Belfast rioting over removal of Union Jack

[ballinaman]

Loyalists against democracy translation utility: http://lad.eu01.aws.af.cm/?fb

(May have been posted before)

That's brilliant

[imtommygunn]

Yeah you are probably right. Being too heavy handed would be counter productive really.  The more heavy handed they are the more likely someone, probably a police officer, is to get killed. If you look at some incidents on saturday the police could actually trap these guys easy enough but it would get very messy.

Interesting blog here http://garethrussellcidevant.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-protestants-of-ireland-know-nothing.html. It's a unionist guy blogging but it is an articulate and fairly objective blog which is refreshing to see for a change. (Both the articulate and the objective parts)

This is an interesting and well thought out article that makes many good points.  However it does worry me slightly that a graduate of St Peter's College Oxford, who also hold a Master's in Mediaeval History from Queen's, and has written two novels, uses the phrase "wrapped harshly over the knuckles"...twice.  Had it not been for that I'd have given him an A+.

It's well thought out from a unionist perspective as he talks about all the concessions have been on the unionist side.

Well if fair employment legislation, and equal rights to housing, education, an impartial policing service etc are deemed a concession then yes they've had to make concessions but that tells you more about where we were than where we are now.

Well yes I would agree there but it's nice to see something even slightly balanced.

The concessions with regard to republican prisoners getting released with the GFA keeps repeatedly coming up. I'm not sure why any reasonable thinking person doesn't grasp the concept that as well as republican paramilitaries getting out of jail after the GFA there were also a lot of loyalist paramilitaries who did so in terms of concessions two sides  did that.

Some of it boils down to the fact that we're moving towards equality and our starting point was very far from it so when they have to give an inch towards equality it's a "concession".

The history thing also is very valid but he doesn't describe a few things. I have no time for paramilitaries whatsoever however I think most of the "loyalist" population are of the opinion that the IRA were going to wipe them out and loyalist paramilitaries only exist to protect against the IRA. (or other republican paramilitaries).

[Rossfan]

Simply no excuses. The police cannot be forgiven for tip toeing around a bunch of teenage scumbags for fear of upsetting them. If it was just in East Belfast it would be nothing more than an easy excuse, where the paramilitaries are rife, but the cops are employing the same facilitation strategy across the board. Places like Omagh, a majority Catholic town with no real active loyalist paramilitary group and the same small group of scumbags are out on a regular basis, illegally blocking the roads at rush hour and kicking blocked cars while the police stand around with them having a good ol' yarn. Unacceptable. Meanwhile, in the same town a few weeks ago, in the wee small hours when there was little or no traffic, five or six lads singing a celtic song at the side of the road outside a pub, were charged into, several were hit with batons and two were arrested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbGm_7Gg3Ow

No doubt you've asked your local Sinn Féin MLA/MP to get their reps on the Policing Board to raise your valid complaint.
I presume you will also make a complaint to the Police Ombudsman.
Or are you just happy to bitch on the Gaaboard.....

You're obsessed 

My post highlights the differing police tactics in the same town. This is a discussion board. So would you get over yourself and go and sicken someone else's hole for a while.

Ahhh you poor little sensitive child...... is nobody allowed to put even the mildest question or criticism of the poor little ladeen.

[Nally Stand]

Simply no excuses. The police cannot be forgiven for tip toeing around a bunch of teenage scumbags for fear of upsetting them. If it was just in East Belfast it would be nothing more than an easy excuse, where the paramilitaries are rife, but the cops are employing the same facilitation strategy across the board. Places like Omagh, a majority Catholic town with no real active loyalist paramilitary group and the same small group of scumbags are out on a regular basis, illegally blocking the roads at rush hour and kicking blocked cars while the police stand around with them having a good ol' yarn. Unacceptable. Meanwhile, in the same town a few weeks ago, in the wee small hours when there was little or no traffic, five or six lads singing a celtic song at the side of the road outside a pub, were charged into, several were hit with batons and two were arrested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbGm_7Gg3Ow

No doubt you've asked your local Sinn Féin MLA/MP to get their reps on the Policing Board to raise your valid complaint.
I presume you will also make a complaint to the Police Ombudsman.
Or are you just happy to bitch on the Gaaboard.....

You're obsessed 

My post highlights the differing police tactics in the same town. This is a discussion board. So would you get over yourself and go and sicken someone else's hole for a while.

Ahhh you poor little sensitive child...... is nobody allowed to put even the mildest question or criticism of the poor little ladeen.

Criticism? What criticism was there? "Witty" (snide) remarks are hardly constructive criticism. The height of your "criticism" as far as I can see is that I posted about something on this board. Something you have done 4549 times to date yourself. Others have talked about police handling of the riots on this board, yet the first instance where I do, you cry about it. Like I say, a tad obsessed.

[Orior]

The focus on educational standards in protestant areas is very apt. The Good Friday Agreement was signed god-knows-how many years ago. Yet the some of the people in Loyalist areas still dont get it.

Today's joke: Will non-denominational schools bring one side up, but drag the other side down?

[Rossfan]

Simply no excuses. The police cannot be forgiven for tip toeing around a bunch of teenage scumbags for fear of upsetting them. If it was just in East Belfast it would be nothing more than an easy excuse, where the paramilitaries are rife, but the cops are employing the same facilitation strategy across the board. Places like Omagh, a majority Catholic town with no real active loyalist paramilitary group and the same small group of scumbags are out on a regular basis, illegally blocking the roads at rush hour and kicking blocked cars while the police stand around with them having a good ol' yarn. Unacceptable. Meanwhile, in the same town a few weeks ago, in the wee small hours when there was little or no traffic, five or six lads singing a celtic song at the side of the road outside a pub, were charged into, several were hit with batons and two were arrested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbGm_7Gg3Ow

No doubt you've asked your local Sinn Féin MLA/MP to get their reps on the Policing Board to raise your valid complaint.
I presume you will also make a complaint to the Police Ombudsman.
Or are you just happy to bitch on the Gaaboard.....

You're obsessed 

My post highlights the differing police tactics in the same town. This is a discussion board. So would you get over yourself and go and sicken someone else's hole for a while.

Ahhh you poor little sensitive child...... is nobody allowed to put even the mildest question or criticism of the poor little ladeen.

Criticism? What criticism was there? "Witty" (snide) remarks are hardly constructive criticism. The height of your "criticism" as far as I can see is that I posted about something on this board. Something you have done 4549 times to date yourself. Others have talked about police handling of the riots on this board, yet the first instance where I do, you cry about it. Like I say, a tad obsessed.

Don't flatter yourself buckeen.
A mild questioning of your post brought forth some ugly invective from you. The mannerly way to have responded was along the lines of " SF have already raised this" and post the link.

[Nally Stand]

Simply no excuses. The police cannot be forgiven for tip toeing around a bunch of teenage scumbags for fear of upsetting them. If it was just in East Belfast it would be nothing more than an easy excuse, where the paramilitaries are rife, but the cops are employing the same facilitation strategy across the board. Places like Omagh, a majority Catholic town with no real active loyalist paramilitary group and the same small group of scumbags are out on a regular basis, illegally blocking the roads at rush hour and kicking blocked cars while the police stand around with them having a good ol' yarn. Unacceptable. Meanwhile, in the same town a few weeks ago, in the wee small hours when there was little or no traffic, five or six lads singing a celtic song at the side of the road outside a pub, were charged into, several were hit with batons and two were arrested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbGm_7Gg3Ow

No doubt you've asked your local Sinn Féin MLA/MP to get their reps on the Policing Board to raise your valid complaint.
I presume you will also make a complaint to the Police Ombudsman.
Or are you just happy to bitch on the Gaaboard.....

You're obsessed 

My post highlights the differing police tactics in the same town. This is a discussion board. So would you get over yourself and go and sicken someone else's hole for a while.

Ahhh you poor little sensitive child...... is nobody allowed to put even the mildest question or criticism of the poor little ladeen.

Criticism? What criticism was there? "Witty" (snide) remarks are hardly constructive criticism. The height of your "criticism" as far as I can see is that I posted about something on this board. Something you have done 4549 times to date yourself. Others have talked about police handling of the riots on this board, yet the first instance where I do, you cry about it. Like I say, a tad obsessed.

Don't flatter yourself buckeen.
A mild questioning of your post brought forth some ugly invective from you. The mannerly way to have responded was along the lines of " SF have already raised this" and post the link.

A mild questioning of my post? You didn't question a single thing about my post. You merely accused me of "bitching"  for having written the post at all (what was it you were lecturing about? Being "mannerly?"). Again, my post was aimed at discussing the police handling of the riots. You taking issue of me for writing about this but not taking issue with anyone else for doing the same really does make me think ur a tad obsessed im afraid. 

[Eamonnca1]

Simply no excuses. The police cannot be forgiven for tip toeing around a bunch of teenage scumbags for fear of upsetting them. If it was just in East Belfast it would be nothing more than an easy excuse, where the paramilitaries are rife, but the cops are employing the same facilitation strategy across the board. Places like Omagh, a majority Catholic town with no real active loyalist paramilitary group and the same small group of scumbags are out on a regular basis, illegally blocking the roads at rush hour and kicking blocked cars while the police stand around with them having a good ol' yarn. Unacceptable. Meanwhile, in the same town a few weeks ago, in the wee small hours when there was little or no traffic, five or six lads singing a celtic song at the side of the road outside a pub, were charged into, several were hit with batons and two were arrested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbGm_7Gg3Ow

No doubt you've asked your local Sinn Féin MLA/MP to get their reps on the Policing Board to raise your valid complaint.
I presume you will also make a complaint to the Police Ombudsman.
Or are you just happy to bitch on the Gaaboard.....

You're obsessed 

My post highlights the differing police tactics in the same town. This is a discussion board. So would you get over yourself and go and sicken someone else's hole for a while.

Ahhh you poor little sensitive child...... is nobody allowed to put even the mildest question or criticism of the poor little ladeen.

Criticism? What criticism was there? "Witty" (snide) remarks are hardly constructive criticism. The height of your "criticism" as far as I can see is that I posted about something on this board. Something you have done 4549 times to date yourself. Others have talked about police handling of the riots on this board, yet the first instance where I do, you cry about it. Like I say, a tad obsessed.

Don't flatter yourself buckeen.
A mild questioning of your post brought forth some ugly invective from you. The mannerly way to have responded was along the lines of " SF have already raised this" and post the link.

A mild questioning of my post? You didn't question a single thing about my post. You merely accused me of "bitching"  for having written the post at all. Again, my post was aimed at discussing the police handling of the riots. You taking issue of me for writing about this but not taking issue with anyone else for doing the same really does make me think ur a tad obsessed im afraid. 

Gentlemen, choose your weapons:

[Rossfan]

Gentlemen, choose your weapons:

[Myles Na G.]

Watched UTV Live there tonight, unbelievable, the loyalists attacked the Short Strand and when the people os SS started to retaliate the PSNI sheltered the loyalists behind their jeeps!

Odd. 'Cos all I've heard all week is loyalists complaining that the PSNI have been tough on Prods, easy on Taigs. They've even got a slogan for it - PSNIRA. Maybe the peelers have switched sides? Or maybe you should take your bigot specs off before switching on the telly.

You have heard from who? The loyalists. Please tell me where nationalists have been out protesting, blocking roads, burning flags, attacking homes, attacking disabled peolpe, burning Alliance offices, hijacking buses, stopping old people getting to visit relatives in hospital. You call me a bigot, I would take that as an insult from someone who had a balanced view on things but from you it just seems laughable. Please abstain from commenting further as you clearly are just a wind up merchant, actually dissappointed at myseslf for replying but then again people like you need to put straight.

'the peelers bate us off the road, but they hardly touch themmuns'. The perpetual whine of the bigot, orange or green. That's what my post was about. Haven't a buckin' clue what yours relates to.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Simply no excuses. The police cannot be forgiven for tip toeing around a bunch of teenage scumbags for fear of upsetting them. If it was just in East Belfast it would be nothing more than an easy excuse, where the paramilitaries are rife, but the cops are employing the same facilitation strategy across the board. Places like Omagh, a majority Catholic town with no real active loyalist paramilitary group and the same small group of scumbags are out on a regular basis, illegally blocking the roads at rush hour and kicking blocked cars while the police stand around with them having a good ol' yarn. Unacceptable. Meanwhile, in the same town a few weeks ago, in the wee small hours when there was little or no traffic, five or six lads singing a celtic song at the side of the road outside a pub, were charged into, several were hit with batons and two were arrested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbGm_7Gg3Ow

No doubt you've asked your local Sinn Féin MLA/MP to get their reps on the Policing Board to raise your valid complaint.
I presume you will also make a complaint to the Police Ombudsman.
Or are you just happy to bitch on the Gaaboard.....

You're obsessed 

My post highlights the differing police tactics in the same town. This is a discussion board. So would you get over yourself and go and sicken someone else's hole for a while.

Ahhh you poor little sensitive child...... is nobody allowed to put even the mildest question or criticism of the poor little ladeen.

Criticism? What criticism was there? "Witty" (snide) remarks are hardly constructive criticism. The height of your "criticism" as far as I can see is that I posted about something on this board. Something you have done 4549 times to date yourself. Others have talked about police handling of the riots on this board, yet the first instance where I do, you cry about it. Like I say, a tad obsessed.

Don't flatter yourself buckeen.
A mild questioning of your post brought forth some ugly invective from you. The mannerly way to have responded was along the lines of " SF have already raised this" and post the link.

A mild questioning of my post? You didn't question a single thing about my post. You merely accused me of "bitching"  for having written the post at all. Again, my post was aimed at discussing the police handling of the riots. You taking issue of me for writing about this but not taking issue with anyone else for doing the same really does make me think ur a tad obsessed im afraid. 

Gentlemen, choose your weapons:

Clearly the Connachtman has the boy from Ulster on the ropes. On da Whest.

[give her dixie]

Priceless contribution from the bowl Jamie Bryson:

Jamie Bryson


It has come to the attention of the UPF that the PSNI intend to invoke special legislation and arrest those organising or involved in protests. Tonight a PSNI snatch squad were primed to arrest two high profile loyalists in Belfast and were ordered to stand down because they could not get both people. Human rights independent international observers have been notified as well as media contacts across the world and if PSNI arrest peaceful protestors or arrest peaceful protest organisers without evidence of them breaking the law there is many human rights lawyers and MEP's from across Europe who have agreed to raise the issue on the world stage. The Israeli embassy has also been contacted and informed that political arrests are going to be made and they have promised support. All have also been made aware that the PSNI may try and set up certain loyalists for arrest to take them off the streets and thus they believe this will squash the protests. I warn them that they are playing with fire if they start arresting people for expressing their democratic right to peaceful protest.


A selection of responses:

Stephen Douglas wouldnt it b better to contact the israeli embassy in london?
19 hours ago via mobile · Like · 2

Evan Maxwell No irony at all that Israel faught the British to withdraw from the region 70 years ago... There are no union flags flying over Jerusalem city hall any more...
17 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1

Graham Houston That's cause Jesus looked like Bobby Sands! So don't go blaming us fs!
14 hours ago via mobile · Like

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[Minder]

Did the hoor never hear of a comma?

[Puckoon]

He's like lawnseedwithcapitalsandfullstops.

[Tony Baloney]

He is doing well to type anything from a straitjacket.