All Ireland senior football final 2012 Donegal v Mayo

[Syferus]

Didn't think it was too bad.

One interesting feature was the way they seemed to use footage from camera phones during various celebrations that may have been posted on Youtube. Would they have had to contact those Donegal fans to use this material or can a TV station simply show Youtube footage without recourse?

What is America's Game referred to a few posts above?

It's a documentary series on the each season's NFL Superbowl (American football) champions done by the league's official film unit, NFL Films. NFL Films pioneered the use of specially recorded slow(er)-motion pitch-side footage with microphones on the sidelines that pick up the contact. That's not to mention the coaches and players on the sidelines being record for reactions as well. The cover every single NFL game to make weekly highlights packages so when it comes to making other documentaries they have most of the footage they need to tell the story already in the vault. They also have a great feel for cutting together good interviews and keeping the stories of those said documentaries rolling.

Basically what RTE were mimicking in their stop-start slow-motion footage, though it seems very likely whatever pitch-side audio was recorded was poorly over-dubbed which made it sound like a fight scene from a Rocky film.

NFL Films are pretty much the gold standard of sports documentary and most every sports documentary since the 60's owes some level of debt to it. Even if you haven't a bit of interest in the sport it's hard for any sports fan not to appreciate how valuable it is to a sport to have it promoted so well and personalised so effectively.

Here's an example of their style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF8EnJzl7j0

If the GAA have some forward thinking they should work with a production company to document this year's AI finals in football and hurling in the same obsessive detail as NFL Films cover every single game of their sport.

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Thought it was interesting last night Jim talking about there being times when tactics go out the window and it becomes about being resilient. I honestly think mayo are the team to beat this year. If we ever play them again they'll be that little bit further up the pitch and try to squeeze the life out of us and others too I'd put money on it.

I don't you could say that Mayo are 'the team to beat' this year. They might be one of the contenders but I honestly think that Donegal will still be the team to beat this year followed by Dublin, Cork and Kerry in that order and then Mayo. Given that they almost have a free pass into the quarter finals they should be involved at the business end but I certainly wouldn't be putting any money on them.

of the teams donegal played this year, tyrone and mayo were the ones that disrupted our style of play, the running game from the back, the most. tyrone put pressure on us high up the field and mayo pressed us in our half. mayo's half backs did a great job of squeezing the play once we got the ball by moving up en masse. we had less room to move with the ball and it became a real dog fight to get the ball out of our half. most effective strategy i saw against us all year. for teams that play a swarm defence and run the ball a lot, it's a clever tactic. mayo had the gas and the bench too to play that way for the full 70+. they'll be fitter, more nuanced and better at what they do this year + will have am back. the rest need to watch out imo.   

[Syferus]

Mayo have a Connacht draw full of opportunities for the train to derail and teams more than capable on their days to do just that. It's a no win situation for Mayo next year in those games while for everyone else it's a chance to beat the AI finalists. Mayo have been impressive but history says only the very best teams from the west emerge as Connacht champions three years running - the last time Mayo did it was in 1950 as part of a four-in-a-row from '48-51 - and Mayo's record in the qualifers is poor.

Mayo reaching the AIQF stage by either door will be a statement that should worry whoever their opponents are.

[Captain Obvious]

Thought it was interesting last night Jim talking about there being times when tactics go out the window and it becomes about being resilient. I honestly think mayo are the team to beat this year. If we ever play them again they'll be that little bit further up the pitch and try to squeeze the life out of us and others too I'd put money on it.

I don't you could say that Mayo are 'the team to beat' this year. They might be one of the contenders but I honestly think that Donegal will still be the team to beat this year followed by Dublin, Cork and Kerry in that order and then Mayo. Given that they almost have a free pass into the quarter finals they should be involved at the business end but I certainly wouldn't be putting any money on them.

of the teams donegal played this year, tyrone and mayo were the ones that disrupted our style of play, the running game from the back, the most. tyrone put pressure on us high up the field and mayo pressed us in our half. mayo's half backs did a great job of squeezing the play once we got the ball by moving up en masse. we had less room to move with the ball and it became a real dog fight to get the ball out of our half. most effective strategy i saw against us all year. for teams that play a swarm defence and run the ball a lot, it's a clever tactic. mayo had the gas and the bench too to play that way for the full 70+. they'll be fitter, more nuanced and better at what they do this year + will have am back. the rest need to watch out imo.

The Mayo tactics wasn't too clever early on when they gave Donegal commanding cushion. Was said on last nights program Donegal played the game on their own terms and the All Ireland final was no different. Cork,Kerry,Dublin all have plenty to prove this year i'll be watching out for them more than Mayo.

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Mayo have a Connacht draw full of opportunities for the train to derail and teams more than capable on their days to do just that. It's a no win situation for Mayo next year in those games while for everyone else it's a chance to beat the AI finalists. Mayo have been impressive but history says only the very best teams from the west emerge as Connacht three years running - the last time Mayo did it was in 1950 as part of a four-in-a-row from '48-51 - and Mayo's record in the qualifers is poor. I think

Mayo reaching the AIQF stage by either door will be a statement that should worry whoever their opponent are.

reckon this mayo team don't pay much mind to history.

[cadence]

Thought it was interesting last night Jim talking about there being times when tactics go out the window and it becomes about being resilient. I honestly think mayo are the team to beat this year. If we ever play them again they'll be that little bit further up the pitch and try to squeeze the life out of us and others too I'd put money on it.

I don't you could say that Mayo are 'the team to beat' this year. They might be one of the contenders but I honestly think that Donegal will still be the team to beat this year followed by Dublin, Cork and Kerry in that order and then Mayo. Given that they almost have a free pass into the quarter finals they should be involved at the business end but I certainly wouldn't be putting any money on them.

of the teams donegal played this year, tyrone and mayo were the ones that disrupted our style of play, the running game from the back, the most. tyrone put pressure on us high up the field and mayo pressed us in our half. mayo's half backs did a great job of squeezing the play once we got the ball by moving up en masse. we had less room to move with the ball and it became a real dog fight to get the ball out of our half. most effective strategy i saw against us all year. for teams that play a swarm defence and run the ball a lot, it's a clever tactic. mayo had the gas and the bench too to play that way for the full 70+. they'll be fitter, more nuanced and better at what they do this year + will have am back. the rest need to watch out imo.

The Mayo tactics wasn't too clever early on when they gave Donegal commanding cushion. Was said on last nights program Donegal played the game on their own terms and the All Ireland final was no different. Cork,Kerry,Dublin all have plenty to prove this year i'll be watching out for them more than Mayo.

stinker of a start, but after that, it was tit-for-tat the whole way. had mayo taken their chances, the outcome would've been different. you could say the donegal defence makes it difficult for forwards to get into their groove, but mayo made it equally difficult for us to really get going. it was a finely balanced game in that regard. when it was put up to them, mayo didn't yield. add this steel and defensive intensity to them being good footballers with good tactical nous too, they'll be a fag paper way from it if they don't do it this year.

[INDIANA]

Mayo have a Connacht draw full of opportunities for the train to derail and teams more than capable on their days to do just that. It's a no win situation for Mayo next year in those games while for everyone else it's a chance to beat the AI finalists. Mayo have been impressive but history says only the very best teams from the west emerge as Connacht three years running - the last time Mayo did it was in 1950 as part of a four-in-a-row from '48-51 - and Mayo's record in the qualifers is poor. I think

Mayo reaching the AIQF stage by either door will be a statement that should worry whoever their opponent are.

reckon this mayo team don't pay much mind to history.

here's me thinking this  donegal team haven't beaten dublin yet.

thats right they haven't.

got confused for a moment,

[Captain Obvious]

Thought it was interesting last night Jim talking about there being times when tactics go out the window and it becomes about being resilient. I honestly think mayo are the team to beat this year. If we ever play them again they'll be that little bit further up the pitch and try to squeeze the life out of us and others too I'd put money on it.

I don't you could say that Mayo are 'the team to beat' this year. They might be one of the contenders but I honestly think that Donegal will still be the team to beat this year followed by Dublin, Cork and Kerry in that order and then Mayo. Given that they almost have a free pass into the quarter finals they should be involved at the business end but I certainly wouldn't be putting any money on them.

of the teams donegal played this year, tyrone and mayo were the ones that disrupted our style of play, the running game from the back, the most. tyrone put pressure on us high up the field and mayo pressed us in our half. mayo's half backs did a great job of squeezing the play once we got the ball by moving up en masse. we had less room to move with the ball and it became a real dog fight to get the ball out of our half. most effective strategy i saw against us all year. for teams that play a swarm defence and run the ball a lot, it's a clever tactic. mayo had the gas and the bench too to play that way for the full 70+. they'll be fitter, more nuanced and better at what they do this year + will have am back. the rest need to watch out imo.

The Mayo tactics wasn't too clever early on when they gave Donegal commanding cushion. Was said on last nights program Donegal played the game on their own terms and the All Ireland final was no different. Cork,Kerry,Dublin all have plenty to prove this year i'll be watching out for them more than Mayo.

stinker of a start, but after that, it was tit-for-tat the whole way. had mayo taken their chances, the outcome would've been different. you could say the donegal defence makes it difficult for forwards to get into their groove, but mayo made it equally difficult for us to really get going. it was a finely balanced game in that regard. when it was put up to them, mayo didn't yield. add this steel and defensive intensity to them being good footballers with good tactical nous too, they'll be a fag paper way from it if they don't do it this year.

Some have said that Donegal didn't play as well in the All Ireland final as they did vs Tyrone,Kerry,Cork. Wasn't the first final Mayo didn't take their chances and unless they find two or three better forwards the outcome will remain the same.

[Syferus]

Donegal played much better against Mayo than they did against Kerry. Tyrone was just a good old Ulster war of attrition while the Cork performance was their obvious stand-out.

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it's about getting over the line. they were closer this year and might have won it if they didn't get off to such a bad start. how they came back in that final will be the making of them. they will not want to experience that again.

@ syferus, we were not great against mayo. good enough to close it out, but they disrupted us and it was them controlling the game and giving as good as they got for large parts of it.

it's all speculation i know, but i can't see mayo not being an even tighter prospect this year. they'll hardly lack hunger. they'll piss connacht. 

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Mayo have a Connacht draw full of opportunities for the train to derail and teams more than capable on their days to do just that. It's a no win situation for Mayo next year in those games while for everyone else it's a chance to beat the AI finalists. Mayo have been impressive but history says only the very best teams from the west emerge as Connacht three years running - the last time Mayo did it was in 1950 as part of a four-in-a-row from '48-51 - and Mayo's record in the qualifers is poor. I think

Mayo reaching the AIQF stage by either door will be a statement that should worry whoever their opponent are.

reckon this mayo team don't pay much mind to history.

here's me thinking this  donegal team haven't beaten dublin yet.

thats right they haven't.

got confused for a moment,

we'd have done you, even the dogs in the street know that.

[Rossfan]

i can't see mayo not being an even tighter prospect this year. they'll hardly lack hunger. they'll piss connacht.

There could be a lot of GAA boarders dragging that comment up next May/June 

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i can't see mayo not being an even tighter prospect this year. they'll hardly lack hunger. they'll piss connacht.

There could be a lot of GAA boarders dragging that comment up next May/June 

they'll still piss on the rest of connacht 

[GalwayBayBoy]

it's all speculation i know, but i can't see mayo not being an even tighter prospect this year. they'll hardly lack hunger. they'll piss connacht.

They didn't even piss Connacht last year with an easy draw given they barely squeaked past Sligo in the Connacht final. I doubt they will this year either with a substantially more difficult schedule ahead of them. They are definitely favourites but they will certainly be made to work for it.

[From the Bunker]

it's all speculation i know, but i can't see mayo not being an even tighter prospect this year. they'll hardly lack hunger. they'll piss connacht.

They didn't even piss Connacht last year with an easy draw given they barely squeaked past Sligo in the Connacht final. I doubt they will this year either with a substantially more difficult schedule ahead of them. They are definitely favourites but they will certainly be made to work for it.

Ah, Mayo never looked like losing the Connacht final! The Connacht final was Sligo's big game of the year, and no offence but it was not Mayo's. So there were peaking issues. Every year is different, Mayo in 1995 got whipped by Galway in Connacht and the following year Mayo won Connacht and (As usual) nearly won an AI. Mayo will be favourites, but it's no done deal!