2013 All Ireland Final: Mayo v Dublin

[Jinxy]

It took Mayo nearly a minute to convert that last free. There would have been one more play left if they just tapped it over

Exactly, O'Connor took way too long over a simple free.

[Dirk Diggler]

O'Connor according to the radio ran after Mc Quillan and berated him for 2 minutes after the final whistle which kinda suggests Mc Quillan told him there'd be time for one more play.

Bad doing if this is true.

Got to be something in it so, O'Connor would hardly have taken his point and reacted that way after the whistle unless he was told otherwise by McQuillan. The ref in the hurling final conjured up more time on top of the added time when there was no reason (other than give Clare a chance of a draw) but when there was blatantly obvious reasons to do so today it didn't happen.

[glens73]

O'Connor according to the radio ran after Mc Quillan and berated him for 2 minutes after the final whistle which kinda suggests Mc Quillan told him there'd be time for one more play.

Bad doing if this is true.

Time this lad was pensioned off if that's true 

O'Connor was looking to the Mayo sideline to see what he should do and it didn't appear like he was getting any help. They should have been shouting for all they were worth to go for the goal.

[Bord na Mona man]

Cluxton was under pressure with his early kickouts had Mayo had managed to keep tight on Dublin, he probably would have started taking wilder options as the game progressed. This was a huge systems failure for Mayo that they allowed him easily hit distant targets for most of the rest of the game.

For all the talk of Dublin's superiority and Mayo forwards being poor, there was only a point in it. Suggesting that Dublin forwards can just click and start rattling the twines at some future stage is a bit speculative. Top drawer shooters don't keep hitting the keeper with their shots. Bernard Brogan is sheer class, but had he not shown up today I'm not sure the rest could have pulled them through.

As for the decision to tap over the final free. I wonder will we hear more about this? Did McQuillan indicate there was time to take the point and then go for an equaliser? This happened Offaly against Kildare in 2002. With time nearly up and Offaly weighing up whether to go for goal with a close in free, referee Paddy Russell clarified with the Offaly players that there was sufficient time to go for the equaliser if they took the point. Imagine how amused they were when he blew for full time seconds after the point went over.

Ah you couldn't be anymore begrudging. We won by a lot more then a point. Mayo have no marquee forward. Said it pre-game on Saturday afternoon. And I was right. No team has ever won an All-Ireland with just good forwards. The facts are Dean Rock would be Mayo's marquee forward if he was born in Castlebar.

Enjoy the win (which was fully deserved), but that sort of crowing is ill advised, even in the heat of celebration.
Take out Brogan and Dublin's 5 other started forwards scored 3 points.
Dublin's 2nd best forward today was Eoghan O'Gara and his early introduction turned out to be blessing.
Let's not be mixing up marquees with 4 man tents...

[SouthDublinBro]

Mayo fans clutching at straws now. Even if McQuillan had played on, Dublin had won that last kickout.

[Dirk Diggler]

Bit of consistency from Bolly at least

Joe Brolly ‏@JoeBrolly1993 
So much for Dublin's "playing the game the right way" philosophy. Their last quarter display was a master class in cynicism.

[INDIANA]

Cluxton was under pressure with his early kickouts had Mayo had managed to keep tight on Dublin, he probably would have started taking wilder options as the game progressed. This was a huge systems failure for Mayo that they allowed him easily hit distant targets for most of the rest of the game.

For all the talk of Dublin's superiority and Mayo forwards being poor, there was only a point in it. Suggesting that Dublin forwards can just click and start rattling the twines at some future stage is a bit speculative. Top drawer shooters don't keep hitting the keeper with their shots. Bernard Brogan is sheer class, but had he not shown up today I'm not sure the rest could have pulled them through.

As for the decision to tap over the final free. I wonder will we hear more about this? Did McQuillan indicate there was time to take the point and then go for an equaliser? This happened Offaly against Kildare in 2002. With time nearly up and Offaly weighing up whether to go for goal with a close in free, referee Paddy Russell clarified with the Offaly players that there was sufficient time to go for the equaliser if they took the point. Imagine how amused they were when he blew for full time seconds after the point went over.

Ah you couldn't be anymore begrudging. We won by a lot more then a point. Mayo have no marquee forward. Said it pre-game on Saturday afternoon. And I was right. No team has ever won an All-Ireland with just good forwards. The facts are Dean Rock would be Mayo's marquee forward if he was born in Castlebar.

Enjoy the win (which was fully deserved), but that sort of crowing is ill advised, even in the heat of celebration.
Take out Brogan and Dublin's 5 other started forwards scored 3 points.
Dublin's 2nd best forward today was Eoghan O'Gara and his early introduction turned out to be blessing.
Let's not be mixing up marquees with 4 man tents...

What did Mayo's forwards score from play ? 1-3 and one of them was a back!  Our forwards subs or otherwise scored 2-8. I rest my case.

It's not crowing at all its pointing out the complete inaccuracies in your analysis.

[Dirk Diggler]

Mayo fans clutching at straws now. Even if McQuillan had played on, Dublin had won that last kickout.

And you can say with complete certainty that if there had been ,say, another 30-40 seconds that Dublin would have held on to the ball?

[tyroneboi]

Mayo fans clutching at straws now. Even if McQuillan had played on, Dublin had won that last kickout.

In fairness the ref had blown the final whistle before that kick out was won.

[screenexile]

Mayo are bound to be kicking themselves that's one that got away for sure.

2 things: Had they dealt with Cluxtons kickouts and had Higgins not gone into defence (he was my MOTM by the way) I think they win the game.

As it stands the Dubs deserved it but stumbled over the line especially with that dross they served up for the last 15 mins - Tyrone esque!

[Bord na Mona man]

Cluxton was under pressure with his early kickouts had Mayo had managed to keep tight on Dublin, he probably would have started taking wilder options as the game progressed. This was a huge systems failure for Mayo that they allowed him easily hit distant targets for most of the rest of the game.

For all the talk of Dublin's superiority and Mayo forwards being poor, there was only a point in it. Suggesting that Dublin forwards can just click and start rattling the twines at some future stage is a bit speculative. Top drawer shooters don't keep hitting the keeper with their shots. Bernard Brogan is sheer class, but had he not shown up today I'm not sure the rest could have pulled them through.

As for the decision to tap over the final free. I wonder will we hear more about this? Did McQuillan indicate there was time to take the point and then go for an equaliser? This happened Offaly against Kildare in 2002. With time nearly up and Offaly weighing up whether to go for goal with a close in free, referee Paddy Russell clarified with the Offaly players that there was sufficient time to go for the equaliser if they took the point. Imagine how amused they were when he blew for full time seconds after the point went over.

Ah you couldn't be anymore begrudging. We won by a lot more then a point. Mayo have no marquee forward. Said it pre-game on Saturday afternoon. And I was right. No team has ever won an All-Ireland with just good forwards. The facts are Dean Rock would be Mayo's marquee forward if he was born in Castlebar.

Enjoy the win (which was fully deserved), but that sort of crowing is ill advised, even in the heat of celebration.
Take out Brogan and Dublin's 5 other started forwards scored 3 points.
Dublin's 2nd best forward today was Eoghan O'Gara and his early introduction turned out to be blessing.
Let's not be mixing up marquees with 4 man tents...

What did Mayo's forwards score from play ? 1-3 and one of them was a back!  Our forwards subs or otherwise scored 2-8. I rest my case.

It's not crowing at all its pointing out the complete inaccuracies in your analysis.

My analysis was that if that there was really such a gulf (Dublin's 2nd sub would hypothetically be Mayo's marquee forward). And let's say there is, then for Dublin to only win by a point is surprising.
Your belief is that "[Dublin] won by a lot more then a point."

[SkillfulBill]

This final will go down as the poorest final for years,  not that the Dubs will care. Poor skills on show from both teams
Terrible tackling, passing, shooting, defending and a massive dose of cynicism to boot. We were promised that this game was going to be played the way the game is supposed to be played by the two greatest proponents of open attacking football. If this is where its at then bring back the blanket.

[INDIANA]

Cluxton was under pressure with his early kickouts had Mayo had managed to keep tight on Dublin, he probably would have started taking wilder options as the game progressed. This was a huge systems failure for Mayo that they allowed him easily hit distant targets for most of the rest of the game.

For all the talk of Dublin's superiority and Mayo forwards being poor, there was only a point in it. Suggesting that Dublin forwards can just click and start rattling the twines at some future stage is a bit speculative. Top drawer shooters don't keep hitting the keeper with their shots. Bernard Brogan is sheer class, but had he not shown up today I'm not sure the rest could have pulled them through.

As for the decision to tap over the final free. I wonder will we hear more about this? Did McQuillan indicate there was time to take the point and then go for an equaliser? This happened Offaly against Kildare in 2002. With time nearly up and Offaly weighing up whether to go for goal with a close in free, referee Paddy Russell clarified with the Offaly players that there was sufficient time to go for the equaliser if they took the point. Imagine how amused they were when he blew for full time seconds after the point went over.

Ah you couldn't be anymore begrudging. We won by a lot more then a point. Mayo have no marquee forward. Said it pre-game on Saturday afternoon. And I was right. No team has ever won an All-Ireland with just good forwards. The facts are Dean Rock would be Mayo's marquee forward if he was born in Castlebar.

Enjoy the win (which was fully deserved), but that sort of crowing is ill advised, even in the heat of celebration.
Take out Brogan and Dublin's 5 other started forwards scored 3 points.
Dublin's 2nd best forward today was Eoghan O'Gara and his early introduction turned out to be blessing.
Let's not be mixing up marquees with 4 man tents...

What did Mayo's forwards score from play ? 1-3 and one of them was a back!  Our forwards subs or otherwise scored 2-8. I rest my case.

It's not crowing at all its pointing out the complete inaccuracies in your analysis.

My analysis was that if that there was really such a gulf (Dublin's 2nd sub would hypothetically be Mayo's marquee forward). And let's say there is, then for Dublin to only win by a point is surprising.
Your belief is that "[Dublin] won by a lot more then a point."

Because our forwards were marking the best defensive unit in Ireland.

Their forwards weren't. Now if you can't work that out I give up!

[lynchbhoy]

My mc of the match was hennelly the mayo keeper
Next Seamus O'Shea ( thought they were stupid taking him off - best outfield player today)
Third Berno brogan

Another comment on the ref - was he trying to even it up be denying mayo obv frees near the end.

IMO despite the fantastic season, we need two refs on a pitch

[lynchbhoy]

Oh and hard luck to all you decent mayo football fans- you deserve a win.

Deel far et al sorry for you lads