America`s Gun Culture

Started by Wildweasel74, December 14, 2012, 06:00:57 PM

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Rossfan

These shootings are Terrorist Outrages but because most are carried out by white skinned Trump supporters they cant be called that and there cant be any emergency legislation to stop it.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.


seafoid

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Mother-victim-El-Paso-Walmart-Shooting-519603061.html?akmobile=o

"An El Paso mom shielded her baby from the terrorist. Her husband shielded them both

Both parents died—their baby survived. Now three children are orphans (2mo, 2 yrs, 5 yrs)"

how pointless is that ?

40,000 dead per year
Add 200,000 Fentanyl overdoses including Prince and Tom Petty

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It's time America wised up.

Muck Savage

I've said it a few times before but don't expect any changes. If grown adults that have been elected into office did not do anything after Sandy Hook where 26 people were kill, 20 of them children either 6 or 7 years old, then nothing will be done by there people.
I've contemplated leaving this country multiple times as the shootings become more frequent and all the closer. The Gilroy shooting last week was 30mins from me and a festival I've brought my wife and kids to in the past. 

J70

Quote from: seafoid on August 05, 2019, 04:12:09 PM
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Mother-victim-El-Paso-Walmart-Shooting-519603061.html?akmobile=o

"An El Paso mom shielded her baby from the terrorist. Her husband shielded them both

Both parents died—their baby survived. Now three children are orphans (2mo, 2 yrs, 5 yrs)"

how pointless is that ?

40,000 dead per year
Add 200,000 Fentanyl overdoses including Prince and Tom Petty

But at least the average paranoid Johnny Sixpack is free to stockpile military-style weapons for when the government helicopters come over the ridge.

Those lives are just the cost of freedom!   ::)

J70

A couple of weeks ago, Ted Cruz and Trump were on about designating Antifa as a terrorist outfit.

Any such murmurings from them on far right types?

Can you imagine the uproar from them if these had been leftist atrocities?

Or heaven forbid, Islamic terrorists who had travelled ten hours across the state to carry out a mass murder?

RedHand88

Quote from: J70 on August 05, 2019, 04:40:36 PM
A couple of weeks ago, Ted Cruz and Trump were on about designating Antifa as a terrorist outfit.

Any such murmurings from them on far right types?

Can you imagine the uproar from them if these had been leftist atrocities?

Or heaven forbid, Islamic terrorists who had travelled ten hours across the state to carry out a mass murder?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49240310

J70

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Quote from: RedHand88 on August 05, 2019, 05:06:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 05, 2019, 04:40:36 PM
A couple of weeks ago, Ted Cruz and Trump were on about designating Antifa as a terrorist outfit.

Any such murmurings from them on far right types?

Can you imagine the uproar from them if these had been leftist atrocities?

Or heaven forbid, Islamic terrorists who had travelled ten hours across the state to carry out a mass murder?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49240310

Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

Not a word about restricting access to guns, including military-style weapons, for which there is no sensible justification outside of defense forces unit.

Hollow words about white supremacy and bullshit about the media, but not a word about his own, for political purposes, fomentation of hostility towards minorities and, specifically, the very people targeted in El Paso.

If video games are such a problem (and some may well be unhealthy), why are mass shootings not happening all over the rest of the planet?? I'm pretty sure my kid would probably still have his Nintendo Switch if he lived in Donegal or Canada.

He's proposing some "red flag" solution. Good luck with that the first time someone brings a case to the Supreme Court for being singled out unjustifiably.

Mental health, video games, simple halfwitted bigotry - that shit exists everywhere. Forunately for the rest of the planet, easy access to an arsenal of your own choice from either down the street or across the river in the next state does not exist.

Wildweasel74

You never change stupid, you and the American public in general must be stupid to let this continue every year. I think the top 5 worst shootings in America has happened in the last 3yrs. The right to bear arms seems to be the issue. Let them have all the arms they want, ban the bullets, don't think that's covered by in the 2nd amendment.

gawa316

My facebook feed is full of 'There's only one way to stop a bad guy with a gun, and that's a good guy with a gun' crap, and these are of parents my kids go to school with...

seafoid

« No matter how well written or delivered a speech cannot divert whole societies from a well established course of action. Policies in motion tend to stay in motion ; to change the trajectory of a deeply embedded set of initiatives requires the application of political forces of equal motion »

Steve Walt

https://youtu.be/wbii77EPHgg

Shannon Watts

@shannonrwatts
·
4h

BREAKING: Chris Cox, the heir apparent to
@NRA
CEO Wayne LaPierre and chief architect of the gun lobby's insidious state strategy to loosen gun laws, has resigned after nearly 20 years with the organization.

Shannon Watts

@shannonrwatts
· 3h
BREAKING: Both NRATV and ‪@NRA‬ spokeswoman Dana Loesch are over.

"While the ‪@NRA‬ may continue to air past content, its live broadcasting has ended and its on-air personalities — including Dana Loesch — will no longer be the public faces of the NRA."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/us/nra-nratv-ackerman-mcqueen.html)


RedHand88

I didn't even realise nratv was a thing. What is wrong with these people.

sid waddell

The gun homicide rate in the US is 73 times higher than that in the UK, and 111 times higher than that of Japan.

I'm pretty sure these places have video games.

But Trump says video games are the problem.

I think it might just be the guns that are the problem.

And of course his openly racist rhetoric.




whitey

Quote from: sid waddell on August 05, 2019, 09:35:21 PM
The gun homicide rate in the US is 73 times higher than that in the UK, and 111 times higher than that of Japan.

I'm pretty sure these places have video games.

But Trump says video games are the problem.

I think it might just be the guns that are the problem.

And of course his openly racist rhetoric.
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We've hashed and rehashed this 1,000,000 times

The numbers you quote are nonsense. As a white male living in Massachusetts the gun homicide rate is a fraction of what you put up. In fact, the town I grew up in Ireland has had more murders than the town I currently reside in......and the town I currently reside in probably has 2000 people with valid gun permits

https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-america/