Ireland v Australia, Rules Test 1, Breffni Park, Saturday 19 October 2013

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Jinxy

There are few things more silly than people trying to convince themselves they're offended by a comment because they think possibly maybe in the year 2013 they're supposed to be.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Tony Baloney


Sidney

Yeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!

We did it!

Champions of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2013, 12:43:19 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 27, 2013, 12:16:27 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2013, 09:15:40 PM
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 26, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
The Aussies obviously had half a mind on heading to Coppers later tonight.

A half a mind?  Some of them still had their heads on it from last night by the look of things!!  What's the bets there will be a glut of half breeds born next summer?

>:(

What's wrong with you?

Blatant racism probably
Jumping to conclusions lads. Your liberal leanings are liable to make fools of you. When I read it I interpreted it as half-Irish, half-Aussie with no racial connotations.

In fairness any use of "half-breed" has racial connotations. Like it or not. Don't find it offensive myself but some certainly might.

Would the potential offspring of a blonde Aussie lad hooking up with an Irish girl be described as a half-breed? Answer is no.

stephenite

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 27, 2013, 02:28:29 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2013, 12:43:19 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 27, 2013, 12:16:27 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2013, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 26, 2013, 09:14:10 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2013, 09:10:16 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 26, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
The Aussies obviously had half a mind on heading to Coppers later tonight.

A half a mind?  Some of them still had their heads on it from last night by the look of things!!  What's the bets there will be a glut of half breeds born next summer?

>:(

What's wrong with you?

Blatant racism probably
Jumping to conclusions lads. Your liberal leanings are liable to make fools of you. When I read it I interpreted it as half-Irish, half-Aussie with no racial connotations.

In fairness any use of "half-breed" has racial connotations. Like it or not. Don't find it offensive myself but some certainly might.

Would the potential offspring of a blonde Aussie lad hooking up with an Irish girl be described as a half-breed? Answer is no.

Correct, in the context of an indigenous only Australian team it is a racist comment. The term half breed denotes inferior to full breed, it is a particular insult within aboriginal communities itself ironically enough.

I'd hasten to point out that I don't believe BC is racist or his comment was intentional

stephenite

Quote from: Jinxy on October 27, 2013, 12:55:43 AM
There are few things more silly than people trying to convince themselves they're offended by a comment because they think possibly maybe in the year 2013 they're supposed to be.

Coming from the man who's spent the last few weeks shouting about how offended he his by Sean Cavanaghs opinion on what he feels honoured by, that comment is particularly ridiculous

rrhf

Back to the game and I do think that the race issue was first introduced by the Aussies. After all they removed the national team idea and picked a specific race to play again Ireland. Possibly for the first time in sporting history it was a race based team versus a national team. That is against the very ethos of any sporting contest i know, and particularly an ideal based sporting organisation like the gaa were found wanting. It has convinced me that the Australian organisation has limited concern on this. I think the gaa are only concerned about the quality of footballer that has arrived and should be asking a few hard questions as to why a specific race was sent over. My bet is that this thing will eventually be handed over to the GPA to run anyway/ watch this space. The GPA could see the international perspective as a way of getting dough in and professional exercises and the gaa can still keep the thing amateur for the most part in Ireland. As for the game. Wouldn't mattered who was playing the game is a poor spectacle and can only improved with more boxing. On another note i think their will be a change in strategy and it will be the GPa who will be handed over the reins to devlope gaa abroad. Professionalism at power 11  super 10s or whatever they call it might be the approach. Multiple franchise business model and the pick of gaa players throughout Ireland post college level at manageable dough. Like Belfast giants but with a point. Then the least of our worries will be Australia. As it might be one nation where the product has too close a rival.

Dougal Maguire

Quote from: Jinxy on October 27, 2013, 12:55:43 AM
There are few things more silly than people trying to convince themselves they're offended by a comment because they think possibly maybe in the year 2013 they're supposed to be.
That's a really good point.
Careful now

Zulu

Although the first test was poor I thought last night could have been a great spectacle if the Aussies had a decent team. For all the pissing and moaning of some posters on here this is still a great opportunity and a viable product if done correctly by both sides. At the end of the day there isn't a better alternative.

squire_in_navy_slacks

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2013, 09:10:16 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 26, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
The Aussies obviously had half a mind on heading to Coppers later tonight.

A half a mind?  Some of them still had their heads on it from last night by the look of things!!  What's the bets there will be a glut of half breeds born next summer?

jaysus.......................... the  Ó hAilpíns, Jayo , lee chin and the young lads coming the down the tracks will still have to put up with this lark  ::)

From the Bunker

Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on October 27, 2013, 10:35:32 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2013, 09:10:16 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 26, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
The Aussies obviously had half a mind on heading to Coppers later tonight.

A half a mind?  Some of them still had their heads on it from last night by the look of things!!  What's the bets there will be a glut of half breeds born next summer?

jaysus.......................... the  Ó hAilpíns, Jayo , lee chin and the young lads coming the down the tracks will still have to put up with this lark  ::)

I doubt there was any real harm meant by the comment. But the comment carries harm in what it portrays. And if you can't see that then you have your own problems.

Rossfan

Quote from: rrhf on October 27, 2013, 05:11:21 AM
Back to the game and I do think that the race issue was first introduced by the Aussies. After all they removed the national team idea and picked a specific race to play again Ireland. Possibly for the first time in sporting history it was a race based team versus a national team. That is against the very ethos of any sporting contest i know, and particularly an ideal based sporting organisation like the gaa were found wanting. It has convinced me that the Australian organisation has limited concern on this. I think the gaa are only concerned about the quality of footballer that has arrived and should be asking a few hard questions as to why a specific race was sent over. My bet is that this thing will eventually be handed over to the GPA to run anyway/ watch this space. The GPA could see the international perspective as a way of getting dough in and professional exercises and the gaa can still keep the thing amateur for the most part in Ireland. As for the game. Wouldn't mattered who was playing the game is a poor spectacle and can only improved with more boxing. On another note i think their will be a change in strategy and it will be the GPa who will be handed over the reins to devlope gaa abroad. Professionalism at power 11  super 10s or whatever they call it might be the approach. Multiple franchise business model and the pick of gaa players throughout Ireland post college level at manageable dough. Like Belfast giants but with a point. Then the least of our worries will be Australia. As it might be one nation where the product has too close a rival.
Anti GPA paranoia (sp?) alive and well.
Relax buckeen.

Awful poor team sent from Oz for this one. If them lads can make a living from playing football with that level of "ability"...... shakes head.....
Loads of kids enjoying a night out in Croker and shouting for Ireland and seeing many of our top players in action and delivering a good range of skills, albeit without much opposition.
No harm in that  - although Jinxy would probably make them all go to 5 Junior B games on wet days and windswept pitches in the middle of the Meath ranches to atone for their heresy.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Jinxy

Quote from: Zulu on October 27, 2013, 10:33:58 AM
Although the first test was poor I thought last night could have been a great spectacle if the Aussies had a decent team. For all the pissing and moaning of some posters on here this is still a great opportunity and a viable product if done correctly by both sides. At the end of the day there isn't a better alternative.

Hmmm.... I've noticed the pro-IR people use phrases like this a lot.
Do you all work in morkeshing?
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Zulu

You mean phrases like "alternative" "isn't" "there", please develop this further as I'm intrigued?