2013 All Ireland Final: Mayo v Dublin

[Hound]

Here is an article after last years Dublin / Mayo game where the bould Pat McEnaney discusses Joe and the Dubs - http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2012/0904/ireland/blood-subs-come-under-scrutiny-206384.html

So in 2012 he had not done an internal training game for two years and he took the FF defense before that (can't remember).  Either he did or he didn't the can't remember line isn't great.

Joe would have been better to come out and say I did these games in the past and as an intercounty ref I shouldn't have.  As usual the story is more in the cover-up than the event. If in fact he did any in house matches as if Joe can't remember we can't say for definite.  I wounder does he remember the final from two years ago?

McQuillan never reffered an A v B game for Dublin. Never!

In the past he may have reffed a challenge game involving Dublin against another county, but all refs do that! No doubt he's probably reffed Kerry, Mayo, etc in challenge games too.

[Never beat the deeler]

I think that McEnaney tells more in what he doesn't say than in what he does (why did he put in the bit about "in the last two years"?), but I don't think it makes one iota of difference. Joe Mc knows that his performance is going to be under extreme scrutiny and he won't go out with the intention of giving either team an advantage.

I suppose the period of down time leading up to the final is going to produce these types of 'non-discussions'. Everybody wants to talk about the game, but there's (almost) nothing new to discuss.

Any word on McAuley's injury?

[Michael Schmeichal]

From a Dublin point of view I would prefer any other ref to Joe. He allowed Mayo systematically foul Dublin for the final 15 mins of last years semi final . In the quarter final v Tyrone in 2011 he completely rode Dublin. Nobody passed too may remarks at the time as Dublin won well but it was a shockingily one sided performance from him. Finally in the 2011 final he penalised Eoin Brosnan for touching the ball on the ground in the small square but incorrectly awarded a 14 yard free rather than a penalty. If he is biased towards Dublin he's not doing much of a job of showing it.

[orangeman]

From a Dublin point of view I would prefer any other ref to Joe. He allowed Mayo systematically foul Dublin for the final 15 mins of last years semi final . In the quarter final v Tyrone in 2011 he completely rode Dublin. Nobody passed too may remarks at the time as Dublin won well but it was a shockingily one sided performance from him. Finally in the 2011 final he penalised Eoin Brosnan for touching the ball on the ground in the small square but incorrectly awarded a 14 yard free rather than a penalty. If he is biased towards Dublin he's not doing much of a job of showing it.

That's the whole point. Brosnan didn't touch it on the ground -  so he gave you a free for nothing. You were looking s penalty for nothing and had to settle for a tap over free. Good deal.

[Michael Schmeichal]

From a Dublin point of view I would prefer any other ref to Joe. He allowed Mayo systematically foul Dublin for the final 15 mins of last years semi final . In the quarter final v Tyrone in 2011 he completely rode Dublin. Nobody passed too may remarks at the time as Dublin won well but it was a shockingily one sided performance from him. Finally in the 2011 final he penalised Eoin Brosnan for touching the ball on the ground in the small square but incorrectly awarded a 14 yard free rather than a penalty. If he is biased towards Dublin he's not doing much of a job of showing it.

That's the whole point. Brosnan didn't touch it on the ground -  so he gave you a free for nothing. You were looking s penalty for nothing and had to settle for a tap over free. Good deal.

He definitely touched it on the ground. There was a still photo going around at the time that proved it

[squire_in_navy_slacks]

Anyone have there accounts debited yet for the tickets ?

[orangeman]

From a Dublin point of view I would prefer any other ref to Joe. He allowed Mayo systematically foul Dublin for the final 15 mins of last years semi final . In the quarter final v Tyrone in 2011 he completely rode Dublin. Nobody passed too may remarks at the time as Dublin won well but it was a shockingily one sided performance from him. Finally in the 2011 final he penalised Eoin Brosnan for touching the ball on the ground in the small square but incorrectly awarded a 14 yard free rather than a penalty. If he is biased towards Dublin he's not doing much of a job of showing it.

That's the whole point. Brosnan didn't touch it on the ground -  so he gave you a free for nothing. You were looking s penalty for nothing and had to settle for a tap over free. Good deal.

He definitely touched it on the ground. There was a still photo going around at the time that proved it

There was a still photo going round a week or two ago that Jim Gavin said proved that Rory did nothing.

















Poor Gooch.

[ballinaman]

Anyone have there accounts debited yet for the tickets ?

No....might not get them by friday now especially if they printing your name on the ticket too.

[squire_in_navy_slacks]

Anyone have there accounts debited yet for the tickets ?

No....might not get them by friday now especially if they printing your name on the ticket too.

Thanks Ballinaman................I had to email them this morning because I was rather anxious that no money was debited and they the ones sending out the mail insisting everything be up to speed etc 

[AMayoFan]

I actual think it's a good idea for the ref to referrer an AvB game.  Doing so will give the team an expectation on what they will pull on and what they will let go.  The only issue I would have if the same service isn't offered to both teams!   

Lets take Deegan referring style .. he appears to come down hard at start of a game than later starts to let the game flow and develop, than in the later parts of a game he tires to even up calls to make up for mistakes.  For me, this is where I get frustrated. Seeing players getting yellow cards and others not depending what stage the game is in.

I also really can't see how people think / believe that refs are intentional bias (if they do think that I, than it must be there own bias opinion).  It's just not in refs interest!!!  All the top inter-county refs have worked hard and spend huge amount of there personal time to reach that level. Some are better than others, but I firmly believe they're all trying to be impartial and fair where possible.  That said, I won't disagree with anyone who says they need to keep improving.

[Michael Schmeichal]

I also really can't see how people think / believe that refs are intentional bias (if they do think that I, than it must be there own bias opinion).  It's just not in refs interest!!!  All the top inter-county refs have worked hard and spend huge amount of there personal time to reach that level. Some are better than others, but I firmly believe they're all trying to be impartial and fair where possible.  That said, I won't disagree with anyone who says they need to keep improving.

Thats an excellent point well made.

[muppet]

I actual think it's a good idea for the ref to referrer an AvB game.  Doing so will give the team an expectation on what they will pull on and what they will let go.  The only issue I would have if the same service isn't offered to both teams!   

Lets take Deegan referring style .. he appears to come down hard at start of a game than later starts to let the game flow and develop, than in the later parts of a game he tires to even up calls to make up for mistakes.  For me, this is where I get frustrated. Seeing players getting yellow cards and others not depending what stage the game is in.

I also really can't see how people think / believe that refs are intentional bias (if they do think that I, than it must be there own bias opinion).  It's just not in refs interest!!!  All the top inter-county refs have worked hard and spend huge amount of there personal time to reach that level. Some are better than others, but I firmly believe they're all trying to be impartial and fair where possible.  That said, I won't disagree with anyone who says they need to keep improving.

Good post.

It is a pity that we are talking about the ref, as both teams have played real attacking football, scored lots of goals and run up big scores. There are lots of positives to talk about, why look hard for a negative?

[joemamas]

I think that McEnaney tells more in what he doesn't say than in what he does (why did he put in the bit about "in the last two years"?), but I don't think it makes one iota of difference. Joe Mc knows that his performance is going to be under extreme scrutiny and he won't go out with the intention of giving either team an advantage.

I suppose the period of down time leading up to the final is going to produce these types of 'non-discussions'. Everybody wants to talk about the game, but there's (almost) nothing new to discuss.

Any word on McAuley's injury?

Does McAuley really have an injury, or is typical pre all-ireland nonsense (last year AOSe was supposidly out morning of game)it would be very significant as midfield is probably one area where Dublin do not have a lot of cover.

[bucko]

I think that McEnaney tells more in what he doesn't say than in what he does (why did he put in the bit about "in the last two years"?), but I don't think it makes one iota of difference. Joe Mc knows that his performance is going to be under extreme scrutiny and he won't go out with the intention of giving either team an advantage.

I suppose the period of down time leading up to the final is going to produce these types of 'non-discussions'. Everybody wants to talk about the game, but there's (almost) nothing new to discuss.

Any word on McAuley's injury?

Does McAuley really have an injury, or is typical pre all-ireland nonsense (last year AOSe was supposidly out morning of game)it would be very significant as midfield is probably one area where Dublin do not have a lot of cover.

Where did this rumour appear out of? Personally I don't believe info like that unless I see it in the media. If it is serious enough to be newsworthy it will make the sports section of the paper/ RTE news.

[macdanger2]

I think that McEnaney tells more in what he doesn't say than in what he does (why did he put in the bit about "in the last two years"?), but I don't think it makes one iota of difference. Joe Mc knows that his performance is going to be under extreme scrutiny and he won't go out with the intention of giving either team an advantage.

I suppose the period of down time leading up to the final is going to produce these types of 'non-discussions'. Everybody wants to talk about the game, but there's (almost) nothing new to discuss.

Any word on McAuley's injury?

Does McAuley really have an injury, or is typical pre all-ireland nonsense (last year AOSe was supposidly out morning of game)it would be very significant as midfield is probably one area where Dublin do not have a lot of cover.

Where did this rumour appear out of? Personally I don't believe info like that unless I see it in the media. If it is serious enough to be newsworthy it will make the sports section of the paper/ RTE news.

I saw him coming out of the Beacon on Tues evening with heavy strapping on his right elbow, not sure exactly what's wrong with it though