Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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GaaGPT

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Quote from: An Watcher on June 05, 2024, 09:12:27 AMIs there an argument to try and rest up this weekend?  We're facing 3 battles in a very short period of time with the last one being up against a fresh kerry,dublin or armagh/galway. 

Take the foot off the pedal, focus on an away game the following week.  Or, go hell for leather this weekend and chances are, still end up in second place.

Just thinking of that debacle last year against kerry
Likely we will rest up this weekend and play cork next weekend :)

An Watcher


Goals_Will_Come

Given the most likely scenario this weekend is still second or third regardless of result as Donegal should beat Clare with plenty to spare, management should use the game to build the fitness of Harte, Burns, Oguz, Kilpatrick and give extended game time to O'Hare. I would also stick with Clarke who had a good game against Clare and stick with Ruairi Canavan whos confidence will surely improve with 70 minutes under his belt and a few good scores late on. Having 20 odd players in good condition and competing should have us in reasonable shape for Prelim QF and Quarter Finals.
Morgan; Clarke Hampsey McKernan; O'Hare Donnelly Harte, Kennedy Kilpatrick; Burns Oguz O'Donnell/Daly; McCurry D Canavan R Canavan. Still leaves Devlin, Daly/O'Donnell, McGeary, McShane, C Quinn, M O'Neill.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 05, 2024, 01:29:39 PMGiven the most likely scenario this weekend is still second or third regardless of result as Donegal should beat Clare with plenty to spare, management should use the game to build the fitness of Harte, Burns, Oguz, Kilpatrick and give extended game time to O'Hare. I would also stick with Clarke who had a good game against Clare and stick with Ruairi Canavan whos confidence will surely improve with 70 minutes under his belt and a few good scores late on. Having 20 odd players in good condition and competing should have us in reasonable shape for Prelim QF and Quarter Finals.
Morgan; Clarke Hampsey McKernan; O'Hare Donnelly Harte, Kennedy Kilpatrick; Burns Oguz O'Donnell/Daly; McCurry D Canavan R Canavan. Still leaves Devlin, Daly/O'Donnell, McGeary, McShane, C Quinn, M O'Neill.
Cork will be formidable opposition and if I'm correct, second place gets home advantage against third place team in next round so be best to beat Cork.. for that reason I wouldn't be putting Niall Devlin (MOM on Sunday) on the bench.

tiempo

How many more times this season or decade (you choose) do we think we'll see Aidan Clarke assist a goal for Niall Devlin?

Truthsayer

Quote from: tiempo on June 05, 2024, 02:44:08 PMHow many more times this season or decade (you choose) do we think we'll see Aidan Clarke assist a goal for Niall Devlin?
When your corner back scores 2-2 out of a total of 2-3 in the first half maybe the changes need to be made further up the field.

WesternT

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 05, 2024, 01:29:39 PMGiven the most likely scenario this weekend is still second or third regardless of result as Donegal should beat Clare with plenty to spare, management should use the game to build the fitness of Harte, Burns, Oguz, Kilpatrick and give extended game time to O'Hare. I would also stick with Clarke who had a good game against Clare and stick with Ruairi Canavan whos confidence will surely improve with 70 minutes under his belt and a few good scores late on. Having 20 odd players in good condition and competing should have us in reasonable shape for Prelim QF and Quarter Finals.
Morgan; Clarke Hampsey McKernan; O'Hare Donnelly Harte, Kennedy Kilpatrick; Burns Oguz O'Donnell/Daly; McCurry D Canavan R Canavan. Still leaves Devlin, Daly/O'Donnell, McGeary, McShane, C Quinn, M O'Neill.
Goodman putting O'Hare in after playing 30 mins at the weekend and no county experience... Defo from East Tyrone, imbecile.

Truthsayer

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Quote from: WesternT on June 05, 2024, 05:40:27 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 05, 2024, 01:29:39 PMGiven the most likely scenario this weekend is still second or third regardless of result as Donegal should beat Clare with plenty to spare, management should use the game to build the fitness of Harte, Burns, Oguz, Kilpatrick and give extended game time to O'Hare. I would also stick with Clarke who had a good game against Clare and stick with Ruairi Canavan whos confidence will surely improve with 70 minutes under his belt and a few good scores late on. Having 20 odd players in good condition and competing should have us in reasonable shape for Prelim QF and Quarter Finals.
Morgan; Clarke Hampsey McKernan; O'Hare Donnelly Harte, Kennedy Kilpatrick; Burns Oguz O'Donnell/Daly; McCurry D Canavan R Canavan. Still leaves Devlin, Daly/O'Donnell, McGeary, McShane, C Quinn, M O'Neill.
Goodman putting O'Hare in after playing 30 mins at the weekend and no county experience... Defo from East Tyrone, imbecile.
O'Hare did bring a new energy when he came on. "Imbecile" ?.. I thought this board was for discussion rather than personal insults if someone has a different opinion.

Easttyrone23

Donegal are certainly in pole position for top spot as you would expect them to beat Clare fairly comfortably, although we still have a chance of finishing top if we can get a decent win over cork so I still think we need to put out a very strong team. That being said i would like to see Mcgarrity, Cormac Donnelly and mcelholm get game time as feel like they could potentially be game changers if we do reach the latter stages of the championship. I would start Harte and burns as well as they need to build fitness after their injuries. I'd go 1.Morgan 2.devlin 3.hampsey 4.Clarke 5.Cullen 6. Burns 7. Harte 8.c Donnelly 9. Kennedy 10. Daly 11. Mcelholm 12. O'Donnell 13. Mccurry 14. Mcgarrity 15.d canavan

thebigfullforward

Quote from: WesternT on June 05, 2024, 05:40:27 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 05, 2024, 01:29:39 PMGiven the most likely scenario this weekend is still second or third regardless of result as Donegal should beat Clare with plenty to spare, management should use the game to build the fitness of Harte, Burns, Oguz, Kilpatrick and give extended game time to O'Hare. I would also stick with Clarke who had a good game against Clare and stick with Ruairi Canavan whos confidence will surely improve with 70 minutes under his belt and a few good scores late on. Having 20 odd players in good condition and competing should have us in reasonable shape for Prelim QF and Quarter Finals.
Morgan; Clarke Hampsey McKernan; O'Hare Donnelly Harte, Kennedy Kilpatrick; Burns Oguz O'Donnell/Daly; McCurry D Canavan R Canavan. Still leaves Devlin, Daly/O'Donnell, McGeary, McShane, C Quinn, M O'Neill.
Goodman putting O'Hare in after playing 30 mins at the weekend and no county experience... Defo from East Tyrone, imbecile.
Calling someone an imbecile for wanting a young lad to get some experience under his belt? By your logic young lads will never get game time as they don't have county experience

square_ball

I would be shocked if it was anything but our strongest side out now over the next few weeks. Of the experienced ones that have been out injured I'd say we could see a start for Petey Harte. Probably sub appearances from Burns and O'Hare and to be honest would rather see McElholm coming on rather than McShane/McGarrity/C Donnelly.

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: Truthsayer on June 05, 2024, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 05, 2024, 02:44:08 PMHow many more times this season or decade (you choose) do we think we'll see Aidan Clarke assist a goal for Niall Devlin?
When your corner back scores 2-2 out of a total of 2-3 in the first half maybe the changes need to be made further up the field.
Quote from: WesternT on June 05, 2024, 05:40:27 PMGoodman putting O'Hare in after playing 30 mins at the weekend and no county experience... Defo from East Tyrone, imbecile.
For the game that's in it I just suggested building the panel as much as we can. I'm not suggesting in the Prelim QF to start OHare nor am I suggesting Niall Devlin loses his place. Just for this Cork game, where realistically it's a game to decide home advantage and Healy Park is hardly a fortress, that we give other players experience and give ourselves an many options as we can for the next stages.

GaaGPT

Quote from: square_ball on June 06, 2024, 09:45:24 AMI would be shocked if it was anything but our strongest side out now over the next few weeks. Of the experienced ones that have been out injured I'd say we could see a start for Petey Harte. Probably sub appearances from Burns and O'Hare and to be honest would rather see McElholm coming on rather than McShane/McGarrity/C Donnelly.


Agree we need to get our best team out and get back into the winning habit. Agree with your sub appearances also but do think we need to keep giving mcShane game time to get him back to his best.

Twobounces

Think we need to start getting realistic about Tyrone chances this year.  We have played four championship games lost two, won one and drew won albeit won in extra time.  Our form this year is not great and even last Sunday against Clare we were very poor.

We are like a team with no structures or no ideas if a team outs 15 behind the ball, we struggle to break teams down and hope McCurry or Canavan do something special, young O'Hare was a positive last week as he came on and brought an injection of pace into the team which was badly lacking before that. 

Cork will be a tricky game and even if we win or lose, I don't fancy our chances against one of the better teams. Would just also like to say that Brian Kennedy does not get the credit he deserves as for the past few years I believe he has been Tyrone most consistent player each day they take to the field. 

tiempo

Quote from: Truthsayer on June 05, 2024, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 05, 2024, 02:44:08 PMHow many more times this season or decade (you choose) do we think we'll see Aidan Clarke assist a goal for Niall Devlin?
When your corner back scores 2-2 out of a total of 2-3 in the first half maybe the changes need to be made further up the field.

The kind of metrics that render the Clare game pointless, it's not repeatable against a D1 team, and won't happen again

The team needs a chip on its shoulder and there doesn't seem to be one readily available, playing in fits and starts and discipline isn't great at the moment