Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[rrhf]

What I seen in Kerry was very dispiriting. Not enough has changed from the mayo game, although there was a conventional forward set up which was new but needs lots of work and a return to long ball at times which was unnatural for some. The body language of certain players and arguing was embarrassing. I hear  that Mickeys backroom team has pushed this defensive strategy too far and unfortunately Mickey may well be in his last year unless he can reverse 2 years of this approach in a few weeks. Hate to say it but we lack a game plan that works against decent teams. Unless he gets to a final An end of an era, but what a great era it was and his legend is amazing.   

[southtyronegael]

What I seen in Kerry was very dispiriting. Not enough has changed from the mayo game, although there was a conventional forward set up which was new but needs lots of work and a return to long ball at times which was unnatural for some. The body language of certain players and arguing was embarrassing. I hear  that Mickeys backroom team has pushed this defensive strategy too far and unfortunately Mickey may well be in his last year unless he can reverse 2 years of this approach in a few weeks. Hate to say it but we lack a game plan that works against decent teams. Unless he gets to a final An end of an era, but what a great era it was and his legend is amazing.

'mickeys backroom team'? so its gavin devlins fault not mickeys?

[rrhf]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

[southtyronegael]

who is mickeys backroom team and why would it be them pushing this ultra defensive football? does mickey not have a say anymore?

[teaminamillion]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy. 

[seanmc123]

On page 70 of todays Irish news Mickey Harte states"our players set out to be ready they set out to challenge everything, every ball." Now I wasn't in Killarney or seen much footage of the game but by going by what he has said, Tyrone players must have pressed on the Kerry kick out and every other sector on the pitch. Can someone clarify this or is Harte talking more spoof, bluster and bullshit??

You were not at the game, your not a true fan

f**k off back to the hole you crawled out off

[rrhf]

Haven't been on the board in a while but some of the criticism on here is irrational and personal and possibly coming with an agenda. Either critique fairly or stay quiet.

[BennyHarp]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy.

No he didn't, he scored two points. One of which would be classified as a magnificent long range point. So you have one misinformed fact about this player and are using it as another swipe. There could be a million and one reasons why Plunkett didn't make it in the end. Player development is a lot more complicated that just, oh, well he kicked 3 points (when he actually kicked two) one day so he should be in the squad.

[teaminamillion]

On page 70 of todays Irish news Mickey Harte states"our players set out to be ready they set out to challenge everything, every ball." Now I wasn't in Killarney or seen much footage of the game but by going by what he has said, Tyrone players must have pressed on the Kerry kick out and every other sector on the pitch. Can someone clarify this or is Harte talking more spoof, bluster and bullshit??

You were not at the game, your not a true fan

f**k off back to the hole you crawled out off

how could you be a fan of that. I support Tyrone not Mickey Harte and the end is near. Some people just don't like to hear the truth ha ha.

[teaminamillion]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy.

No he didn't, he scored two points. One of which would be classified as a magnificent long range point. So you have one misinformed fact about this player and are using it as another swipe. There could be a million and one reasons why Plunkett didn't make it in the end. Player development is a lot more complicated that just, oh, well he kicked 3 points (when he actually kicked two) one day so he should be in the squad.

oh sorry two points but one was a magnificent long range winner against the dubs which can't be snuffed at! We won't fall out over one point Benny. You seem to me missing the point I'm trying to make, in that Mickey Harte should stop using our beloved Tyrone as his celebrity platform.

[southtyronegael]

Teaminamillion, stop giving mickey a hard time. Apparently its the 'backroom team' that has us playing shite negative football.

[teaminamillion]

Teaminamillion, stop giving mickey a hard time. Apparently its the 'backroom team' that has us playing shite negative football.

maybe Mickey should freshen up the backroom team with a can of "fabreze summer fresh" in the dressing room.

[BennyHarp]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy.

No he didn't, he scored two points. One of which would be classified as a magnificent long range point. So you have one misinformed fact about this player and are using it as another swipe. There could be a million and one reasons why Plunkett didn't make it in the end. Player development is a lot more complicated that just, oh, well he kicked 3 points (when he actually kicked two) one day so he should be in the squad.

oh sorry two points but one was a magnificent long range winner against the dubs which can't be snuffed at! We won't fall out over one point Benny. You seem to me missing the point I'm trying to make, in that Mickey Harte should stop using our beloved Tyrone as his celebrity platform.

It's about taking one game or one incident and using it as proof that Mickey isn't developing players. It's the rose tinted approach that keeps popping up here regarding Raymond Mulgrew, Kyle Coney etc. People refer to Coney v Cork, great performance as it was, he never really did it consistently over 3 or 4 years that he was on the panel. People like yourself adding little untruths to your rose tinted glasses analysis is unhelpful too and no doubt you've regaled the Kane kicked 3 magnificent points v Dublin story many times to your mates in your disgust at him not still being on the panel, but the truth is that he did fairly well that day but like Coney didn't really kick on.

Our recent position has got supporters in a bit of a mix of emotions. Some, like yourself,  feel that due to our success in the 2000s that we have a right to win All Irelands every year and anything else is a failure, playing an open and expansive style of football which is fair enough. Others look at past AI champions like Armagh, Meath, Galway, Cork, Derry, Down etc and think we have been doing well in recent years to remain competitive when you see what can happen if your eye is taken off the ball. I've had plenty of debates with my mates about the way we play and the selection policy etc and maybe we do need a new voice at the end of this year but what I have been objecting to mainly on here is the level of personal abuse thrown at Mickey by a few (maybe all the same) people which is just beyond football and stinks of personal agendas.

[BennyHarp]

Teaminamillion, stop giving mickey a hard time. Apparently its the 'backroom team' that has us playing shite negative football.

maybe Mickey should freshen up the backroom team with a can of "fabreze summer fresh" in the dressing room.

Very efficient switching of profiles - well done lad!   

[sensethetone]

Will Ronan McNamee's hand injury be healed up for the championship?