Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[Scoring Zone]

agree with a lot of this, but everyone associated with the team is under the cosh now, personally i think it should get really ruthless now and would cull a few lads (up to 8 lads) a few big hitters and men milling about the squad but not making an impact - as they didn't look fit, organised and the worst of all motivated, they look to be a group of lads cording themselves that they are motivated and doing the work but when the heat comes on they fold. Reset in culture needed quickly

You say they don't look fit - they're not carrying weight, does their sharpness then come back to the S&C of Peter Donnelly? The same Peter Donnelly who had them in the shape to win an all Ireland 2 years ago - it's a funny old game.

To me particularly in the last 20 very heavy legged, a particularly in a few roscommon counter attack they seemed to be able to pull away from the tyrone men and the support play was not its usual energy - so it's either they are doing a load of work during the week or conditioning isnt where it needs to be but don't think i'll watch that one back to verify!

[giveherlong]

Who else is involved in the squad from last years u20s? Niall Devlin has been heavily involved and playing pretty well so far. Cush there too and we're working off the assumption that McGleenan and Canavan are involved in the wider squad? Anyone else from that squad capable of making the step up yet? McHugh has another 3 or 4 years at MacRory Cup level with HTC so he'll probably be included in a few years.

*Cough* *Cough* HTC

[trailer]

agree with a lot of this, but everyone associated with the team is under the cosh now, personally i think it should get really ruthless now and would cull a few lads (up to 8 lads) a few big hitters and men milling about the squad but not making an impact - as they didn't look fit, organised and the worst of all motivated, they look to be a group of lads cording themselves that they are motivated and doing the work but when the heat comes on they fold. Reset in culture needed quickly

You say they don't look fit - they're not carrying weight, does their sharpness then come back to the S&C of Peter Donnelly? The same Peter Donnelly who had them in the shape to win an all Ireland 2 years ago - it's a funny old game.

To me particularly in the last 20 very heavy legged, a particularly in a few roscommon counter attack they seemed to be able to pull away from the tyrone men and the support play was not its usual energy - so it's either they are doing a load of work during the week or conditioning isnt where it needs to be but don't think i'll watch that one back to verify!

When teams are not playing well they can look unfit. I would doubt that is the actual case. It's a difficult time for the team. They don't seem to have any belief and are looking around at each other for leadership and inspiration. It's definitely lacking.

[southtyronegael]

Not a great  start to the league but time to iron out some problems. Canavan missed a free with a minute left to make it a one point game then they get a goal to leave 5 in it so we were closer than the scoreline  suggests. Huge game against  donegal in omagh this weekend. Mc curry needs to start and we need to start playing  football  instead of fuckin about with  meaningless solo runs  and hand passes.

[NotedObserver]

Not a great  start to the league but time to iron out some problems. Canavan missed a free with a minute left to make it a one point game then they get a goal to leave 5 in it so we were closer than the scoreline  suggests. Huge game against  donegal in omagh this weekend. Mc curry needs to start and we need to start playing  football  instead of fuckin about with  meaningless solo runs  and hand passes.

This is embedded now. Need to find a way to get the ball to Canavan and McCurry as the quality and shooting instincts stands out a mile. Defence is wide open at the moment and not sure what the answer is 

[bogball88]

Mc Shanes confidence must be on the floor. Looked brilliant in the mc kenna cup, plays against a gael force breeze and dooher pulls him off at half time?? We had nothing to hit inside in the second half. Also to be an inside forward and have to watch Meyler hog the ball with putting inside his last resort must be awful.

Shocking behaviour

[CK_Redhand]

Firstly how do we know it was Dooher alone who made the decision?

Secondly, there may be more innocent explanations for a sub. He might have been carrying an injury, maybe he said something or had a bad attitude in the dressing room. Maybe he refused to follow instructions on the pitch. We have no way of knowing that he was subbed for his performance alone.

[WT4E]

What about the management of Liam Nugent, very unfair IMO and wouldn't fill me with confidence on this current management. An early exit and it could be over for Doogan!

[clubman21]

What about the management of Liam Nugent, very unfair IMO and wouldn't fill me with confidence on this current management. An early exit and it could be over for Doogan!

Nugent being dropped definitely a strange one, seemed to score everytime he got a chance, Clarke and Corry both from omagh gone also.

[Christmas Lights]

Not a great  start to the league but time to iron out some problems. Canavan missed a free with a minute left to make it a one point game then they get a goal to leave 5 in it so we were closer than the scoreline  suggests. Huge game against  donegal in omagh this weekend. Mc curry needs to start and we need to start playing  football  instead of fuckin about with  meaningless solo runs  and hand passes.

This is what you asked for!! Bring back Mickey Harte.

[Onthe40]

anyone know the final squad for the league?

[NotedObserver]

What about the management of Liam Nugent, very unfair IMO and wouldn't fill me with confidence on this current management. An early exit and it could be over for Doogan!

Nugent being dropped definitely a strange one, seemed to score everytime he got a chance, Clarke and Corry both from omagh gone also.

Would Clarke not have something to offer?

[Mikhailov]

What about the management of Liam Nugent, very unfair IMO and wouldn't fill me with confidence on this current management. An early exit and it could be over for Doogan!

Nugent being dropped definitely a strange one, seemed to score everytime he got a chance, Clarke and Corry both from omagh gone also.

Would Clarke not have something to offer?

Very surprised to hear Clarke is gone. He is a quality player with serious pace and a very good man marker. This team needs pace in all areas so I honestly thought he would have been pushing for a place on the playing squad in NFL

[tyroneStatto]

What about the management of Liam Nugent, very unfair IMO and wouldn't fill me with confidence on this current management. An early exit and it could be over for Doogan!

was he dropped or did he leave of his own accord? anyway it's good news for the Rock this season as I don't think he played much for them in 2022.

[stillsenior]

What about the management of Liam Nugent, very unfair IMO and wouldn't fill me with confidence on this current management. An early exit and it could be over for Doogan!

Nugent being dropped definitely a strange one, seemed to score everytime he got a chance, Clarke and Corry both from omagh gone also.

Would Clarke not have something to offer?

Very surprised to hear Clarke is gone. He is a quality player with serious pace and a very good man marker. This team needs pace in all areas so I honestly thought he would have been pushing for a place on the playing squad in NFL

Clarke is doing a PGCE in Carlisle but his final school placement is at home starting this week.........