Belfast rioting over removal of Union Jack

[theskull1]

I've always been of the opinion that nowadays if a march is to go ahead, then everyone not being there to get offended is thee best way to deal with marches over the medium to long term. Close the blinds, go and visit friends, organise a fun day for the community away from the drones of them (whatever just don't give a toss about what they're doing). The scumbags love the agitation they cause so breaking the spell would really sicken their holes. Remember Dunloy used to be a sc**bag day trip destination. They came from all over when the marches were being rail roaded through and you could see the enjoyment they got from all the agro they were causing at that time. Those scumbags wouldn't be there if there was no fun in it for them. It may take time but in the long run it would show them up for what they're about.

[armaghniac]

But can we hope the plastic paddies from Eirigi and the like will have the brains to see this - probably not!

Its pity it is on a Saturday, otherwise a special signing on day in Finglas might have done the trick.

[tyssam5]

If any protester can name all these days and can name the Duchess of Cornwall/Cambridge etc. then they should be allowed to fly the fleg every day. If they lose the challenge then no days. Would I get any takers?

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DESIGNATED DAYS FOR FLYING THE UNION FLAG*

*Source Department of Culture, Media and Sport and subject to review

9 January
   

Birthday of The Duchess of Cambridge

20 January
   

Birthday of The Countess of Wessex

6 February
   

Her Majesty's Accession

19 February
   

Birthday of The Duke of York

10 March
   

Birthday of The Earl of Wessex

11 March
   

Commonwealth Day (second Monday in March)

17 March
   

St Patrick's Day (in Northern Ireland only)

21 April
   

Birthday of Her Majesty The Queen

9 May
   

Europe Day

2 June
   

Coronation Day

10 June
   

Birthday of The Duke of Edinburgh

15 June
   

Official Celebration of Her Majesty's Birthday

21 June
   

Birthday of The Duke of Cambridge

17 July
   

Birthday of The Duchess of Cornwall

15 August
   

Birthday of The Princess Royal

10 November
   

Remembrance Day (second Sunday)

14 November
   

Birthday of The Prince of Wales

20 November
   

Her Majesty's Wedding Day

[andoireabu]

If Craigavon does this, what odds on Derry, Newry etc hoisting the Tricolour? Nationalists are usually much too sensible for such infantile moves but such a dose of reality might be what these pricks need.

Best thing to do is sit back and let these idiots dig themselves into a bigger hole for all the world to see.

Is the rest of the world seeing though?  Since it started I've heard it mentioned on the news here twice,  once when they threw the petrol bomb in the police car window and the other was today after the carry on last night.  the word nationalist was used a lot in the news today which is a suprise since they should stay the hell out of it all.

[Milltown Row2]

I've always been of the opinion that nowadays if a march is to go ahead, then everyone not being there to get offended is thee best way to deal with marches over the medium to long term. Close the blinds, go and visit friends, organise a fun day for the community away from the drones of them (whatever just don't give a toss about what they're doing). The scumbags love the agitation they cause so breaking the spell would really sicken their holes. Remember Dunloy used to be a sc**bag day trip destination. They came from all over when the marches were being rail roaded through and you could see the enjoyment they got from all the agro they were causing at that time. Those scumbags wouldn't be there if there was no fun in it for them. It may take time but in the long run it would show them up for what they're about.

Was in Derry with me da for a city break, it work out that the Saturday we arrived was Lundy Saturday. Bands from all over N.I there and when we got out of the taxi and dandered past the burning of Lundy there was a fuss or a second look from the locals who went on about their business and we felt no tension from punters in the pubs we drank in either, very refreshing I mentioned at the time.

[Orior]

If any protester can name all these days and can name the Duchess of Cornwall/Cambridge etc. then they should be allowed to fly the fleg every day. If they lose the challenge then no days. Would I get any takers?

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DESIGNATED DAYS FOR FLYING THE UNION FLAG*

20 January
   

Birthday of The Countess of Wessex

Does this mean that Sinn Fein care more about English Royalty than the Ulster Loyalists? The latter want to fly the flag all year round and hence dont treat the Cuntess's birthday as a special day.

[Orior]

I've always been of the opinion that nowadays if a march is to go ahead, then everyone not being there to get offended is thee best way to deal with marches over the medium to long term. Close the blinds, go and visit friends, organise a fun day for the community away from the drones of them (whatever just don't give a toss about what they're doing). The scumbags love the agitation they cause so breaking the spell would really sicken their holes. Remember Dunloy used to be a sc**bag day trip destination. They came from all over when the marches were being rail roaded through and you could see the enjoyment they got from all the agro they were causing at that time. Those scumbags wouldn't be there if there was no fun in it for them. It may take time but in the long run it would show them up for what they're about.

Was in Derry with me da for a city break, it work out that the Saturday we arrived was Lundy Saturday. Bands from all over N.I there and when we got out of the taxi and dandered past the burning of Lundy there was a fuss or a second look from the locals who went on about their business and we felt no tension from punters in the pubs we drank in either, very refreshing I mentioned at the time.

So you were not wearing an Antrim jersey. What is your point? I've been in the middle of Orange marches and didnt feel tension, even through I was wearing an Amagh polo shirt. And I'm sure Peter Robinson didnt feel tense when he visited the Athletic grounds.

Hang on, are you on a crusade to tell us that every thing is lovely and rosey in the occupied six?

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I've always been of the opinion that nowadays if a march is to go ahead, then everyone not being there to get offended is thee best way to deal with marches over the medium to long term. Close the blinds, go and visit friends, organise a fun day for the community away from the drones of them (whatever just don't give a toss about what they're doing). The scumbags love the agitation they cause so breaking the spell would really sicken their holes. Remember Dunloy used to be a sc**bag day trip destination. They came from all over when the marches were being rail roaded through and you could see the enjoyment they got from all the agro they were causing at that time. Those scumbags wouldn't be there if there was no fun in it for them. It may take time but in the long run it would show them up for what they're about.

Was in Derry with me da for a city break, it work out that the Saturday we arrived was Lundy Saturday. Bands from all over N.I there and when we got out of the taxi and dandered past the burning of Lundy there was a fuss or a second look from the locals who went on about their business and we felt no tension from punters in the pubs we drank in either, very refreshing I mentioned at the time.

It's true that things have calmed in Derry but it is also true that most locals don't bother shopping for those few hours and a lot of trade is lost, all city centre bars are now nationalist since the "talk of the town" in the fountain closed. Most punters as you say just sit in watch the football until they piss back off to wherever the come from. But the police and Sinn Fein have done a lot of work to control
, calm and keep trouble at a minimum. The apprentice boys have also learnt that they need to do their bit to keep the more unsavoury elements away.

[ballinaman]

Willie Frazer on prime time now...popcorn out.

I don't think he blinked once during that interview...hilarious.

[charlieTully]

So Derry, Newry, Limavady and the other nationalist councils could hoist any flag they like.

Hopefully, Newry and Mourne would fly the Armagh flag.

maybe, if it was red and black.

[Wildweasel74]

just seen a young blonde woman out protesting their with her 3yr son? Her attitude, if we dont get what we want, he be protesting when he gets older too. Did none of these people go to school to get an education? they come across as so stupid, put of touch with reality, bitter, its like a scene out of shameless. I just cant understand the mentality, i have plenty of protestant friends, some in the orange order, its never bothered me, that was their business, they loved taking the ,mickey out of me when Tyrone were winning All-Irelands, and was i going to the game, as they knew i hated Tyrone lol. They called Derry, Derry not londonderry (Tyrone people take note). I seen the people on tv and i can honestly say i have not come across people like this, its so obvious they dont know any Catholics, have never had a catholic friend, how to people becomes so bitter? Willie Frazier i partially understand his mentality, he has had 5 members of his family killed, but you cant stay bitter forever, it just brings you down. I am good friends with someone who lost a brother at Teebane. We talked about it once, yes she was bitter but she knew she had to move on and bad things happen. She got plenty of Catholic  friends, you got to move with the times. The problem in the north is too many people are stuck in the past, and unfortunately bringing a younger generation who knows nothing of the troubles onto the street. What the hell does Jamie Bryson know about the troubles. In his early 20`s i say very little.

[Milltown Row2]

I've always been of the opinion that nowadays if a march is to go ahead, then everyone not being there to get offended is thee best way to deal with marches over the medium to long term. Close the blinds, go and visit friends, organise a fun day for the community away from the drones of them (whatever just don't give a toss about what they're doing). The scumbags love the agitation they cause so breaking the spell would really sicken their holes. Remember Dunloy used to be a sc**bag day trip destination. They came from all over when the marches were being rail roaded through and you could see the enjoyment they got from all the agro they were causing at that time. Those scumbags wouldn't be there if there was no fun in it for them. It may take time but in the long run it would show them up for what they're about.

Was in Derry with me da for a city break, it work out that the Saturday we arrived was Lundy Saturday. Bands from all over N.I there and when we got out of the taxi and dandered past the burning of Lundy there was a fuss or a second look from the locals who went on about their business and we felt no tension from punters in the pubs we drank in either, very refreshing I mentioned at the time.

So you were not wearing an Antrim jersey. What is your point? I've been in the middle of Orange marches and didnt feel tension, even through I was wearing an Amagh polo shirt. And I'm sure Peter Robinson didnt feel tense when he visited the Athletic grounds.

Hang on, are you on a crusade to tell us that every thing is lovely and rosey in the occupied six?

My point being, had you read what I was responding to was that ignoring the marchers and protests is far better than getting involved.

It's a far better place than the one I grew up in that's for sure. Dodging bullets, riots, bombings and murder on your doorstep was what I was seeing regularly living on the Falls during the 70's and 80's. You telling me it's not better?

[Orior]

I've always been of the opinion that nowadays if a march is to go ahead, then everyone not being there to get offended is thee best way to deal with marches over the medium to long term. Close the blinds, go and visit friends, organise a fun day for the community away from the drones of them (whatever just don't give a toss about what they're doing). The scumbags love the agitation they cause so breaking the spell would really sicken their holes. Remember Dunloy used to be a sc**bag day trip destination. They came from all over when the marches were being rail roaded through and you could see the enjoyment they got from all the agro they were causing at that time. Those scumbags wouldn't be there if there was no fun in it for them. It may take time but in the long run it would show them up for what they're about.

Was in Derry with me da for a city break, it work out that the Saturday we arrived was Lundy Saturday. Bands from all over N.I there and when we got out of the taxi and dandered past the burning of Lundy there was a fuss or a second look from the locals who went on about their business and we felt no tension from punters in the pubs we drank in either, very refreshing I mentioned at the time.

So you were not wearing an Antrim jersey. What is your point? I've been in the middle of Orange marches and didnt feel tension, even through I was wearing an Amagh polo shirt. And I'm sure Peter Robinson didnt feel tense when he visited the Athletic grounds.

Hang on, are you on a crusade to tell us that every thing is lovely and rosey in the occupied six?

My point being, had you read what I was responding to was that ignoring the marchers and protests is far better than getting involved.

It's a far better place than the one I grew up in that's for sure. Dodging bullets, riots, bombings and murder on your doorstep was what I was seeing regularly living on the Falls during the 70's and 80's. You telling me it's not better?

Totally agree. It is a 100 times better. But it doesnt have to end there. As you can tell, I'm one of those that will always consider myself Irish, not Northern Irish. But I also acknowledge that we share the six counties with Northern Irish, Ulster Scots, Peusdo English and British.

[Milltown Row2]

I've always been of the opinion that nowadays if a march is to go ahead, then everyone not being there to get offended is thee best way to deal with marches over the medium to long term. Close the blinds, go and visit friends, organise a fun day for the community away from the drones of them (whatever just don't give a toss about what they're doing). The scumbags love the agitation they cause so breaking the spell would really sicken their holes. Remember Dunloy used to be a sc**bag day trip destination. They came from all over when the marches were being rail roaded through and you could see the enjoyment they got from all the agro they were causing at that time. Those scumbags wouldn't be there if there was no fun in it for them. It may take time but in the long run it would show them up for what they're about.

Was in Derry with me da for a city break, it work out that the Saturday we arrived was Lundy Saturday. Bands from all over N.I there and when we got out of the taxi and dandered past the burning of Lundy there was a fuss or a second look from the locals who went on about their business and we felt no tension from punters in the pubs we drank in either, very refreshing I mentioned at the time.

So you were not wearing an Antrim jersey. What is your point? I've been in the middle of Orange marches and didnt feel tension, even through I was wearing an Amagh polo shirt. And I'm sure Peter Robinson didnt feel tense when he visited the Athletic grounds.

Hang on, are you on a crusade to tell us that every thing is lovely and rosey in the occupied six?

My point being, had you read what I was responding to was that ignoring the marchers and protests is far better than getting involved.

It's a far better place than the one I grew up in that's for sure. Dodging bullets, riots, bombings and murder on your doorstep was what I was seeing regularly living on the Falls during the 70's and 80's. You telling me it's not better?

Totally agree. It is a 100 times better. But it doesnt have to end there. As you can tell, I'm one of those that will always consider myself Irish, not Northern Irish. But I also acknowledge that we share the six counties with Northern Irish, Ulster Scots, Peusdo English and British.

I'm as Irish as you and I love my hurling to the core, but I'd prefer my kids don't see the violence that went on when I was young in Belfast. I will always try and see both sides to every argument, I'd hate to think that if equality or even nationalist were in the majority that nationalist treat the loyalists as they were treated since partition

[HiMucker]

just seen a young blonde woman out protesting their with her 3yr son? Her attitude, if we dont get what we want, he be protesting when he gets older too. Did none of these people go to school to get an education? they come across as so stupid, put of touch with reality, bitter, its like a scene out of shameless. I just cant understand the mentality, i have plenty of protestant friends, some in the orange order, its never bothered me, that was their business, they loved taking the ,mickey out of me when Tyrone were winning All-Irelands, and was i going to the game, as they knew i hated Tyrone lol. They called Derry, Derry not londonderry (Tyrone people take note). I seen the people on tv and i can honestly say i have not come across people like this, its so obvious they dont know any Catholics, have never had a catholic friend, how to people becomes so bitter? Willie Frazier i partially understand his mentality, he has had 5 members of his family killed, but you cant stay bitter forever, it just brings you down. I am good friends with someone who lost a brother at Teebane. We talked about it once, yes she was bitter but she knew she had to move on and bad things happen. She got plenty of Catholic  friends, you got to move with the times. The problem in the north is too many people are stuck in the past, and unfortunately bringing a younger generation who knows nothing of the troubles onto the street. What the hell does Jamie Bryson know about the troubles. In his early 20`s i say very little.

+1
Haven't talked to a single prod who agrees with these protest.  Watched the YouTube video of frazer calling Adams a paedo there now.  Disgrace.  But what struck me was the absolute lack of intelligence from the mob.  Now I know ones will say "what you expect". But i think they were even too stupid to be bigots.  Just watch it, they are a laughing at "jokes" kids wouldn't find funny.  The socially deprived loyalist communities have been badly let down by their politicians and they now have left a new generation of uneducated, unemployable idiots as a burden on this society.