Belfast rioting over removal of Union Jack

Started by Maurice Moss, December 04, 2012, 02:04:23 AM

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trileacman

Quote from: ziggysego on February 27, 2013, 10:07:18 AM
Breaking: Jamie Bryson and Willie Fraser have been arrested and are being questioned about organising and participating in unlawful parades.

Are you taking the piss here ziggy? Where is this info coming from?
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Quote from: trileacman on February 27, 2013, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on February 27, 2013, 10:07:18 AM
Breaking: Jamie Bryson and Willie Fraser have been arrested and are being questioned about organising and participating in unlawful parades.

Are you taking the piss here ziggy? Where is this info coming from?

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trileacman

This is madness, the pigs do nothing whilst all this was raging and now that things have quietened they start to stir it all up again. Fraizer will never be charged with anything and all the PSNI have achieved is to lend support to the "fleg" suggestions that the state is now against them and their "culture".
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imtommygunn

I don't know about Bryson but I'd have thought Fraser would definitely have been guilty of incitement of hatred crimes. It may be deemed as madness arresting this guy and he may be deemed as mad but you can't be going round saying whatever you want and slandering everyone left, right and cenntre.


Hereiam

I think the two of them need full cavity searches just in case

Milltown Row2

Quote from: trileacman on February 27, 2013, 10:18:32 AM
This is madness, the pigs do nothing whilst all this was raging and now that things have quietened they start to stir it all up again. Fraizer will never be charged with anything and all the PSNI have achieved is to lend support to the "fleg" suggestions that the state is now against them and their "culture".

Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't?
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NAG1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2013, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: trileacman on February 27, 2013, 10:18:32 AM
This is madness, the pigs do nothing whilst all this was raging and now that things have quietened they start to stir it all up again. Fraizer will never be charged with anything and all the PSNI have achieved is to lend support to the "fleg" suggestions that the state is now against them and their "culture".

Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't?

They will have the same supporters now as they had at the height of the fleg protesting malarkey so there is no real difference lifting them now as it would have been then, other than the fact that hopefully they have some hard evidence of them organising these illegal protests.

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: NAG1 on February 27, 2013, 10:45:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2013, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: trileacman on February 27, 2013, 10:18:32 AM
This is madness, the pigs do nothing whilst all this was raging and now that things have quietened they start to stir it all up again. Fraizer will never be charged with anything and all the PSNI have achieved is to lend support to the "fleg" suggestions that the state is now against them and their "culture".

Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't?

They will have the same supporters now as they had at the height of the fleg protesting malarkey so there is no real difference lifting them now as it would have been then, other than the fact that hopefully they have some hard evidence of them organising these illegal protests.

History will show that if you had have went heavy handed and beat them off the streets they would have had more sympathy from their own and more numbers, also the politicans on their side would have baked them up. So I think on this issue you are wrong
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imtommygunn

They should be lifted without a doubt. There has been a lot incitement from both these boys - they have broken the law and should be punished for it.

I thought they were home and dry doing whatever they wanted and am happy to see this.

What the repercussions are I do not know but you can't go round just doing what you want. I hope they have evidence so they can be charged and then wind their necks in.

It's probably also better lifting them now that tensions have died down a bit.

LeoMc

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 27, 2013, 10:45:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2013, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: trileacman on February 27, 2013, 10:18:32 AM
This is madness, the pigs do nothing whilst all this was raging and now that things have quietened they start to stir it all up again. Fraizer will never be charged with anything and all the PSNI have achieved is to lend support to the "fleg" suggestions that the state is now against them and their "culture".

Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't?

They will have the same supporters now as they had at the height of the fleg protesting malarkey so there is no real difference lifting them now as it would have been then, other than the fact that hopefully they have some hard evidence of them organising these illegal protests.

History will show that if you had have went heavy handed and beat them off the streets they would have had more sympathy from their own and more numbers, also the politicans on their side would have baked them up. So I think on this issue you are wrong

I think it is the correct move. If the PSNI had tried to lift them during a parade all hell would have broke loose. There would have been cries about "human wights".  They have lifted them away from the cameras and hopefully have enough evidence to show a pattern of law breaking and charge them.
As with a number of riots the arrests happened in the following weeks where the potential to inflame the situation had lessened.

Jeepers Creepers

Believe it or not LED lights have been fitted around the city hall and are currently flashing blue, red then green!!

take_yer_points

Matt Baggott was saying last week (22 Feb) there is going to be more people before the courts - hopefully this is just the start of it...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-21541804

"There will be further arrests, there will be more charges and there will be hundreds of people brought before the courts," Mr Baggott said.