Belfast rioting over removal of Union Jack

[LeoMc]

I see the UDA are calling for an end to the protests. I wonder how that will sit with the UVF organisers!

[bennydorano]

I get the feeling it wont stop until theres a real tragedy - Quinn boys murder in Ballymoney to end the Drumcree nonsense years ago springs to mind

[muppet]

Serious questions.

Is it safe around City Hall these days? Is it different day v night?

[Milltown Row2]

I find it hard to understand the mentality that the closing of traditional industries should mean that some people a generation or two later are finding it hard to get work. I don't see how someone can sit around waiting for manufacturing jobs to appear in western Europe, you have to be completely closed off to reality to think that in this day and age.

In my harder moods I'd say it's their own tough shite for landing themselves where they are.

These boys aren't waiting on manufacturing or any other type of industry to come to their area, they are quite happy sitting on their hole.

I'm getting bored of hearing about people in East Belfast having no work and being thick. The same amount of people live on the Falls road and are very happy to bleed the system dry and work is something of a myth or folklore.

True but the boys in the East are using lack of investment in the area as a contributing factor to their rioting when everyone can see it is an excuse to get handy money into the area. The money gets allocated to dodgy "community jobs" that end up being inextricably linked to paramilitarism; in essence helping only a small percentage of those rioting and those least deserving of help imo. The front line morons are too thick to see that though.

I applied for one of those 'community' jobs on the Falls years ago, cracking interview, I met all the points and was given great feedback afterwards, ended up not getting the job was put on first reserve, I found out who got the job later and was disappointed as this fella was clearly getting the job before the interview his 10 years in jail would have been one of the main criteria for the post

They phoned me up about 4 months later to ask me to take the job as the other guy didn't work out hmmmmmmm.....

The peace money was given to both areas but in fairness West Belfast did fairly well in this because for most parts it was honest enough. The Shankill and other areas were different, I worked on the Shankill for about 3 years and they did have one community place that did good work but as you have said Tony they were dodgy enough.

As long as these groups keep getting funding they will be looking money, in truth what da fcuk do they really do?

Alternatives?

Would be one of the better groups, it's fighting a difficult fight but fair play to them

[Tony Baloney]

I remember years ago hearing that Andre Shoukri gambled 600k of "community" money given to some prisoners organisation on the Shore Road.

[theticklemister]

I remember years ago hearing that Andre Shoukri gambled 600k of "community" money given to some prisoners organisation on the Shore Road.

He should have kept it unti Friday past there at huntington and done the horse 'glorious twelth' .

He would have a lot more cocaine now put it that way. 

[imtommygunn]

Serious questions.

Is it safe around City Hall these days? Is it different day v night?

It's ok. 1 o'clock every saturday at the city hall is not the place to be as there seems to be a routine protest. The rest of the time it's fine and to be honest heading out in belfast is fine as long as you're not going towards east belfast.

The protests are pretty isolated and it's well communicated where they are.

[lawnseed]

I get the feeling it wont stop until theres a real tragedy - Quinn boys murder in Ballymoney to end the Drumcree nonsense years ago springs to mind

yes. at the minute they are happy just to stone the cops but they'll get bored. the police are re-active not pro-active these guys want to provoke the taigs into full scale rioting a dead catholic/nationalist will do the trick.

[All of a Sludden]

[lawnseed]

i read in the sunday world that poor wullie got his marching orders.. it seems the local uvf are not willing to share the limelight or the money with our wee wullie. hes gonna play with the cat til she scrabs him..

[Jeepers Creepers]

i read in the sunday world that poor wullie got his marching orders.. it seems the local uvf are not willing to share the limelight or the money with our wee wullie. hes gonna play with the cat til she scrabs him..

Was wondering where he had disappeared to...

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

I am unfamiliar with the geography of Belfast but why on in the name of sanity are the PSNI funnelling Flag protestorspast Nationalist areas. Is this the only viable option or are they badly organising the repatriation of Loyalists from the City Centre?

[NAG1]

I am unfamiliar with the geography of Belfast but why on in the name of sanity are the PSNI funnelling Flag protestorspast Nationalist areas. Is this the only viable option or are they badly organising the repatriation of Loyalists from the City Centre?

Its the main route back to their ghetto.

[Jeepers Creepers]

I am unfamiliar with the geography of Belfast but why on in the name of sanity are the PSNI funnelling Flag protestorspast Nationalist areas. Is this the only viable option or are they badly organising the repatriation of Loyalists from the City Centre?

They split their route on the way back (against PSNI wishes, who asked nicely) to pass both sides of Short-strand

[Milltown Row2]

I am unfamiliar with the geography of Belfast but why on in the name of sanity are the PSNI funnelling Flag protestorspast Nationalist areas. Is this the only viable option or are they badly organising the repatriation of Loyalists from the City Centre?

Its the main route back to their ghetto.

Yeah just as Jeepers said. Would have made more sense (Sense!!) had they walked up the Newtownards Road