Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[southtyronegael]

Ronan o Neill was a star ai winning minor and has 2 o Neill cups for his club and mickey still cant make a county footballer out of him. Says more about the type of coach Harte is than blaming Ronan.

[TyroneOnlooker]

Yawn.....the anti-harte posts really do get boring.

[bigtogs]

I am not taking a pop at Ronan O'Neill he obviously struggles with his condition..... but what i do find hard to believe after 5/6 years on a county panel he continually seems very rarely in the correct condition to play at this level.....

 

[southtyronegael]

Conan grugan, omagh. Shea mc guigan Ardboe

[bigpackiechestout]

Conan grugan, omagh. Shea mc guigan Ardboe

Connor O'Donnell was the best player by a distance in the Tyrone Club Championship last year and would have been worth a go this season I reckon.

However by and large we have the best players in Tyrone on the panel and while the lads that have been mentioned are definitely as good as some current panel members, none of them would be certain starters or make too much of an impact in my opinion.

[trailer]

We've a few real class acts Niall Sludden, Colm Cavanagh, Mattie Donnelly. But after that we have just ordinary footballers who could be interchanged without noticing any difference in the team. If we've designs on winning anything this year you'd want 10+ of the other squad members upping their performance levels significantly.
Dunno if Harte is the problem or not. Perhaps he's getting the best out of what he has at his disposal.

[toby47]

Slightly off topic and random but I was having a discussion with two Tyrone men in work today.

Who would you say is the best 3 footballers currently on the Tyrone panel?

I went for 1) Colm Cavanagh 2) Peter Harte and 3) Niall Sludden



I was surprised none of the other two had Peter Harte in their top 3.

[Knock Yer Mucker In]

Heard mc namee and mark Bradley have fell out of favour with mickey. Both caught boozing after one of the Wednesday sigerson games.

Caught? I know Sparky looks young but he's of age. Was Mickey hiding in the bushes/back of the Hatfield or something? Is it a team of monks he wants? Lord help them, training ground fodder 2018 if you get on the wrong side of the Godly one.

Wouldn't be hard to catch, its all over the different forms of social media some of the house parties being held after UUJ victories.  I say fair play to the lads, there students enjoy these days, savour the victories.  If you cant enjoy the big victories why play football?

Here here!!

[Knock Yer Mucker In]

We've a few real class acts Niall Sludden, Colm Cavanagh, Mattie Donnelly. But after that we have just ordinary footballers who could be interchanged without noticing any difference in the team. If we've designs on winning anything this year you'd want 10+ of the other squad members upping their performance levels significantly.
Dunno if Harte is the problem or not. Perhaps he's getting the best out of what he has at his disposal.

100% correct, that is essentially the problem, there is not one forward outside of Bradley we would fear playing a club championship game, and were no big shakes. when you go back 10/15 years and think that you could have SON, Canavan, Cavanagh, Mulligan Calvin, each would have scared the shite out of ya, and that's the bottom line.

[BennyHarp]

We've a few real class acts Niall Sludden, Colm Cavanagh, Mattie Donnelly. But after that we have just ordinary footballers who could be interchanged without noticing any difference in the team. If we've designs on winning anything this year you'd want 10+ of the other squad members upping their performance levels significantly.
Dunno if Harte is the problem or not. Perhaps he's getting the best out of what he has at his disposal.

100% correct, that is essentially the problem, there is not one forward outside of Bradley we would fear playing a club championship game, and were no big shakes. when you go back 10/15 years and think that you could have SON, Canavan, Cavanagh, Mulligan Calvin, each would have scared the shite out of ya, and that's the bottom line.

So is back to back Ulster's and regular AI semi final appearances a decent return for a squad devoid of really top class forwards? It does suggest maybe Mickey has looked closely at the squad and decided we were never going to go toe to toe with Dublin and Kerry like we did 10 years ago.

[bigpackiechestout]

Conan grugan, omagh. Shea mc guigan Ardboe

So basically these 2 men are the missing links that will lead us to the Holy grail. Lord God
Both have been road tested at county level. Grugan whilst being stylish on the ball is both lazy & passive, was bullied round the field by old man Clerkin when he got his start.
McGuigan I'd have more time for but the great white hope of another Brian emerging to the scene raised the expectancy levels Shea didn't deliver & he left the Tyrone panel eith a few more easties to wash cars.

Someone also mentioned O'Donnell, great championship last year & happy for the kid after all that happened but manys a man had good club championships but wouldnt be near a county squad - in 2016 Dan McNulty was the man & there are countless numbers of examples of players having good tournament games but long term won't make the cut. Toto Schillachi's alot of them unfortunately.

A'la Sven Goran Erikson and Walcott in '06, maybe Mickey might call up Darragh Canavan ahead of the Championship!

[In hiding]

We've a few real class acts Niall Sludden, Colm Cavanagh, Mattie Donnelly. But after that we have just ordinary footballers who could be interchanged without noticing any difference in the team. If we've designs on winning anything this year you'd want 10+ of the other squad members upping their performance levels significantly.
Dunno if Harte is the problem or not. Perhaps he's getting the best out of what he has at his disposal.

I can smell another plant

[trailer]

We've a few real class acts Niall Sludden, Colm Cavanagh, Mattie Donnelly. But after that we have just ordinary footballers who could be interchanged without noticing any difference in the team. If we've designs on winning anything this year you'd want 10+ of the other squad members upping their performance levels significantly.
Dunno if Harte is the problem or not. Perhaps he's getting the best out of what he has at his disposal.

I can smell another plant

Sorry but I'm a genuine contributor.

[GetOverTheBar]

You can say what you want about Ronan O'Neill but he has scored some vital goals in his career for both club and county.  Conditioning wise he was probably in better nick last year but its early days as far as championship is concerned. O'Neill still possesses a ruthless streak in front of goal when the opportunity presents itself.

Could any of the contributors to this site name a player or players playing club football in Tyrone that are capable of making the grade on this present County squad.  I can only think of one - Johnny Munroe (who opted out for personal Carmen reasons).

It's less a case of him being out of shape, Tyrone won't be judged on the league - they are past that stage of their development (even though I did state earlier they could be relegated). O'Neill and Tyrone themselves will be well ready for the real action in May.

I'd say O'Neill weight 'gain' is entirely thought out with the intention of losing whatever excess there might be/appear to be in the next 4-6 weeks.

Still all very early in 2018 as yet. Nobody has played their hand yet.

[Club boi]

You can say what you want about Ronan O'Neill but he has scored some vital goals in his career for both club and county.  Conditioning wise he was probably in better nick last year but its early days as far as championship is concerned. O'Neill still possesses a ruthless streak in front of goal when the opportunity presents itself.

Could any of the contributors to this site name a player or players playing club football in Tyrone that are capable of making the grade on this present County squad.  I can only think of one - Johnny Munroe (who opted out for personal Carmen reasons).

It's less a case of him being out of shape, Tyrone won't be judged on the league - they are past that stage of their development (even though I did state earlier they could be relegated). O'Neill and Tyrone themselves will be well ready for the real action in May.

I'd say O'Neill weight 'gain' is entirely thought out with the intention of losing whatever excess there might be/appear to be in the next 4-6 weeks.

Still all very early in 2018 as yet. Nobody has played their hand yet.

Correct, Dublin have played half a team, Donegal blooding in new players, Kerry playing with a pile of youngsters but Tyrone - Full Out bar CC and cant win a game

Long year ahead