Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[The Trap]

Wise up redbone. I have just been a realist for a while and now others, a lot of others are catching up. Obviously you are not there yet and that's fine. I guess a real supporter can put up with anything and I will give you that......you are a real supporter.
I was once like that but now maybe a combination of things mean that I have different priorities.

[BennyHarp]

Clutching at straws here but is there any chance that we could possibly be working on something different in training and it may take a few defeats and a couple of bad performances until we get it right? After all, we have been programmed to play a certain way for a long time now and any change will not come easy.

[jp2020]

Couple of simple observations:
The weather wasnt great and neither was the pitch;
We played with 14men;
No Colm Cav;
McAliskey not fully match sharp;

Now taking this into account no shock we didnt win.

BUT  the simple fact is we are poor to watch! By this time every year we have the Mckenna Cup in the trophy cabinet and that lulls everyone into great sense that this year is  the year and Mickey is thee man! At what stage do those burying their heads pull them out! Tomas Ose got right last night, let the lads play! If we are to get beat at least have a go!

All that said i believe we could beat the dubs in the swamp! And Mickey will get 10yr extension!!

[Club boi]

Couple of simple observations:
The weather wasnt great and neither was the pitch;
We played with 14men;
No Colm Cav;
McAliskey not fully match sharp;

Now taking this into account no shock we didnt win.

BUT  the simple fact is we are poor to watch! By this time every year we have the Mckenna Cup in the trophy cabinet and that lulls everyone into great sense that this year is  the year and Mickey is thee man! At what stage do those burying their heads pull them out! Tomas Ose got right last night, let the lads play! If we are to get beat at least have a go!

All that said i believe we could beat the dubs in the swamp! And Mickey will get 10yr extension!!

The Weather was the same for Galway who ran over the top of our boys
Galway are only promoted
And they played with only half of their starting team
Tyrone were missing 1 Man ffs

[RedHand88]

Clutching at straws here but is there any chance that we could possibly be working on something different in training and it may take a few defeats and a couple of bad performances until we get it right? After all, we have been programmed to play a certain way for a long time now and any change will not come easy.

Stop speaking perfect sense will you.

[ose 14]

lets be rational here. tyrone will win ulster playing ultra conservatively as only maybe donegal have enough firepower fromlongrange to foil the master and his wee conservative crew.thats as good as it gets. now realistically thats a good season with a 47th mckenna in a row to boot. so suck it up and get on with it shite football or not.

[longballin]

In other words Ulster foorball is rubbish

[tyroneman]

Swings and roundabouts folks. We were flying in the early stages of the league last year and the fell apart..I'd be happy enough if we stayed in Div 1, ending up with a settled 15 and a bit more adventure in our play.

It's a long year, no need to panic yet.

[An Watcher]

Just seen mccurrys sending off.  Seemed very harsh.  Saturday nights match takes on more significance now

[driveherin]

Sean Cavanagh should be renamed Jesus Christ - runs about constantly with his arms outstretched, and has done for years!
As for Tyrone -  We are in for another year of it! MH obviously wont let SO'N have any influence (well I hope that's whats happening!)

[LeoMc]

Clutching at straws here but is there any chance that we could possibly be working on something different in training and it may take a few defeats and a couple of bad performances until we get it right? After all, we have been programmed to play a certain way for a long time now and any change will not come easy.

I am hoping that is the case but it will be very difficult to get he balance between giving the defenders responsibility and not exposing them to a roasting. This Saturday has to be our benchmark.

Which 6 defenders would you trust to go man to man on the Dublin forward line?

[BennyHarp]

Clutching at straws here but is there any chance that we could possibly be working on something different in training and it may take a few defeats and a couple of bad performances until we get it right? After all, we have been programmed to play a certain way for a long time now and any change will not come easy.

I am hoping that is the case but it will be very difficult to get he balance between giving the defenders responsibility and not exposing them to a roasting. This Saturday has to be our benchmark.

Which 6 defenders would you trust to go man to man on the Dublin forward line?

I'd probably go with some of the new lads and give them the opportunity to prove whether they are up to it or not - Full back line of McKernan, Hampsey and Cassidy with T McCann, R Brennan (to follow Kilkenny) and possibly HP McGeary. We'd know a fair bit about those lads by 9pm on Saturday evening, though we do run the risk of giving them future nightmares. I would still pull a few men back to support but leave at least 4 in our attacking half - possibly Harte, Sludden, Bradley and maybe McShane. Meyler for me could do a Kilkenny role if given enough game time to develop into the position.

[Fuzzman]

Swings and roundabouts folks. We were flying in the early stages of the league last year and the fell apart..I'd be happy enough if we stayed in Div 1, ending up with a settled 15 and a bit more adventure in our play.

It's a long year, no need to panic yet.

I think its gonna be a very long year indeed so when do you start panicking then TM?
Do you not think we've been at this level now for too long?
I get it that we don't have the players we used to but is the a bigger reason for that?
Is this style of football not not embedded in the Tyrone club scene and youth teams and so we are no longer putting emphasis on attacking play and expressing yourself like players like Canavan, S.ONeill, McGuigans etc.
We are encouraging players to focus more on running and playing the percentages.
Phrases like transition, recycling, possession are now held in higher regards than flair, individualism and skill.

Kerry are still producing players like Clifford, O'Donoghue and Geaney as are the Dubs and we continue playing half backs and half forwards all together as if its the same position and we're told there are no positions any more.

It's plain and simple for me and those who can open their own eyes and not be easily influenced by others that winning ugly is not all its cracked up to be and whilst Tyrone are well capable of winning 3 Ulsters in a row this year, there is just something missing. My kids U11 games should NOT be FAR more entertaining that an intercounty game where the guys are almost professional at this stage.

[longballin]

Sean Cavanagh now saying Tyrone players were "slave to a system" last year. Can no-one speak up before they leave the squad?

[Tyrone Gaa]

Sean Cavanagh now saying Tyrone players were "slave to a system" last year. Can no-one speak up before they leave the squad?

Every man and his dog knows Mickey operates a dictatorship within the camp, it's his way or the highway. Ask Roisin Jordan. If a player steps out of line there gone, or at least that's the perception. I'd love to see that tested. 1 of our key men give an RTE interview for example or miss prayers before games just to see what the punishment is.