than aussie rules players.
etc.
There's no need to feel inferior because the physical demands of gaelic football are different to the physical demands of aussie rules.

[rodney trotter]

Geraghty got the massive hit in that game for giving Racial abuse in Australia the year before. It was Ott hit all the same. The Irish team on Saturday over were over all were taller then the Australians  and there wasn't huge difference in S&C as is being made out.

[Jinxy]

Geraghty got the massive hit in that game for giving Racial abuse in Australia the year before. It was Ott all the same. The Irish team on Saturday over were over all taller then the Australians  and there wasn't huge difference in S&C as is being made out.

No he didn't Rodney, you dipstick. 

[BennyHarp]

Sean Cavanagh should just stop talking to the media altogether at this stage.

+1 Couldn't agree more

[rodney trotter]

Geraghty got the massive hit in that game for giving Racial abuse in Australia the year before. It was Ott all the same. The Irish team on Saturday over were over all taller then the Australians  and there wasn't huge difference in S&C as is being made out.

No he didn't Rodney, you dipstick. 

Oh really? No it never happened?

[BennyHarp]

Geraghty got the massive hit in that game for giving Racial abuse in Australia the year before. It was Ott all the same. The Irish team on Saturday over were over all taller then the Australians  and there wasn't huge difference in S&C as is being made out.

No he didn't Rodney, you dipstick. 

Oh really? No it never happened?

There must have been some load of Irish lads giving racial abuse if all of them were hit for that reason.

[rodney trotter]

He was targeted early in the match , whoever else got hit was after that.

[Jinxy]

He was targeted because he was involved in a shemozzle with one of their players in the game in Galway the week before.
They more or less said they were going to 'get' him in the papers.
Nothing to do with anything else Rodney.

[BennyHarp]

He was targeted early in the match , whoever else got hit was after that.

That day, the Aussies systematically hit the nearest Irishman to them at the final whistle. Much as you would wish that it was some kind of moral crusade against racism, i'd be more inclined to think it was their pre-meditated attempt to physcially intimidate an Irish team that had beaten them week before in Galway, leading to a bit of abuse in the Irish press. If you dont believe me - listen to Anthony Moyles on Newstalk this week. He reckons it was the first time in his life that he went out onto a football pitch fearing for his safety.

[rodney trotter]

He was targeted early in the match , whoever else got hit was after that.

That day, the Aussies systematically hit the nearest Irishman to them at the final whistle. Much as you would wish that it was some kind of moral crusade against racism, i'd be more inclined to think it was their pre-meditated attempt to physcially intimidate an Irish team that had beaten them week before in Galway, leading to a bit of abuse in the Irish press. If you dont believe me - listen to Anthony Moyles on Newstalk this week. He reckons it was the first time in his life that he went out onto a football pitch fearing for his safety.

Australia beat Ireland in Galway. Its not a cruasade he was targeted in Galway, he was a easy player to wind up