2013 All Ireland Final: Mayo v Dublin

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muppet

Quote from: Sidney on September 23, 2013, 11:32:18 AM
Haven't seen any highlights and only going on the live viewing from where I was standing.

Mayo destroyed Dublin tactically in the first half but didn't make it pay, and they ran themselves into the ground doing it. The goal kept Dublin in it and was desperately soft from a defensive point of view. The last five minutes of the first half were crucial in keeping Dublin in it and I felt at half-time Dublin would win as the game opened up. At 0-8 to 1-2, another couple of Mayo scores would have had Dublin is serious trouble.

Mannion, McCaffrey and Kilkenny sunk without trace. The occasion was just too much for them I think. Kilkenny and Mannion in particular have faded a good bit as the season has gone on. Eoghan O'Gara's introduction improved the Dublin forward line hugely - the Dublin forwards bar Brogan were hiding and he gave them an extra outlet for ball - he showed for everything and took the right decisions in possession.

Dublin were much the better team in the second half when the game started to open up, as was predictable.

Taking off Freeman and Dillon were terrible mistakes by Horan. Mayo have always been at their best with Dillon directing things. He's an intelligent and calm footballer and to take him off for the last 15 minutes meant Mayo were rudderless, and worse they replaced him with the awful Varley who isn't up to it at this level. Taking Freeman off was another stupid decision. Although Cillian O'Connor didn't get injured, there was always a chance it could happen at any stage and Mayo would then have been without their two free takers.

I thought Dublin were in huge trouble with about seven or eight minutes left with O'Carroll concussed and O'Gara crocked and no subs left. Mayo had the chance there and then but they'd taken their leaders off. Dillon's absence actually allowed Brennan free reign to go forward.

Brennan's point reminded me of Paul Clarke's in 1995 - the exact same scenario and a very similar kick.

Dublin's full back line for the last ten minutes was Rory'Carroll right corner, Paul Flynn full back and Cian O'Sullivan left cormer. Somebody here mentioned Aidan O'Shea should have gone in full forward.

Dublin's third All-Ireland in a row to be won by one point. McAuley nailed on for Footballer of the Year now. A limited footballer in terms of skill but his importance to Dublin is incredible.

Unreal occasion. I feel desperately sorry for Mayo, despite winding Mayo people up here for the last few days.

This is a good post and I agree with just about all of it.

Too disappointed to give an analysis.

But I am sure we will be back.
MWWSI 2017

INDIANA

Quote from: AZOffaly on September 23, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
Missing the point Indy. I know everyone does it. I'd love Offaly to be in a position where a cynical foul means we win an All Ireland. What's a bit rich is Dublin saying they *weren't* cynical. I'd be saying something along the lines of " Yeah, look, that's the way these things go. The lads were out on their feet after a huge effort and really they were doing everything they could to stop Mayo winning the game. "

That's all they did, and that's all anyone else has done in the past as well. I'm no lover of Tyrone, but I respect them for all they've done, but they must be livid at how they got singled out for this.

They were cynical to win. No argument there. But by that point we'd outplayed mayo. So I don't think anyone can say we needed to do it to win. It's simply a case now that teams will enforce it to get over the line. Mayo did the same to us last year in the semi. Did it cost us the game!
? No because they had already out footballed us on the day.
The legislators need to act.

Sea The Stars

Quote from: INDIANA on September 23, 2013, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 23, 2013, 12:14:51 PM
I can't believe Gavin came out with this tirade against the ref, did he have a few drinks in him and let his guard slip? There were a few marginal calls that went against Dublin in the first half but by and large Mayos tackiling was cleaner and executed better than Dublin's and I actually thought McQuillan had a fine game in the main. Mayo could easily argue over the incorrect 45m call in the first half and the stoppage time at the end of the game.

As for McAuley being POTY, I would say the chances are slim. He is a very limited footballer in terms of ability but is an absolute workhorse and was very important to Dublin all year. However in the absence of any standout footballers it could well be that someone like the Gooch could shade it this year. Personally I think it should go to Keith Higgins who was immense yesterday in a beaten team.

Mayo cynically fouled in the semi final last year so it's hypocritical for any poster to cry wolf now. Mc Auley is an incredible player. Anyone who thinks he's average doesn't know the game. He's the heartbeat of the Dublin team.
Donegal had the monopoly on average players winning an all ireland last year.

He doesn't kick the ball very often and he has an awkward looking running style. But yes he was a warrior and a worker and the heartbeat of the Dublin team as you say.

I think yellowcard has a point though. He has a limited skillset not what you expect from a "Footballer" of the year. If you went back through the video tapes, I'm sure you'd find at least half a dozen examples where McAuley was one-on-one with the goalie and kicked the ball straight at him. There was the one yesterday that led to the '45. There was one in the Kerry game which he blasted over. I think Paddy O'Rourke saved one from him.

yellowcard

Quote from: INDIANA on September 23, 2013, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 23, 2013, 12:14:51 PM
I can't believe Gavin came out with this tirade against the ref, did he have a few drinks in him and let his guard slip? There were a few marginal calls that went against Dublin in the first half but by and large Mayos tackiling was cleaner and executed better than Dublin's and I actually thought McQuillan had a fine game in the main. Mayo could easily argue over the incorrect 45m call in the first half and the stoppage time at the end of the game.

As for McAuley being POTY, I would say the chances are slim. He is a very limited footballer in terms of ability but is an absolute workhorse and was very important to Dublin all year. However in the absence of any standout footballers it could well be that someone like the Gooch could shade it this year. Personally I think it should go to Keith Higgins who was immense yesterday in a beaten team.

Mayo cynically fouled in the semi final last year so it's hypocritical for any poster to cry wolf now. Mc Auley is an incredible player. Anyone who thinks he's average doesn't know the game. He's the heartbeat of the Dublin team.
Donegal had the monopoly on average players winning an all ireland last year.

He has an incredible workrate and desire to win, but in terms of technical skill he IS average. A players player however and one worth his weight in gold to the team.


brokencrossbar1

Quote from: yellowcard on September 23, 2013, 12:41:42 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 23, 2013, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 23, 2013, 12:14:51 PM
I can't believe Gavin came out with this tirade against the ref, did he have a few drinks in him and let his guard slip? There were a few marginal calls that went against Dublin in the first half but by and large Mayos tackiling was cleaner and executed better than Dublin's and I actually thought McQuillan had a fine game in the main. Mayo could easily argue over the incorrect 45m call in the first half and the stoppage time at the end of the game.

As for McAuley being POTY, I would say the chances are slim. He is a very limited footballer in terms of ability but is an absolute workhorse and was very important to Dublin all year. However in the absence of any standout footballers it could well be that someone like the Gooch could shade it this year. Personally I think it should go to Keith Higgins who was immense yesterday in a beaten team.

Mayo cynically fouled in the semi final last year so it's hypocritical for any poster to cry wolf now. Mc Auley is an incredible player. Anyone who thinks he's average doesn't know the game. He's the heartbeat of the Dublin team.
Donegal had the monopoly on average players winning an all ireland last year.

He has an incredible workrate and desire to win, but in terms of technical skill he IS average. A players player however and one worth his weight in gold to the team.

'McAuley gets by because he always gives 100 per cent, but he will never be anything more than a water carrier' - although intended as an insult I always thought this paraphrased quote was more of a compliment than the intended insult.

Bingo

McAuley has played a massive role for the Dubs this year, his discipline in both the application of his skills and staying on the field, has been vastly superior that other years. He even looks in far better shape to play the style that Dublin needs.

He'll do the simple things all day that require a massive amount of ability - he knows his limitations and plays to them. He worth his place on any team.

yellowcard

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 23, 2013, 12:41:42 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 23, 2013, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 23, 2013, 12:14:51 PM
I can't believe Gavin came out with this tirade against the ref, did he have a few drinks in him and let his guard slip? There were a few marginal calls that went against Dublin in the first half but by and large Mayos tackiling was cleaner and executed better than Dublin's and I actually thought McQuillan had a fine game in the main. Mayo could easily argue over the incorrect 45m call in the first half and the stoppage time at the end of the game.

As for McAuley being POTY, I would say the chances are slim. He is a very limited footballer in terms of ability but is an absolute workhorse and was very important to Dublin all year. However in the absence of any standout footballers it could well be that someone like the Gooch could shade it this year. Personally I think it should go to Keith Higgins who was immense yesterday in a beaten team.

Mayo cynically fouled in the semi final last year so it's hypocritical for any poster to cry wolf now. Mc Auley is an incredible player. Anyone who thinks he's average doesn't know the game. He's the heartbeat of the Dublin team.
Donegal had the monopoly on average players winning an all ireland last year.

He has an incredible workrate and desire to win, but in terms of technical skill he IS average. A players player however and one worth his weight in gold to the team.

'McAuley gets by because he always gives 100 per cent, but he will never be anything more than a water carrier' - although intended as an insult I always thought this paraphrased quote was more of a compliment than the intended insult.

It was certainly not intended as an insult but was merely an observation.   

Milltown Row2

So it's been pulled!! I wrote a lot of shit there and now the sympathy thread has gone!!! All I needed was another 30 seconds FFS
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: yellowcard on September 23, 2013, 12:56:09 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 23, 2013, 12:41:42 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 23, 2013, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 23, 2013, 12:14:51 PM
I can't believe Gavin came out with this tirade against the ref, did he have a few drinks in him and let his guard slip? There were a few marginal calls that went against Dublin in the first half but by and large Mayos tackiling was cleaner and executed better than Dublin's and I actually thought McQuillan had a fine game in the main. Mayo could easily argue over the incorrect 45m call in the first half and the stoppage time at the end of the game.

As for McAuley being POTY, I would say the chances are slim. He is a very limited footballer in terms of ability but is an absolute workhorse and was very important to Dublin all year. However in the absence of any standout footballers it could well be that someone like the Gooch could shade it this year. Personally I think it should go to Keith Higgins who was immense yesterday in a beaten team.

Mayo cynically fouled in the semi final last year so it's hypocritical for any poster to cry wolf now. Mc Auley is an incredible player. Anyone who thinks he's average doesn't know the game. He's the heartbeat of the Dublin team.
Donegal had the monopoly on average players winning an all ireland last year.

He has an incredible workrate and desire to win, but in terms of technical skill he IS average. A players player however and one worth his weight in gold to the team.

'McAuley gets by because he always gives 100 per cent, but he will never be anything more than a water carrier' - although intended as an insult I always thought this paraphrased quote was more of a compliment than the intended insult.

It was certainly not intended as an insult but was merely an observation.

The original quote by Cantona was an insult against Deschamp in an attempt to rise him before an important CL game, not you about McAualey.

seafoid

Can any player become POTY or do they need POTY training ?

charlieTully

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 12:57:54 PM
So it's been pulled!! I wrote a lot of shit there and now the sympathy thread has gone!!! All I needed was another 30 seconds FFS

was quite enjoying that thread.

muppet

Quote from: hardstation on September 23, 2013, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on September 23, 2013, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 12:57:54 PM
So it's been pulled!! I wrote a lot of shit there and now the sympathy thread has gone!!! All I needed was another 30 seconds FFS

was quite enjoying that thread.
ONeill should get a ban along with it.

Great idea.

Then we could start a 'No sympathy for O'Neill' thread.
MWWSI 2017

deiseach

#1212
Quote from: muppet on September 23, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
Great idea.

Then we could start a 'No sympathy for O'Neill' thread.

I don't think that tumbleweed gif would be able to take the strain.

Jinxy

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 12:57:54 PM
So it's been pulled!! I wrote a lot of shit there and now the sympathy thread has gone!!! All I needed was another 30 seconds FFS

Chin up.
There's always next year.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Sidney

Mayo just seemed paralysed in that last 10 minutes. Even with the team they had on the pitch, Dublin were still there for the taking. Paul Flynn was playing full back. Yet it seemed to me as if Mayo were playing a one man full forward line, with just Conroy, who is not a big man, up there. When Mayo attacked there was nobody there to send it in to.

It was crying out for a big man to be thrown in there. And Mayo also needed somebody with the pig ignorance to not let the situation affect them, to demand the ball and be selfish. Somebody like Conor Mortimer. I don't think he would have hidden, anyway.