Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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Club boi

Quote from: BennyHarp on May 11, 2018, 12:31:19 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 11, 2018, 12:00:24 PM
Thought his comment was fair enough.  Comparisons like this are made throughout each county, when a talented player comes along, e.g. Jamie Clarke – Mc Conville, David Clifford – Gooch.  I think the point he was putting across that the cream of the crop rises during the championship when everything is on the line each game. 

He is right in saying putting up massive scores against a club team mean nothing when your up against a genuine top class defender in Croke Park in August, but is he is wrong in thinking he isn't ready to take the mantle of talisman forward? Time will tell...

Is it good analysis though? Maybe I'm wrong but I'd expect someone of McEntee's experience to be analysing how Tyrone may (or may not) be adapting their offensive strategy from previous seasons to get their forwards more into scoring positions and the role the likes of Lee Brennan will play in this. Rather than making a fairly lazy comparison to Steven O'Neil and the churning out the tired old line about the white heat of championship footballl. I don't need to be a former county player to tell you that Lee currently isn't as good as Stevie or that Clifford may take a few seasons to get to the level of Gooch. But I'd expect a little bit of insight into how are these teams going to use these players in their debut season from someone like McEntee. Lee Brennan could be very effective for Tyrone this summer without ever hitting the heights that O'Neill did.

McEntee is entitled to his opinion just like you are to disagree with him. I would imagine it could benefit Brennan in using it as motivation. And who cares what a former Armagh player thinks. Mugsys comments were more hurtful as he is a Tyrone Leg - End

Fuzzman

#7006
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2018/05/11/news/pomeroy-s-finest-frank-burns-keen-to-make-his-mark-with-tyrone-1325098/

Good article.
Why do people think its taken him a bit longer than the other U21s to come to the fore

Do ye not think it's mind games re McEntee?
He's planting a seed of doubt in his mind and he knows he's got nothing to lose. Id say he didn't put much thought into it to be fair but should Armagh meet Tyroe again this year there will be added pressure on Lee now to perform.

qz

More BS from McEntee in his article "Will Tyrone make home advantage count in Healy Park, Omagh? It was once the most feared fortress in Ireland"

Do any of you recall Omagh ever been a fortress.. love to see the evidence. It's one of my biggest worries for the Monaghan game, having to play it in Omagh.

Dire Ear

Agree with you qz,  Armagh, Dungannon even,  better records I'd have thought

lenny

Quote from: Club boi on May 11, 2018, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 11, 2018, 12:31:19 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 11, 2018, 12:00:24 PM
Thought his comment was fair enough.  Comparisons like this are made throughout each county, when a talented player comes along, e.g. Jamie Clarke – Mc Conville, David Clifford – Gooch.  I think the point he was putting across that the cream of the crop rises during the championship when everything is on the line each game. 

He is right in saying putting up massive scores against a club team mean nothing when your up against a genuine top class defender in Croke Park in August, but is he is wrong in thinking he isn't ready to take the mantle of talisman forward? Time will tell...

Is it good analysis though? Maybe I'm wrong but I'd expect someone of McEntee's experience to be analysing how Tyrone may (or may not) be adapting their offensive strategy from previous seasons to get their forwards more into scoring positions and the role the likes of Lee Brennan will play in this. Rather than making a fairly lazy comparison to Steven O'Neil and the churning out the tired old line about the white heat of championship footballl. I don't need to be a former county player to tell you that Lee currently isn't as good as Stevie or that Clifford may take a few seasons to get to the level of Gooch. But I'd expect a little bit of insight into how are these teams going to use these players in their debut season from someone like McEntee. Lee Brennan could be very effective for Tyrone this summer without ever hitting the heights that O'Neill did.

McEntee is entitled to his opinion just like you are to disagree with him. I would imagine it could benefit Brennan in using it as motivation. And who cares what a former Armagh player thinks. Mugsys comments were more hurtful as he is a Tyrone Leg - End

Lee doesn't need to take or listen to advice/opinions from a man who's driven into the same pothole 3 times in the last month. His column is usually drivel.

RedHand88

Quote from: qz on May 12, 2018, 03:25:12 AM
More BS from McEntee in his article "Will Tyrone make home advantage count in Healy Park, Omagh? It was once the most feared fortress in Ireland"

Do any of you recall Omagh ever been a fortress.. love to see the evidence. It's one of my biggest worries for the Monaghan game, having to play it in Omagh.

Ditto. I'd rather be in Clones.

RedHand88

Quote from: longballin on May 11, 2018, 12:26:20 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 10, 2018, 10:58:18 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 10, 2018, 10:34:35 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 10, 2018, 06:40:09 PM
I think it's fairly lazy of McEntee to be comparing Lee Brennan to Steven O'Neill or suggesting he is taking on that role, he's clearly not in that category at the minute (it doesn't take a football genius to point that out) but he's the best finisher we have got. It's an easy throw away line as a journalist to give a back handed criticism to say a player isn't as good as Steven O'Neill or another great player from their county. There aren't many forwards in the whole of Ireland as good as Stevie, is he going to go through every team in Ulster and say their best forward isn't as good as Steven O'Neill? If Lee kicks 1-5 or 0-6 or 0-8 in games be that from play or frees and doesn't do another thing then as far as I'm concerned it's his job done. I wouldn't be heaping pressure on him to be the next O'Neill but if he does turn into that type of player, what a bonus that would be.

he's hardy a journalist

Pundit then 🙄

former GAA player  8)

Sure we're all one of those.

redzone

Haven't been to see u17 yet but this lad hayes seems to be a strong player at full forward. Killyclogher lad, anybody at the games. We should win ulster again

Bendyerback

Quote from: redzone on May 13, 2018, 08:36:48 AM
Haven't been to see u17 yet but this lad hayes seems to be a strong player at full forward. Killyclogher lad, anybody at the games. We should win ulster again

He is a good one, very strong on the ball. Plays a bit of basket ball as well. He came on in the u17 final last year and scored a goal. He's worth watching.

Ty4Sam

U20's shaping up well this year. Gave a full strength Dublin a tanking in Dublin on Saturday.

Ty4Sam

Friday after the Tyrone match, 25th May, stand alone fixture in Healy park 8pm throw in.

bigpackiechestout

I heard Darragh Canavan isn't playing for the u20's this year and will be concentrating on club minor football instead, can anyone confirm this? If true this is arguably a smart move given he still has two years left at that grade. It will be interesting to see if he plays any part for Errigal seniors as the year progresses. Remember last year they used Peter Og McCartan (the same age then as Canavan is this year) as an impact sub throughout the championship to good effect.

The Golden Years

Quote from: bigpackiechestout on May 14, 2018, 03:22:49 PM
I heard Darragh Canavan isn't playing for the u20's this year and will be concentrating on club minor football instead, can anyone confirm this? If true this is arguably a smart move given he still has two years left at that grade. It will be interesting to see if he plays any part for Errigal seniors as the year progresses. Remember last year they used Peter Og McCartan (the same age then as Canavan is this year) as an impact sub throughout the championship to good effect.
Peter Og was more developed physically.Not sure if young Canavan has the physical build to play senior football yet. 

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: bigpackiechestout on May 14, 2018, 03:22:49 PM
I heard Darragh Canavan isn't playing for the u20's this year and will be concentrating on club minor football instead, can anyone confirm this? If true this is arguably a smart move given he still has two years left at that grade. It will be interesting to see if he plays any part for Errigal seniors as the year progresses. Remember last year they used Peter Og McCartan (the same age then as Canavan is this year) as an impact sub throughout the championship to good effect.

He's playing for them as is.

Jeremiah O

Is there another match on before the senior game this Sunday?
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