Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[Localexpert]

Didn't take Sean Cavanagh long to start talking to rte again after his retirement 

[southtyronegael]

Didn't take Sean Cavanagh long to start talking to rte again after his retirement 

noticed that.seems to be a recurring theme for ex players.meanwhile on BBC mickey says he wont abandon the blanket because of one result.lol. You couldn't make it up.

[longballin]

Didn't take Sean Cavanagh long to start talking to rte again after his retirement 

noticed that too which indicates this ban is being foisted on them...

[Localexpert]

Didn't take Sean Cavanagh long to start talking to rte again after his retirement 

noticed that too which indicates this ban is being foisted on them...

Would certainly seem that way given the fact it took Cavanagh less than 24hrs to end his ban.

Obviously Sean is a high profile player but I would reckon rte jump at the opportunity to interview players as soon as they leave the panel to highlight how quick they talk when they've left the panel... 

[square_ball]

RTE probably lining him up for a gig on the Sunday Game next year.

[driveherin]

Yea some loyalty alright!!! P Jordan was the same....all about the ££££££££

[time ticking away]

Yea some loyalty alright!!! P Jordan was the same....all about the ££££££££

Would that be the same reason why mickey wants to stay on as manager

[blewuporstuffed]

Yea some loyalty alright!!! P Jordan was the same....all about the ££££££££

Do you think after a long inter county career these lads arent entitled to try and make a few quid on the media circuit?

[Tyrone Gaa]

I think if you knew P.Jordan or S.Cavanagh they are both well paid professionals I don't think they need a few quid from RTE to ensure the Mortgage gets paid.  If it was a principled stand on their behalf and not an enforced stance these boys would have no issue maintaining to media ban.  Brian McGuigan id imagine is the same

[WT4E]

Didn't take Sean Cavanagh long to start talking to rte again after his retirement 

noticed that too which indicates this ban is being foisted on them...

Yes very noticeable - heard a rumour that Cavanagh and Harte don't get on anyway and that once Colm retires the book will be no holds barred!

[driveherin]

wise up!!! Doesn't matter how well paid their job is...always want more dough!!!

[Tyrone Gaa]

wise up!!! Doesn't matter how well paid their job is...always want more dough!!!

Absolutely get that point, but what I'm saying is, by them talking to RTE shows that the ban is without any doubt enforced by M.Harte (not a squad decision) its not because these lads have a principled stand themselves or they need a few pound. 

[LeoMc]

Did Mickey not say as much last week. I am paraphrasing but I am fairly sure he said that when players come in he tells them his stance and they "agree" to go along with it.

[bigpackiechestout]

All I'm hearing is talk about the failure of the blanket and how our system is fundamentally flawed - the fact of the matter is that Dublin would have beat us on Sunday regardless of how we set up.

For what it's worth i think our intention was to take the game to Dublin on Sunday - in the first half, every chance we got (ie. when we had a close free kick or had a lot of players pushed up) we pressed up on the Dublin kick out and tried to force a turnover. The problem simply was that Cluxton and Dublin were too good and found their men regardless. In my opinion we were then made to look a lot more defensive than we would have intended to play because the Dubs held on the to ball for so long without taking it into contact (as is their right, and they were smart to do so). This is a major disadvantage of our system and ultimately why it probably can't work against the Dubs or the better teams in Croker.

As a previous poster said I think our lads had a bit of a crisis of confidence, characterised by simple handling errors and terrible decisions on the ball that would never normally happen to us. This was hugely magnified by the concession of the early goal and our heads seemed to be down from that point on. Are our lads as mentally strong as the team from the noughties? One thing that everybody assumed in the build up was that we could match the Dubs for pace and fitness but I was stunned by how much faster and stronger than us they were, and how easily they could turn us over. How many times were our lads soloing up the pitch when a Dublin man would catch up and just strip the ball easily from us.

Going forward, it's hard to look ahead to next year at the moment. Under Mickey Harte Tyrone have always had the belief that they could challenge for All-Irelands, and because of this, in the past  couple of years especially, we have had the luxury of being able to call upon the best players in the county. Several other counties in Ulster have struggled to field their best teams because players aren't willing to commit without the prospect of success. Although I hope it's not the case, after the hiding we received on Sunday, and considering the time and commitment our lads put in, it would be understandable if some of them felt they couldn't commit to that again for another couple of years if we are so far off the Dubs and didn't have a realistic prospect of All-Ireland success.

Although, as Philly Jordan said in his RTE column, we could just as easily have drawn Mayo or Kerry in the semi final, beat them and regardless of what happened in the Final we would be being talked about as the second best team in Ireland. And as Jim McGuiness said today in his column, Tyrone only performed to about 25% of their ability on Sunday, so whilst the Dubs are the better team, I don't believe they are as superior as the match suggested. Of our top men, realistically we will only lose Sean and possibly Justy, so if we can introduce a style of play more conducive to bringing the best out of Bradley, Lee Brennan etc and build through the League next year, then all should not be lost. TYRONE ABU!

[Club boi]

All I'm hearing is talk about the failure of the blanket and how our system is fundamentally flawed - the fact of the matter is that Dublin would have beat us on Sunday regardless of how we set up.

For what it's worth i think our intention was to take the game to Dublin on Sunday - in the first half, every chance we got (ie. when we had a close free kick or had a lot of players pushed up) we pressed up on the Dublin kick out and tried to force a turnover. The problem simply was that Cluxton and Dublin were too good and found their men regardless. In my opinion we were then made to look a lot more defensive than we would have intended to play because the Dubs held on the to ball for so long without taking it into contact (as is their right, and they were smart to do so). This is a major disadvantage of our system and ultimately why it probably can't work against the Dubs or the better teams in Croker.

As a previous poster said I think our lads had a bit of a crisis of confidence, characterised by simple handling errors and terrible decisions on the ball that would never normally happen to us. This was hugely magnified by the concession of the early goal and our heads seemed to be down from that point on. Are our lads as mentally strong as the team from the noughties? One thing that everybody assumed in the build up was that we could match the Dubs for pace and fitness but I was stunned by how much faster and stronger than us they were, and how easily they could turn us over. How many times were our lads soloing up the pitch when a Dublin man would catch up and just strip the ball easily from us.

Going forward, it's hard to look ahead to next year at the moment. Under Mickey Harte Tyrone have always had the belief that they could challenge for All-Irelands, and because of this, in the past  couple of years especially, we have had the luxury of being able to call upon the best players in the county. Several other counties in Ulster have struggled to field their best teams because players aren't willing to commit without the prospect of success. Although I hope it's not the case, after the hiding we received on Sunday, and considering the time and commitment our lads put in, it would be understandable if some of them felt they couldn't commit to that again for another couple of years if we are so far off the Dubs and didn't have a realistic prospect of All-Ireland success.

Although, as Philly Jordan said in his RTE column, we could just as easily have drawn Mayo or Kerry in the semi final, beat them and regardless of what happened in the Final we would be being talked about as the second best team in Ireland. And as Jim McGuiness said today in his column, Tyrone only performed to about 25% of their ability on Sunday, so whilst the Dubs are the better team, I don't believe they are as superior as the match suggested. Of our top men, realistically we will only lose Sean and possibly Justy, so if we can introduce a style of play more conducive to bringing the best out of Bradley, Lee Brennan etc and build through the League next year, then all should not be lost. TYRONE ABU!

Dublin would have beat us on Sunday regardless of how we set up - But does it not anger you that Tyrone didnt even "have a go"?? Even when getting beat they stayed in their defensive shell. It was laughably embarrassing

More defensive - lol. We looked "more defensive" because we were ultra defensive, 14 men back, 1 forward. Same as Mayo last year. Harte's "system" isnt workable when Tyrone go behind. If they get in front all well and good they will suck the life out of lesser teams and hit them on the counter

Dubs held on the to ball for so long without taking it into contact - Because we let them showboat and get cheers from their own supporters for fist passing the ball 4 million times around the midfield with nobody pushing up and attempting a tackle

Early goal - see above point about the "system", Tyrone cant dictate the game from behind, early goal a sucker punch and they never recovered

Faster and stronger than us they were - They are virtually a professional outfit. I believe we have equally as good a footballers if they were allowed to play football

Introduce a style of play more conducive - This is all the fans are asking for. 2 years on the trot now Tyrone have been found out in Croke Park against the big boys playing this defensive cr@p that turns many people off them. Mayo went for the replay against Kerry and came out on top, possibly shocking Kerry with their tactics and gameplan. EVERYONE knew what Tyrone were going to do and how they were going to set up which made it easy to plan against

Joe Brolley is right. Football is the winner with these 2 finalists because they play football. The sooner this Donegal and now Tyrone Defensive sh!te leaves the better. Bring back football