Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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TopOfTheRight13

It not hard to star in a free role where you mark no one stand in front of full back line offering no support to attack wasting no energy.. Are you a fool? Why was he hooked.. Skeet mac hasn't played in two years kicked 7points of an all star full back coming back from a cruciate..soo what does colly cav offer this team apart from a bluffing sweeping role

BennyHarp

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Quote from: TopOfTheRight13 on May 20, 2018, 10:14:21 PM
It not hard to star in a free role where you mark no one stand in front of full back line offering no support to attack wasting no energy.. Are you a fool? Why was he hooked.. Skeet mac hasn't played in two years kicked 7points of an all star full back coming back from a cruciate..soo what does colly cav offer this team apart from a bluffing sweeping role

He was hooked because, unless you were living under a rock all week, you'd be aware that he's been carrying an injury into the game.?

Monaghan are actually a decent team. Fair play to them. We had too many lads playing at an average level today and that just wasn't going to cut it against a decent team like them. We actually started the game  brilliantly, with some great attacking play and some lovely scores. But when the pressure is applied we revert to type and don't want to kick the ball and shuffle it sideways into trouble. Our midfield was cleaned out too. It's time I think to let Declan McClure sink or swim, give him every game in the qualifiers to see if he is up to it. Conal McCann is just definitely not up to it.

On Ronan O'Neill, he was given a chance and he contributed nothing. Compare the desire, work rate and hunger between him and Skeet. His main contribution was when he picked up a pass on the 21 with his back to goal, great opportunity to swing it over, he knows where the posts are, it's his home pitch ffs, but he shuffles a fist passt over his shoulder to man with 3 blue jerseys hanging off him and a promising move breaks down. I don't know what he has to whinge about coming off, I'd have hooked him at half time...unless of course he was complaining because McCann was the replacement, which is fair enough.
That was never a square ball!!

TopOfTheRight13

Quote from: BennyHarp on May 20, 2018, 10:30:10 PM
Quote from: TopOfTheRight13 on May 20, 2018, 10:14:21 PM
It not hard to star in a free role where you mark no one stand in front of full back line offering no support to attack wasting no energy.. Are you a fool? Why was he hooked.. Skeet mac hasn't played in two years kicked 7points of an all star full back coming back from a cruciate..soo what does colly cav offer this team apart from a bluffing sweeping role

He was hooked because, unless you were living under a rock all week, you'd be aware that he's been carrying an injury into the game.?

Monaghan are actually a decent team. Fair play to them. We had too many lads playing at an average level today and that just wasn't going to cut it against a decent team like them. We actually started the game  brilliantly, with some great attacking play and some lovely scores. But when the pressure is applied we revert to type and don't want to kick the ball and shuffle it sideways into trouble. Our midfield was cleaned out too. It's time I think to let Declan McClure sink or swim, give him every game in the qualifiers to see if he is up to it. Conal McCann is just definitely not up to it.

On Ronan O'Neill, he was given a chance and he contributed nothing. Compare the desire, work rate and hunger between him and Skeet. His main contribution was when he picked up a pass on the 21 with his back to goal, great opportunity to swing it over, he knows where the posts are, it's his home pitch ffs, but he shuffles a fist passt over his shoulder to man with 3 blue jerseys hanging off him and a promising move breaks down. I don't know what he has to whinge about coming off, I'd have hooked him at half time...unless of course he was complaining because McCann was the replacement, which is fair enough.

So if he wasn't fit to start after not having kicked a ball since moys all ireland exertions from last year why was he on the field of play.. If he doesn't trust mcclure paudie mcnulty or so so... Why are they on the panel so.. Your that far up hates hole benny your talking out of his mouth

Localexpert

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/44153287

Did anyone see this interview in the build up to today?  Maybe our players should stop worrying about how good looking they are and how great/bad their hair looks and concentrate on the size 5 oneills what you reckon?

Scoring Zone

out of all the counties tyrone monaghan galway and mayo ended up with a shit draw, div1 vs div1 high probability of going out, dublin, kerry et al have div 2/3 cake walks to get them up and running. we have a decent team that can compete and will go to quarters and possible a semi but not enough class, end of, jim galvin or eamonn fotzmaurice would be getting the same results.

monaghan did the obvious shut donnelly harte and sludden down and hope for the best (mcmanus) who is as good a forward that i have seen, has everything, different class.

the questions i would ask is around the so called preparation and 'professionalism' specially round cavanagh, coming off a really long season, and a history of niggles and age, fcuked into tyrone matches and training and gets hurt, then rushed back to play, what is the panel for and 4 nights a week training, doing when there is no other replacement or plan B. i would love to see the appearances or minutes played by all of the panel in the last 3years i would say after 19 there would be a big divide.

on o'neill when it's your 2nd or 3rd time subed in and out player and management needs to realise this isn't happening and do your club a favour and go back and give them the time, play and win more and he is not the only one, there's a few players that have been never done injured or it hasn't worked out for them, shit happens go back to the club start enjoying your football and forget about the gear.

Tyrone Gaa

Cavanagh is definitely not done!! Worst statement I've seen on here in a long time. He 'bluffs' (as you put it) in round the full back line because that's the role he is given. He could be as easily thrust into the full forward line and asked to play as a target man that he was as a minor when he won an all Ireland. If he was unleashed and allowed to carry the fight he would be a different animal.

That wouldn't work because Harte needs a sweeper as part of his system and there is no finer sweeper in Ireland. There is no trust in the panel for others to step up and Colm Cavanagh hasn't kicked a ball for his club and didn't feature in the latter league games.

McNulty and McClure surely have to be questioning their role in the setup. 

I thought McShane was very poor today. Mickey has a panel of 35ish? Are there any of the other 9 outside of the 26 named today going to be knocking the door down for a chance next day out?
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TopOfTheRight13

Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 20, 2018, 11:29:00 PM
Cavanagh is definitely not done!! Worst statement I've seen on here in a long time. He 'bluffs' (as you put it) in round the full back line because that's the role he is given. He could be as easily thrust into the full forward line and asked to play as a target man that he was as a minor when he won an all Ireland. If he was unleashed and allowed to carry the fight he would be a different animal.

That wouldn't work because Harte needs a sweeper as part of his system and there is no finer sweeper in Ireland. There is no trust in the panel for others to step up and Colm Cavanagh hasn't kicked a ball for his club and didn't feature in the latter league games.

McNulty and McClure surely have to be questioning their role in the setup. 

I thought McShane was very poor today. Mickey has a panel of 35ish? Are there any of the other 9 outside of the 26 named today going to be knocking the door down for a chance next day out?

Sure why not play Kyle coney ronie o Neill and Darren mccurry as sweepers too then sure they played starring roles for there minors in all ireland wins. Living in the past. I beg to differ on finer sweepers in ireland when you play a defensive system... Colly cav wouldn't lace cian o sullivans boots.. You think for one second cavanagh would make Dublin /kerry team.. I think not. Surely Richie donnelly has to be given a chance... Breed the new blood... Mick mckernan was standout... Ciaran mcloughlin worth a shout too

Tyrone Gaa

Quote from: TopOfTheRight13 on May 20, 2018, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 20, 2018, 11:29:00 PM
Cavanagh is definitely not done!! Worst statement I've seen on here in a long time. He 'bluffs' (as you put it) in round the full back line because that's the role he is given. He could be as easily thrust into the full forward line and asked to play as a target man that he was as a minor when he won an all Ireland. If he was unleashed and allowed to carry the fight he would be a different animal.

That wouldn't work because Harte needs a sweeper as part of his system and there is no finer sweeper in Ireland. There is no trust in the panel for others to step up and Colm Cavanagh hasn't kicked a ball for his club and didn't feature in the latter league games.

McNulty and McClure surely have to be questioning their role in the setup. 

I thought McShane was very poor today. Mickey has a panel of 35ish? Are there any of the other 9 outside of the 26 named today going to be knocking the door down for a chance next day out?

Sure why not play Kyle coney ronie o Neill and Darren mccurry as sweepers too then sure they played starring roles for there minors in all ireland wins. Living in the past. I beg to differ on finer sweepers in ireland when you play a defensive system... Colly cav wouldn't lace cian o sullivans boots.. You think for one second cavanagh would make Dublin /kerry team.. I think not. Surely Richie donnelly has to be given a chance... Breed the new blood... Mick mckernan was standout... Ciaran mcloughlin worth a shout too

Go to bed, you've got school in the morning... my point was Cavanagh can play any role he is asked to play. A current all star and at least 2 out of the last 3 years Tyrone County player of the year. I do think that Cavanagh would play on them county sides when fully fit but that's an opinion and hypothetical situation.

All isn't right with Tyrone, forgetting the performance we seen O'Neill's reaction when subbed showed discontent and anger towards Harte something we haven't seen from anyone aimed at Harte publicly. Sean Cavanagh has been very critical since leaving the panel, I'd imagine Colm's thought process would be similar. Petey Harte showed frustration punching out. He actually hit out of the ball in the play prior that went un-noticed.

I still expect to make the super 8's but the cracks are appearing. I'm nearly expecting to see a few players leave the panel within the next fortnight.
Living the dream!!!

southtyronegael

Quote from: Localexpert on May 20, 2018, 10:57:52 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/44153287

Did anyone see this interview in the build up to today?  Maybe our players should stop worrying about how good looking they are and how great/bad their hair looks and concentrate on the size 5 oneills what you reckon?
only after seein this! what a fuckin embarressment. forget about all irelands with guys like this playing.

our_fella

Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 21, 2018, 12:18:28 AM
Quote from: TopOfTheRight13 on May 20, 2018, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 20, 2018, 11:29:00 PM
Cavanagh is definitely not done!! Worst statement I've seen on here in a long time. He 'bluffs' (as you put it) in round the full back line because that's the role he is given. He could be as easily thrust into the full forward line and asked to play as a target man that he was as a minor when he won an all Ireland. If he was unleashed and allowed to carry the fight he would be a different animal.

That wouldn't work because Harte needs a sweeper as part of his system and there is no finer sweeper in Ireland. There is no trust in the panel for others to step up and Colm Cavanagh hasn't kicked a ball for his club and didn't feature in the latter league games.

McNulty and McClure surely have to be questioning their role in the setup. 

I thought McShane was very poor today. Mickey has a panel of 35ish? Are there any of the other 9 outside of the 26 named today going to be knocking the door down for a chance next day out?

Sure why not play Kyle coney ronie o Neill and Darren mccurry as sweepers too then sure they played starring roles for there minors in all ireland wins. Living in the past. I beg to differ on finer sweepers in ireland when you play a defensive system... Colly cav wouldn't lace cian o sullivans boots.. You think for one second cavanagh would make Dublin /kerry team.. I think not. Surely Richie donnelly has to be given a chance... Breed the new blood... Mick mckernan was standout... Ciaran mcloughlin worth a shout too

Go to bed, you've got school in the morning... my point was Cavanagh can play any role he is asked to play. A current all star and at least 2 out of the last 3 years Tyrone County player of the year. I do think that Cavanagh would play on them county sides when fully fit but that's an opinion and hypothetical situation.

All isn't right with Tyrone, forgetting the performance we seen O'Neill's reaction when subbed showed discontent and anger towards Harte something we haven't seen from anyone aimed at Harte publicly. Sean Cavanagh has been very critical since leaving the panel, I'd imagine Colm's thought process would be similar. Petey Harte showed frustration punching out. He actually hit out of the ball in the play prior that went un-noticed.

I still expect to make the super 8's but the cracks are appearing. I'm nearly expecting to see a few players leave the panel within the next fortnight.

What happened when oneill came off?? Missed it on TV

GaaFanatic123

Quote from: redhandofgod on May 20, 2018, 08:14:10 PM
Ronan McNamee was absolutely shite today....

You serious, He didnt give McManus a kick of it for 65 minutes!!

sensethetone

Got the feeling Harte didn't want to put RON on.. Mark Bradley was limping, he had got attention twice, at the end he basically took himself off. Nobody was warming up. Tyrone were winning at that stage.

BIGONE

Friday's Irish News - Mickey Harte - "The Cream always rises to the top"
I have news for you Mickey - A turd always floats to the top too.
Now, pack our bags!

Under Lights

Quote from: BIGONE on May 21, 2018, 08:22:49 AM
Friday's Irish News - Mickey Harte - "The Cream always rises to the top"
I have news for you Mickey - A turd always floats to the top too.
Now, pack our bags!

Hi Ronan.

BIGONE

 
Quote from: Under Lights on May 21, 2018, 08:44:19 AM
Quote from: BIGONE on May 21, 2018, 08:22:49 AM
Friday's Irish News - Mickey Harte - "The Cream always rises to the top"
I have news for you Mickey - A turd always floats to the top too.
Now, pack our bags!

Hi Ronan.

;D ;D ;D