Cill Dara v Luimneach

Started by Donnellys Hollow, July 16, 2012, 08:57:27 AM

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rodney trotter

Johnston seemed to have done well last night. Obviously I'd wish if he was still playing with Cavan but don't begrudge him playing with Kildare now. He got an extended bit of game time with the extra time so that would have helped. Do ye reckon he will start against Sligo?

Dinny Breen

Quote from: rodney trotter on July 22, 2012, 11:14:41 AM
Johnston seemed to have done well last night. Obviously I'd wish if he was still playing with Cavan but don't begrudge him playing with Kildare now. He got an extended bit of game time with the extra time so that would have helped. Do ye reckon he will start against Sligo?


See Kildare v Sligo match thread.
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Dont Matter

There seemed to be some controversy about a Johnston wide. Was anyone there that got a good view of it confirm if it was over or not? What was the score when this score wasn't given?
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Dinny Breen

Quote from: Dont Matter on July 22, 2012, 11:25:16 AM
There seemed to be some controversy about a Johnston wide. Was anyone there that got a good view of it confirm if it was over or not? What was the score when this score wasn't given?

It was a two point game, Doyle has scored a 40m free and it was 11-9 to Limerick at the time. We scored immediately after it I think from James Kavanagh but it might have changed the dynamic slightly but fortunately it didn't matter.
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Whishtup

I've listened to Limerick Live95's commentary on the last few Limerick games-RTE  should get these boys on board-brilliant commentary and hilarious analogies.  A hard pill to swallow for Limerick.

The Burner

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 22, 2012, 09:41:09 AM
QuoteFootballers are a credit to the county. The lack of support they get from the Limerick public is shameful and embarrassing.

Real shame as they put everything on the line, Stephen Kelly I thought was inspirational tonight, he lost it at the end but I would empathy with him but wouldn't have minded have seen himself and McGeeney going toe to toe as they looked they might at one stage. They certainly got the respect of the Kildare supporters last night.

QuoteIan Ryan just different class, Kildare basically had to put two men on him.

Do you think? He was good but the reason Kildare had 2 men on him was every other Limerick player was in defence, would like to have seen him with better support but then he wouldn't have had the same space to operate in so he was good but definitely not different class.

Quotethought the cheer that greeted Seanie Johnston was utterly cringe worthy

Bizarre statement, Kildare were losing the game and needed a spark of inspiration, to me it was quite simply the Kildare fans realising we needed something different and bringing on this guy who has been vilified from pillar to post was the right thing, many in Kildare don't agree with the transfer but nobody in Kildare likes the way he has been treated by the GAA, the media and in particular social media, he has become an anti-hero. And he and Fogarty gave us something different, he scored what I and everyone else thought was a brilliant point but it wasn't given but he worked hard and scored 2 good points. He wasn't game changing but his introduction definitely helped swing the momentum in our favour.

QuoteNo doubt the "experts" will pay us the usual bullsh1t Lip service. Well Done Limerick A credit to the county.

Why the need for validation from the media, last night was real 'Rumble in the Jungle' stuff expect in this case Foreman won through, Limerick fought tooth and nail last night, they are true and honest to each other as a team, that's all the validation they need, they do not need some RTE mickey mouse pundit eulogising them. Be careful what you wish for, Kildare were the media darlings having won nothing of substance and now look where we are, public enemy number one with our epitaph already written, they're only waiting for the day we lose to print it.  I would actually say both teams were a credit to their county and to the country, it was a pity this game wasn't televised because it would have proved a good anti-dote to Killarney.

Anyhow from a Kildare perspective it's hard to know where we stand, we don't know our best team and our best full-back Foley was simply immense at midfield, we will need Flynn or even Lynch for next weekend and I expect to see some rotation to counter the the burden of playing our 4th game in 5 weeks. With that in mind Johnson, O'Neill, Fogarty, Leper, Chalky all put up their hands for selection last night as they did well albebit against a tiring Limerick team, when they came on.

Also a had a good close up look at young Eoin Doyle last night, he was excellent and if maintains this progress we are looking at the next Glenn Ryan.

Sligo will be a different proposition and a bit of a hoodoo team, going to be very hard but sure it's all part of the Kildare adventure.

The key point about footballers getting credit from Mickey mouse Sunday games pundits is that it might get some Mickey Mouse Limerick supporters of their arses and support them, Being continually dismissed by media and pundits only heightens the apathy around Limerick to the football them. Kildare people around me must of thought I was mad but I have to try make myself heard because there are so little of us. Honestly Dinny have seen such a difference numbers wise in the stand as you did tonight? Im not looking for the support the hurlers get but 3000 or 4000 supporters to try lift the team when they need it would be nice. As for Ian Ryan, the lad destroyed Peter Kelly in the 1st half Kildare had a man sweep in front of him which cut of the supply. Limerick did as I expected play with a 2 man forward line. As for Seanie Johnston. Didnt thing he did much. Got 2 nice points in extra time but in the heat of 70 minutes didnt do anything. A bit like Brolly predicted really.

Stephen Kelly is an inspiration really and some of the stuff Kildare supporters were shouting at him was uncalled for. Lost the head a bit at the end which was sad to see but I can understand why. He is basically our version of Johnny Doyle, Has soldiered long and hard with the Limerick team.

Chin up lads.

The Burner

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 22, 2012, 11:32:51 AM
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 22, 2012, 11:25:16 AM
There seemed to be some controversy about a Johnston wide. Was anyone there that got a good view of it confirm if it was over or not? What was the score when this score wasn't given?

It was a two point game, Doyle has scored a 40m free and it was 11-9 to Limerick at the time. We scored immediately after it I think from James Kavanagh but it might have changed the dynamic slightly but fortunately it didn't matter.

There was controversy over an Ian Ryan free in the 1st half as well. Kildare fans will argues Johnston was over, Ill Argue Ians was over

mylestheslasher

Burner - you are righ about Kildare fans and johnston in my opinion. I was embarrassed for some of the genuine Kildare supporters when he came on against Cavan. They were roaring and cheering and had a good few posters made up in his honour. All this for a blow in entering a game that was already won with only 8 minutes left. Dinnys explanation above does not apply to this scenario. My dislike of Johnstone is well known and I'm glad he has been found out by all in Cavan and is now gone but I still find it sad that Kildare "fans" behaved like that.

Hard luck to Limerick, seems they had a game plan that almost worked and for the life of me I don't know why Cavan didn't try something similar against them the week before. Kildare are a decent side, although whether good enough to win sam I seriously doubt it, Sligo will be similar test to Limerick but remains to be seen how they would react to losing the connacht final to Mayo.

Syferus

Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 22, 2012, 12:02:21 PM
Burner - you are righ about Kildare fans and johnston in my opinion. I was embarrassed for some of the genuine Kildare supporters when he came on against Cavan. They were roaring and cheering and had a good few posters made up in his honour. All this for a blow in entering a game that was already won with only 8 minutes left. Dinnys explanation above does not apply to this scenario. My dislike of Johnstone is well known and I'm glad he has been found out by all in Cavan and is now gone but I still find it sad that Kildare "fans" behaved like that.

Hard luck to Limerick, seems they had a game plan that almost worked and for the life of me I don't know why Cavan didn't try something similar against them the week before. Kildare are a decent side, although whether good enough to win sam I seriously doubt it, Sligo will be similar test to Limerick but remains to be seen how they would react to losing the connacht final to Mayo.

I can't believe anyone would be surprised by it. The issue became a way for alot of quarters to smear Kildare and alot of supporters who had no roles at all in the circus. The response to him coming on was more shaking their fist at the rest of the world rather than lauding the man himself. To be expected and on alot of levels I was completely non-plussed by it.

Donnellys Hollow

Poor performance. Same old failings but in fairness to the players they showed serious heart and bottle to grab the draw. I don't think too many players will be happy with their performances but we're still in it which is the only thing that matters. Kevin Walsh and Sligo won't be losing any sleep though.

I think all Kildare supporters owe Mick Foley a drink because he was simply immense. Head and shoulders above everyone on the field and drove Kildare on when Limerick were all over us. His block late in the second half was the turning point.
There's Seán Brady going in, what dya think Seán?

Donnellys Hollow

Quote from: Dont Matter on July 22, 2012, 11:25:16 AM
There seemed to be some controversy about a Johnston wide. Was anyone there that got a good view of it confirm if it was over or not? What was the score when this score wasn't given?

Thought it was wide myself.

There was an Ian Ryan free in the first half which was waved wide that looked fairly debatable.
There's Seán Brady going in, what dya think Seán?

Dinny Breen

Quote from: The Burner on July 22, 2012, 11:43:06 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 22, 2012, 09:41:09 AM
QuoteFootballers are a credit to the county. The lack of support they get from the Limerick public is shameful and embarrassing.

Real shame as they put everything on the line, Stephen Kelly I thought was inspirational tonight, he lost it at the end but I would empathy with him but wouldn't have minded have seen himself and McGeeney going toe to toe as they looked they might at one stage. They certainly got the respect of the Kildare supporters last night.

QuoteIan Ryan just different class, Kildare basically had to put two men on him.

Do you think? He was good but the reason Kildare had 2 men on him was every other Limerick player was in defence, would like to have seen him with better support but then he wouldn't have had the same space to operate in so he was good but definitely not different class.

Quotethought the cheer that greeted Seanie Johnston was utterly cringe worthy

Bizarre statement, Kildare were losing the game and needed a spark of inspiration, to me it was quite simply the Kildare fans realising we needed something different and bringing on this guy who has been vilified from pillar to post was the right thing, many in Kildare don't agree with the transfer but nobody in Kildare likes the way he has been treated by the GAA, the media and in particular social media, he has become an anti-hero. And he and Fogarty gave us something different, he scored what I and everyone else thought was a brilliant point but it wasn't given but he worked hard and scored 2 good points. He wasn't game changing but his introduction definitely helped swing the momentum in our favour.

QuoteNo doubt the "experts" will pay us the usual bullsh1t Lip service. Well Done Limerick A credit to the county.

Why the need for validation from the media, last night was real 'Rumble in the Jungle' stuff expect in this case Foreman won through, Limerick fought tooth and nail last night, they are true and honest to each other as a team, that's all the validation they need, they do not need some RTE mickey mouse pundit eulogising them. Be careful what you wish for, Kildare were the media darlings having won nothing of substance and now look where we are, public enemy number one with our epitaph already written, they're only waiting for the day we lose to print it.  I would actually say both teams were a credit to their county and to the country, it was a pity this game wasn't televised because it would have proved a good anti-dote to Killarney.

Anyhow from a Kildare perspective it's hard to know where we stand, we don't know our best team and our best full-back Foley was simply immense at midfield, we will need Flynn or even Lynch for next weekend and I expect to see some rotation to counter the the burden of playing our 4th game in 5 weeks. With that in mind Johnson, O'Neill, Fogarty, Leper, Chalky all put up their hands for selection last night as they did well albebit against a tiring Limerick team, when they came on.

Also a had a good close up look at young Eoin Doyle last night, he was excellent and if maintains this progress we are looking at the next Glenn Ryan.

Sligo will be a different proposition and a bit of a hoodoo team, going to be very hard but sure it's all part of the Kildare adventure.

The key point about footballers getting credit from Mickey mouse Sunday games pundits is that it might get some Mickey Mouse Limerick supporters of their arses and support them, Being continually dismissed by media and pundits only heightens the apathy around Limerick to the football them. Kildare people around me must of thought I was mad but I have to try make myself heard because there are so little of us. Honestly Dinny have seen such a difference numbers wise in the stand as you did tonight? Im not looking for the support the hurlers get but 3000 or 4000 supporters to try lift the team when they need it would be nice. As for Ian Ryan, the lad destroyed Peter Kelly in the 1st half Kildare had a man sweep in front of him which cut of the supply. Limerick did as I expected play with a 2 man forward line. As for Seanie Johnston. Didnt thing he did much. Got 2 nice points in extra time but in the heat of 70 minutes didnt do anything. A bit like Brolly predicted really.

Stephen Kelly is an inspiration really and some of the stuff Kildare supporters were shouting at him was uncalled for. Lost the head a bit at the end which was sad to see but I can understand why. He is basically our version of Johnny Doyle, Has soldiered long and hard with the Limerick team.

Chin up lads.

Good point about the media and exposure, a pity it's required because does Limerick gave everything for the shirt and do deserve better. In fairness Kildare outnumber every county support wise except Dublin but only when we played Leitrim in Newbridge a few years ago in the qualifiers have seen such a disparity.

I never pay to much heed to comments from supporters, it's generally heat of the moment stuff and every county has them. Look if you're honest Kelly should have been sent off, he floored Doyle, boxed O'Callaghan in the stomach and then went for a 3rd Kildare player while that imp Cassidy stood only 15 metres away but I have empathy for him and understand. He was an absolute thorn in Kildare's side, a real warrior, seems as Doyle who was shocking for the 1st 60 mins but his late free was inspirational and really helped push us on.
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trasna man

Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on July 22, 2012, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 22, 2012, 11:25:16 AM
There seemed to be some controversy about a Johnston wide. Was anyone there that got a good view of it confirm if it was over or not? What was the score when this score wasn't given?

Thought it was wide myself.

There was an Ian Ryan free in the first half which was waved wide that looked fairly debatable.
had a great view both were wide very tight but definitely wide. ;)

Donnellys Hollow

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 22, 2012, 09:41:09 AM
Also a had a good close up look at young Eoin Doyle last night, he was excellent and if maintains this progress we are looking at the next Glenn Ryan.

No pressure then!!  ;D
There's Seán Brady going in, what dya think Seán?

The Burner

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Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 22, 2012, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: The Burner on July 22, 2012, 11:43:06 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 22, 2012, 09:41:09 AM
QuoteFootballers are a credit to the county. The lack of support they get from the Limerick public is shameful and embarrassing.

Real shame as they put everything on the line, Stephen Kelly I thought was inspirational tonight, he lost it at the end but I would empathy with him but wouldn't have minded have seen himself and McGeeney going toe to toe as they looked they might at one stage. They certainly got the respect of the Kildare supporters last night.

QuoteIan Ryan just different class, Kildare basically had to put two men on him.

Do you think? He was good but the reason Kildare had 2 men on him was every other Limerick player was in defence, would like to have seen him with better support but then he wouldn't have had the same space to operate in so he was good but definitely not different class.

Quotethought the cheer that greeted Seanie Johnston was utterly cringe worthy

Bizarre statement, Kildare were losing the game and needed a spark of inspiration, to me it was quite simply the Kildare fans realising we needed something different and bringing on this guy who has been vilified from pillar to post was the right thing, many in Kildare don't agree with the transfer but nobody in Kildare likes the way he has been treated by the GAA, the media and in particular social media, he has become an anti-hero. And he and Fogarty gave us something different, he scored what I and everyone else thought was a brilliant point but it wasn't given but he worked hard and scored 2 good points. He wasn't game changing but his introduction definitely helped swing the momentum in our favour.

QuoteNo doubt the "experts" will pay us the usual bullsh1t Lip service. Well Done Limerick A credit to the county.

Why the need for validation from the media, last night was real 'Rumble in the Jungle' stuff expect in this case Foreman won through, Limerick fought tooth and nail last night, they are true and honest to each other as a team, that's all the validation they need, they do not need some RTE mickey mouse pundit eulogising them. Be careful what you wish for, Kildare were the media darlings having won nothing of substance and now look where we are, public enemy number one with our epitaph already written, they're only waiting for the day we lose to print it.  I would actually say both teams were a credit to their county and to the country, it was a pity this game wasn't televised because it would have proved a good anti-dote to Killarney.

Anyhow from a Kildare perspective it's hard to know where we stand, we don't know our best team and our best full-back Foley was simply immense at midfield, we will need Flynn or even Lynch for next weekend and I expect to see some rotation to counter the the burden of playing our 4th game in 5 weeks. With that in mind Johnson, O'Neill, Fogarty, Leper, Chalky all put up their hands for selection last night as they did well albebit against a tiring Limerick team, when they came on.

Also a had a good close up look at young Eoin Doyle last night, he was excellent and if maintains this progress we are looking at the next Glenn Ryan.

Sligo will be a different proposition and a bit of a hoodoo team, going to be very hard but sure it's all part of the Kildare adventure.

The key point about footballers getting credit from Mickey mouse Sunday games pundits is that it might get some Mickey Mouse Limerick supporters of their arses and support them, Being continually dismissed by media and pundits only heightens the apathy around Limerick to the football them. Kildare people around me must of thought I was mad but I have to try make myself heard because there are so little of us. Honestly Dinny have seen such a difference numbers wise in the stand as you did tonight? Im not looking for the support the hurlers get but 3000 or 4000 supporters to try lift the team when they need it would be nice. As for Ian Ryan, the lad destroyed Peter Kelly in the 1st half Kildare had a man sweep in front of him which cut of the supply. Limerick did as I expected play with a 2 man forward line. As for Seanie Johnston. Didnt thing he did much. Got 2 nice points in extra time but in the heat of 70 minutes didnt do anything. A bit like Brolly predicted really.

Stephen Kelly is an inspiration really and some of the stuff Kildare supporters were shouting at him was uncalled for. Lost the head a bit at the end which was sad to see but I can understand why. He is basically our version of Johnny Doyle, Has soldiered long and hard with the Limerick team.

Chin up lads.

Good point about the media and exposure, a pity it's required because does Limerick gave everything for the shirt and do deserve better. In fairness Kildare outnumber every county support wise except Dublin but only when we played Leitrim in Newbridge a few years ago in the qualifiers have seen such a disparity.

I never pay to much heed to comments from supporters, it's generally heat of the moment stuff and every county has them. Look if you're honest Kelly should have been sent off, he floored Doyle, boxed O'Callaghan in the stomach and then went for a 3rd Kildare player while that imp Cassidy stood only 15 metres away but I have empathy for him and understand. He was an absolute thorn in Kildare's side, a real warrior, seems as Doyle who was shocking for the 1st 60 mins but his late free was inspirational and really helped push us on.

Ya no arguments he should have been sent off, the frustration got the better of him but Id never criticise the man He has soldiered with Limerick for year and is probably close to the end now. Im not after some personal gratification by jumping up and down about being a Limerick football supporter just trying to do my bit to raise the profile. I might go a bit overboard at time but most supporters do. I mean Spillane last night on the Sunday game again putting us down "this a team that lost to Clare, and we all saw how bad they were against Cork". Yes Pat we lost to Clare it can happen on a given day , but we are a team who got to an All-Ireland quarter final, have put it up to Cork everytime we have played them over the last few years. We have quality footballers like Johnny McCarthy, Ian Ryan, Pa Ranahan, Seanie Buckley, John O Riordan, Ger Collins, Stephen Kelly. I mean Johnny McCarthy  would get on any team in the country and outside of Munster he has probably never even been heard of.

I wouldn't be Mcgeeney s biggest fan but at least he alluded to some of the above points after the match. There are counties all over Ireland who could learn a lot from the Limerick footballers. They go out every year written off by everyone, being sneered at by people from their own county, Being treated with sheer ignorance by the media. They don't do it for the fame or glamour of it all. Outside of John Galvin and Ian Ryan not many would be recognised on the streets of Limerick, They do it for the love of the jersey and pride in their county. People asking before the game how I thought they'd get on and I wasn't worried. I Knew regardless of it all they would give everything and id walk out of O Moore park proud to be a Limerick football supporter, Ill retire to my shell until next year Dinny but Ill be back again next year championing the cause because someone has to do it. Best of Luck to ye for the rest of the year and keep the faith.