Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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southtyronegael

im sure whoever the new manager is will be told that our gameplan needs to evolve to more attacking. the top teams have evolved but we and ulster in general have been left behind. and im not sure mickey can evolve at this stage.

The Golden Years

IMO Harte got lucky with the group of players that all came through at the same time. His record at minor level wasn't great till they came along. He took the Same players to u21 success and then on to seniors. He hasn't had nearly the same success since which suggest to me it was players who were the main catalyst for the all Ireland wins and not the manager. I honestly think a dog in the street could have led that group to them all Ireland wins.

RedHand88

Quote from: southtyronegael on September 03, 2017, 10:07:33 AM
im sure whoever the new manager is will be told that our gameplan needs to evolve to more attacking. the top teams have evolved but we and ulster in general have been left behind. and im not sure mickey can evolve at this stage.

Is it not up to the manager to employ whatever tactics he wants? What would a bunch of men on the county board know about tactics?

Also don't agree that Ulster gas been "left behind"
3 out of the last 8.
5 out of the last 12.

southtyronegael

#4743
yeah but i dont think there are any ulster teams within an asses roar of an all ireland. not even close to gettin to a final.

Tyrone Gaa

This past week I've been in limbo regarding the future of the Tyrone manager.  Weighed up the arguments but now I'm firmly in the Micky out camp.

I've heard (open to correction) that he is meeting with the county panel to begin plans for next year on Monday before the vote has taken place on Tuesday on an extra term.  The arrogance of this is unbelievable if true.  I'll be forever grateful for the success brought in the noughties.

Id expect that club delegates have been given their instructions by clubs ahead of Tuesday nights vote or discussion.  I hope the delegates aren't just acting on their own opinions and the decision is made without wider consultation.  I'd also be interested in the opinion of the current county players regarding their faith in the management system.

Saying all this, I can't give you a name of the person who I'd like to take Tyrone forward, I just feel Micky has delivered all he can for the county.
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southtyronegael

is the actual vote on hartes future on tuesday night? have clubs been consulted about this?

Over the Bar

Quote from: southtyronegael on September 04, 2017, 12:51:32 PM
is the actual vote on hartes future on tuesday night? have clubs been consulted about this?

1 year extension is already agreed so no need to consult clubs.  Will be ratified tomorrow night.

tyroneStatto

Quote from: Over the Bar on September 04, 2017, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on September 04, 2017, 12:51:32 PM
is the actual vote on hartes future on tuesday night? have clubs been consulted about this?

1 year extension is already agreed so no need to consult clubs.  Will be ratified tomorrow night.

hope you are joking!

Over the Bar

Quote from: clarshack on September 04, 2017, 01:10:19 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 04, 2017, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on September 04, 2017, 12:51:32 PM
is the actual vote on hartes future on tuesday night? have clubs been consulted about this?

1 year extension is already agreed so no need to consult clubs.  Will be ratified tomorrow night.

hope you are joking!

I'm not and it was decided 3 weeks ago.  So you think back to back Ulsters and an AI semifinal appearance doesn't warrant another crack?

southtyronegael

i think over the bar is on the windup lads.

omagh_gael

I still think Mickey is the man to lead the county for another year, as long as there is a slight change to a more attack focused system. The reality is there are no standout alternatives out there at the minute and most would implement a much similar system. .

One player, not in the squad at the minute, who may make a difference is McNulty from Clonoe. Have these bridges been burned, however? He may not be the most prolific scorer out there but he has the build we are missing in our forward unit.

redhandefender

Quote from: omagh_gael on September 04, 2017, 01:47:57 PM
I still think Mickey is the man to lead the county for another year, as long as there is a slight change to a more attack focused system. The reality is there are no standout alternatives out there at the minute and most would implement a much similar system. .

One player, not in the squad at the minute, who may make a difference is McNulty from Clonoe. Have these bridges been burned, however? He may not be the most prolific scorer out there but he has the build we are missing in our forward unit.

Administrators can't ask a manager to stay on and dictate what style of football he plays. That would never happen. I think he has done enough to warrant another year. Its a tough situation I think a new voice could be needed but he will never walk and if he was ousted a) we would be torn to pieces nationwide and b) no one with a connection to him would take the job! also you would really want to be in a position where someone is putting their hand up for the post. Paddy Tally probably has but the style of football would be the same which seems to be the crux of why people want him out.

McNulty has no interest in commiting to that level for a year, nothing to do with a fall out

Redhand Santa

Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on September 04, 2017, 11:38:12 AM
This past week I've been in limbo regarding the future of the Tyrone manager.  Weighed up the arguments but now I'm firmly in the Micky out camp.

I've heard (open to correction) that he is meeting with the county panel to begin plans for next year on Monday before the vote has taken place on Tuesday on an extra term.  The arrogance of this is unbelievable if true.  I'll be forever grateful for the success brought in the noughties.

Id expect that club delegates have been given their instructions by clubs ahead of Tuesday nights vote or discussion.  I hope the delegates aren't just acting on their own opinions and the decision is made without wider consultation.  I'd also be interested in the opinion of the current county players regarding their faith in the management system.

Saying all this, I can't give you a name of the person who I'd like to take Tyrone forward, I just feel Micky has delivered all he can for the county.

I'm not sure if you are correct or not on the above but Harte meets the players at the end of every season. I think its a review of the year and closure on it. I'm not saying next year isn't mentioned or wont be mentioned but as far as I know that's what the meeting is about. I'm sure he hasn't picked a panel for next year or anything yet so although there may be some mention of next year the main focus will be on the 2017 season.

southtyronegael

Omaghgael, we said the same thing last year,regarding tactics' and style of play. Nothing changed and we've lost another year. We obviosly need a change of direction and I don't see how giving Harte one more year can achieve that. We need to be thinkin about the next 3-5 years and plan accordingly.

Tyrone Gaa

Quote from: southtyronegael on September 04, 2017, 12:51:32 PM
is the actual vote on hartes future on tuesday night? have clubs been consulted about this?

Actually not sure, I was assuming something like this would need to be tied up at the earliest opportunity to allow either time to find a replacement or for Mickey to begin scouting the championships for 2018.

I would expect some sort of decision to be made Tuesday night.  So if you are a Harte IN or Harte OUT it maybe worthwhile contacting your club delegate  :D  Regarding a decision already being made that can't be the case, a recommendation can be made but there isn't a decision until its voted on by delegates.
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