British and Irish Lions Tour 2013

Started by CorkMan, April 28, 2013, 07:58:45 PM

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muppet

Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
Whew. Some series. It's going to be tough to win the third test. Need better lineouts to have a chance. Hookers not delivering. Time for Best?

Best won't fix that.
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Syferus

Quote from: muppet on June 29, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
Whew. Some series. It's going to be tough to win the third test. Need better lineouts to have a chance. Hookers not delivering. Time for Best?

Best won't fix that.

He can't be any worse honestly. Some of throws today gave an already shakey pack no chance. That last one was the stuff of nightmares.

Would hate to see BOD and POC to go out without a Lions tour victory.

muppet

Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 29, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
Whew. Some series. It's going to be tough to win the third test. Need better lineouts to have a chance. Hookers not delivering. Time for Best?

Best won't fix that.

He can't be any worse honestly. Some of throws today gave an already shakey pack no chance. That last one was the stuff of nightmares.

Would hate to see BOD and POC to go out without a Lions tour victory.

Have you seen him throw lately? His confidence is shot otherwise he would have would have been a shoe in for the tour.
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Syferus

Quote from: muppet on June 29, 2013, 01:00:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 29, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
Whew. Some series. It's going to be tough to win the third test. Need better lineouts to have a chance. Hookers not delivering. Time for Best?

Best won't fix that.

He can't be any worse honestly. Some of throws today gave an already shakey pack no chance. That last one was the stuff of nightmares.

Would hate to see BOD and POC to go out without a Lions tour victory.

Have you seen him throw lately? His confidence is shot otherwise he would have would have been a shoe in for the tour.

I've seen Best enough to know he's no master thrower but you need to be thinking about a switch at hooker because we've seen two players fail today. Murray's a shoe-in at scrum-half now, though.

Roberts has to start next weekend if he's fit, Davies is way too anonymous and Roberts-BOD was so good four years ago.

muppet

Murray was good when he came on. The Sexton-Bowe bombs worked but that seems to be the only attacking success. That is a real problem. O'Brien should start and take the game to Australia.
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Count 10

Australia deserved to win today...at least they moved the ball to their back line. If O'Brien doesn't start next week then they have no hope. Vunipola poor yet not replaced...very strange.

muppet

Quote from: Count 10 on June 29, 2013, 01:06:09 PM
Australia deserved to win today...at least they moved the ball to their back line. If O'Brien doesn't start next week then they have no hope. Vunipola poor yet not replaced...very strange.

Who would you put in? Tom Court??

Badly need Corbisiero fit.
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CorkMan

Quote from: muppet on June 29, 2013, 01:07:39 PM
Quote from: Count 10 on June 29, 2013, 01:06:09 PM
Australia deserved to win today...at least they moved the ball to their back line. If O'Brien doesn't start next week then they have no hope. Vunipola poor yet not replaced...very strange.

Who would you put in? Tom Court??

Badly need Corbisiero fit.

If Tom Court starts, there is something seriously wrong. He's only on the tour because he was already in Australia. If they want to replace Vunipola, then Dave Kilcoyne is a better option than Court (I'm not saying Kilcoyne should be called up, just that he's better than Court). Ryan Grant might be worth a start, with Vunipola on the bench. The plan seemed to be, before Healy and Jenkins got injured, that one of them would start and Vunipola would start on the bench. He seems to be better coming off the bench so maybe Ryan Grant should start the next day out.

mouview

Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 29, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
Whew. Some series. It's going to be tough to win the third test. Need better lineouts to have a chance. Hookers not delivering. Time for Best?

Best won't fix that.

He can't be any worse honestly. Some of throws today gave an already shakey pack no chance. That last one was the stuff of nightmares.

Would hate to see BOD and POC to go out without a Lions tour victory.

True, but continued selection of a BOD in decline may be one reason why this Tour could end in yet another defeat.

Syferus

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Quote from: mouview on July 01, 2013, 01:22:38 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 29, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
Whew. Some series. It's going to be tough to win the third test. Need better lineouts to have a chance. Hookers not delivering. Time for Best?

Best won't fix that.

He can't be any worse honestly. Some of throws today gave an already shakey pack no chance. That last one was the stuff of nightmares.

Would hate to see BOD and POC to go out without a Lions tour victory.

True, but continued selection of a BOD in decline may be one reason why this Tour could end in yet another defeat.

BOD has been excellent in the series bar that one pass that changed the momentum in the second test. No signs of decline, certainly nothing that should have any supporter even thinking he should be dropped. This sort of situation is when you need the BODs and POCs of the world more than ever.

Experience could well decide this series. BOD is only the third man to ever be selected for four Lions tours - ironically all three have been Irish - so we're talking about experience without any modern era parallel.

Crazy refereeing in the first test meant BOD couldn't contest the ruck like he should have been able to but he remains the best passer in the game and perhaps the best passer in the history of the sport. Defensively he's rock solid as always.

BOD-Roberts could ignite the centre offensively in the third test, Davies is the problem, not BOD.

With Warburton pretty much KO'd BOD is going to be the test captain heading into the decider. Talk about entering folklore if he leads the Lions to a tour victory after what happened in 2005.

Mikhail Prokhorov

i'm astounded so called 'irishmen' are besotted by the british lions, we russians have more respect for ourselves + country

down, down, croppies lie down!

BennyHarp

Quote from: Syferus on July 01, 2013, 01:47:16 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 01, 2013, 01:22:38 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 29, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
Whew. Some series. It's going to be tough to win the third test. Need better lineouts to have a chance. Hookers not delivering. Time for Best?

Best won't fix that.

He can't be any worse honestly. Some of throws today gave an already shakey pack no chance. That last one was the stuff of nightmares.

Would hate to see BOD and POC to go out without a Lions tour victory.

True, but continued selection of a BOD in decline may be one reason why this Tour could end in yet another defeat.

BOD has been excellent in the series bar that one pass that changed the momentum in the second test. No signs of decline, certainly nothing that should have any supporter even thinking he should be dropped. This sort of situation is when you need the BODs and POCs of the world more than ever.

Experience could well decide this series. BOD is only the third man to ever be selected for four Lions tours - ironically all three have been Irish - so we're talking about experience without any modern era parallel.

Crazy refereeing in the first test meant BOD couldn't contest the ruck like he should have been able to but he remains the best passer in the game and perhaps the best passer in the history of the sport. Defensively he's rock solid as always.

BOD-Roberts could ignite the centre offensively in the third test, Davies is the problem, not BOD.

With Warburton pretty much KO'd BOD is going to be the test captain heading into the decider. Talk about entering folklore if he leads the Lions to a tour victory after what happened in 2005.

Really? I thought BOD has been poor enough in the two test so far. One silly penalty is forgivable but he's given away 5 or 6 over the two tests plus his decision making in possession hasn't been the best either. But I don't think we are allowed to criticise BOD in this country are we?
That was never a square ball!!

Syferus

Quote from: BennyHarp on July 01, 2013, 08:18:16 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 01, 2013, 01:47:16 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 01, 2013, 01:22:38 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 29, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
Whew. Some series. It's going to be tough to win the third test. Need better lineouts to have a chance. Hookers not delivering. Time for Best?

Best won't fix that.

He can't be any worse honestly. Some of throws today gave an already shakey pack no chance. That last one was the stuff of nightmares.

Would hate to see BOD and POC to go out without a Lions tour victory.

True, but continued selection of a BOD in decline may be one reason why this Tour could end in yet another defeat.

BOD has been excellent in the series bar that one pass that changed the momentum in the second test. No signs of decline, certainly nothing that should have any supporter even thinking he should be dropped. This sort of situation is when you need the BODs and POCs of the world more than ever.

Experience could well decide this series. BOD is only the third man to ever be selected for four Lions tours - ironically all three have been Irish - so we're talking about experience without any modern era parallel.

Crazy refereeing in the first test meant BOD couldn't contest the ruck like he should have been able to but he remains the best passer in the game and perhaps the best passer in the history of the sport. Defensively he's rock solid as always.

BOD-Roberts could ignite the centre offensively in the third test, Davies is the problem, not BOD.

With Warburton pretty much KO'd BOD is going to be the test captain heading into the decider. Talk about entering folklore if he leads the Lions to a tour victory after what happened in 2005.

Really? I thought BOD has been poor enough in the two test so far. One silly penalty is forgivable but he's given away 5 or 6 over the two tests plus his decision making in possession hasn't been the best either. But I don't think we are allowed to criticise BOD in this country are we?

First three were in the first test and only in that mad referee's eyes was standing on your feet and reaching in for a ball at a ruck a penalty. Should not be held against him and I highly doubt Gatland does.

muppet

BOD had 14 tackles and missed none. 2nd highest again.

One crazy stat is that after Sexton, Sean O'Brien made the 2nd highest number of metres carrying the ball and he was only on for 16 minutes. That is shocking for the rest of them, including but not limited to BOD
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