Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[southtyronegael]

Ah feck went to Omagh yesterday it what proved to be a very frustrating day... i do think the players are not playing for the management due to the system i could be wrong but the body language of at least 5/6 players yesterday was poor.... i was asked last night would a new management team bring anything different... i really do think for talk sake if Malachy ORourke was the Tyrone manager we would be playing a different system that possibly would suit the type of players we currently have... this current system is not working and wont work if 5/6 players seem not to be playing it....

What different system do Monaghan operate than Tyrone? They track back in numbers and play a very similar game. It could be argued that with possibly the best forward in Ireland up front in McManus that Harte would actually get more out of the Monaghan team than they are currently getting. The one thing that has consistently beat Tyrone is not taking chances and missing frees.

how the f**k would harte get more out of the monaghan team? we have all ireland winners at every level on our team and they are playing shite. id say if o rourke had the tyrone team hed have an all ireland won by now. o rourke has been fantastic at maximising his limited resources.

[In hiding]

Ah feck went to Omagh yesterday it what proved to be a very frustrating day... i do think the players are not playing for the management due to the system i could be wrong but the body language of at least 5/6 players yesterday was poor.... i was asked last night would a new management team bring anything different... i really do think for talk sake if Malachy ORourke was the Tyrone manager we would be playing a different system that possibly would suit the type of players we currently have... this current system is not working and wont work if 5/6 players seem not to be playing it....

What different system do Monaghan operate than Tyrone? They track back in numbers and play a very similar game. It could be argued that with possibly the best forward in Ireland up front in McManus that Harte would actually get more out of the Monaghan team than they are currently getting. The one thing that has consistently beat Tyrone is not taking chances and missing frees.

Monaghan play with two forwards. Mc Manus has been average at best so far this year. Jack Mc Carron seems to be their main scoring threat in the league so far.
lol your probably right, Mickey would get more out of Monaghan than Malachy O Rourke. 

[ONeill]

When you talk about pushing up on kick-outs...that's well and good, and Tyrone do spend a spell doing that, but as soon as it doesn't work it's panic stations. There's no confidence in the defence to leave them 6 on 6.

Did Tiernan McCann try to chip a keeper who was on his line in the first half? It's these silly in-game decisions that cost them. We were used to lads like O'Neill and Mulligan putting everything over. Also, late in the second, who went through and fisted the ball across the box to no one?

[teaminamillion]

I can safely say this year even at this stage is a write off already. By the time Harte s gone it will be 2018 which will be nearly a full three years since the promise of 2015. The defeat against Kerry in Croker that year showed the same problems we have now. It was a grave mistake to give Harte a deal at that time as I said then and have been proven correct since. As a coach in the modern game he is just bloody clueless not like the old days when all a manager had to do was pick the team. Big Sean's. Tyrone career will finish in a wimper when it could have been so different.

[southtyronegael]

in the 2015 q final against monaghan our full forward line scored 12 points between them. mc curry 6, mc aliskey 5 and s cavanagh 1. we have went backwards bigtime and will continue backwards until someone has the balls to end this charade of a management team. im glad to see so many people on here now waking up to this fact. people shouldnt be afraid to say what they feel about harte and co any more. our great county is more important.

[Goals_Will_Come]

When you talk about pushing up on kick-outs...that's well and good, and Tyrone do spend a spell doing that, but as soon as it doesn't work it's panic stations. There's no confidence in the defence to leave them 6 on 6.

Did Tiernan McCann try to chip a keeper who was on his line in the first half? It's these silly in-game decisions that cost them. We were used to lads like O'Neill and Mulligan putting everything over. Also, late in the second, who went through and fisted the ball across the box to no one?

McShane

[teaminamillion]

in the 2015 q final against monaghan our full forward line scored 12 points between them. mc curry 6, mc aliskey 5 and s cavanagh 1. we have went backwards bigtime and will continue backwards until someone has the balls to end this charade of a management team. im glad to see so many people on here now waking up to this fact. people shouldnt be afraid to say what they feel about harte and co any more. our great county is more important.

remember that game well, when Peter Canavan at the final whistle was in the sky studio he said in a self righteous moment of madness 'Where's all the Mickey Harte critics now?'. Lol. We haven't gone away you know!

[southtyronegael]

lol. i think theres more of them around now than ever!

[teaminamillion]

It's not been a great league campaign for Mattie alright.
I often get frustrated he's not much more influential in matches. Maybe I expect to much from him.

Why did he throw the punch at the end at O'Shea?

discipline has been terrible since Brian mcguigan got sent off v Kerry back in 2012. It was never a problem back in the noughties were now player frustrations at the whole set up are their for the whole world to see. Does Harte even talk to his players ie "Matty maybe you shouldn't go round punching people or getting involved?" Shambolic coach an shambolic management or maybe Gavin Devlin is the head of team discipline??lol

[seanmc123]

When you talk about pushing up on kick-outs...that's well and good, and Tyrone do spend a spell doing that, but as soon as it doesn't work it's panic stations. There's no confidence in the defence to leave them 6 on 6.

Did Tiernan McCann try to chip a keeper who was on his line in the first half? It's these silly in-game decisions that cost them. We were used to lads like O'Neill and Mulligan putting everything over. Also, late in the second, who went through and fisted the ball across the box to no one?

Please tell me a team in Ireland that leaves 6 on 6 at the back. Get your head out of the sand you fool

[Redhand Santa]

Ah feck went to Omagh yesterday it what proved to be a very frustrating day... i do think the players are not playing for the management due to the system i could be wrong but the body language of at least 5/6 players yesterday was poor.... i was asked last night would a new management team bring anything different... i really do think for talk sake if Malachy ORourke was the Tyrone manager we would be playing a different system that possibly would suit the type of players we currently have... this current system is not working and wont work if 5/6 players seem not to be playing it....

What different system do Monaghan operate than Tyrone? They track back in numbers and play a very similar game. It could be argued that with possibly the best forward in Ireland up front in McManus that Harte would actually get more out of the Monaghan team than they are currently getting. The one thing that has consistently beat Tyrone is not taking chances and missing frees.

how the f**k would harte get more out of the monaghan team? we have all ireland winners at every level on our team and they are playing shite. id say if o rourke had the tyrone team hed have an all ireland won by now. o rourke has been fantastic at maximising his limited resources.

Sure according to you lads everything is down to our system and little to do with the players. The system is very effective as we regularly get more chances than other teams and keep them to a relatively low score. Our only problem is score conversion particularly from frees. So if Harte could get the Monaghan players playing the system we do and had McManus taking the frees and converting chances they'd be hard to stop.

[Legoman5]

Mattie Donnelly frustrates the hell out of me! Constantly walking about with his chest out and flexing his biceps. Slows the play down too much and runs down blind alleyways, losing the ball on too many occasions!

Hmm singling out one player for losing balls and running down blind alleyways when majority of the team are at it? You seem to have a personal vendetta against Mattie when you bring personal appearance into it!!
I could safely say come championship time Mattie will do what he's done this past few years consistently and continue to be one of our top performers..

[Legoman5]

Very disappointing. The scary thing as people have pointed out is we do not seem have learnt, changed or brought anything new to the table since AI semi last year.

I don't care what the situation is harte should go with lee brennan now. McCurry has had far nore shots than he ever should have got. Brennan may not be the answer but mc curry certainly isn't.

The panic when a free was missed to start chopping and changing the kicker must ruin their confidence. why did mc curry hit a 45 then morgan come up and hit one just after. Just go short and work it in! We seem to do it with every other aspect of our game.

I def dont think the time is right for Brennan or near it, I watched the U21's matches and all the McKenna cup games and he's been too quie and just looks like a player short on confidence! He needs a good year imo away from the County set up and gain more club football experience, Mattie done it at that age and also Niall Sludden asked Mickey for that extra year at club football after he broke the leg, he's gota get that confidence back and back playin football week in week out!

[tc_manchester]

The difference in winning and losing that match on Sunday was a freetaker. Mayo have one who is consistent. We do not. We know that we've had this problem for more then 3 years but it still had not been rectified. Christ we went back to Morgan hitting the 50s again. Given the system we're playing we should be able to carry a player whose main reason to be on the field is for the frees. We had it in 80s with Micky Mallon. I'm really starting to lose my patience with Micky Harte. Another perfect example is Mattie Donnelly. He plays him in full forward in three night matches where the wind is blowing a gale and it's pissing down. The first day when it's like summer conditions with a good pitch he's back out in the middle. It makes absolutely no sense

[In hiding]

When you talk about pushing up on kick-outs...that's well and good, and Tyrone do spend a spell doing that, but as soon as it doesn't work it's panic stations. There's no confidence in the defence to leave them 6 on 6.

Did Tiernan McCann try to chip a keeper who was on his line in the first half? It's these silly in-game decisions that cost them. We were used to lads like O'Neill and Mulligan putting everything over. Also, late in the second, who went through and fisted the ball across the box to no one?

Please tell me a team in Ireland that leaves 6 on 6 at the back. Get your head out of the sand you fool

I always seem to disagree with you but if you cannot go 6 v 6 at the back for 10 seconds so as not to allow your opposition easy possession from their kickout then we must have terrible defenders. If you lose the kickout then a foul/half foul in the middle of the pitch gives you an opportunity to get someone back to cover. It's not rocket science