DJ Carey

[Truthsayer]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see what will be gained by rubbernecking at people who lost a lot of money and the personal tragedy of someone who has their own issues.
Tittle-tattle and gossips sells, probably.

What possible 'issues' would lead to such scummy behaviour?... and using his hurling genius to exploit/con people in such a way makes it all the more loathsome. It's horrendous a man who was loved and reveered by so many turns out to be the dregs of humanity..

[Baile Brigín 2]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see what will be gained by rubbernecking at people who lost a lot of money and the personal tragedy of someone who has their own issues.
Tittle-tattle and gossips sells, probably.

Were you opposed to the genre of true crime all along or just when a hurler became the topic?

[Stripey Cat]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see what will be gained by rubbernecking at people who lost a lot of money and the personal tragedy of someone who has their own issues.
Tittle-tattle and gossips sells, probably.

What possible 'issues' would lead to such scummy behaviour?... and using his hurling genius to exploit/con people in such a way makes it all the more loathsome. It's horrendous a man who was loved and reveered by so many turns out to be the dregs of humanity..

He used his fame to take advantage, but clearly the man has underlying issues.

If someone wants to make a few quid out of a book and exploit the situation, then we just have to accept that.

[Franko]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see what will be gained by rubbernecking at people who lost a lot of money and the personal tragedy of someone who has their own issues.
Tittle-tattle and gossips sells, probably.

What possible 'issues' would lead to such scummy behaviour?... and using his hurling genius to exploit/con people in such a way makes it all the more loathsome. It's horrendous a man who was loved and reveered by so many turns out to be the dregs of humanity..

He used his fame to take advantage, but clearly the man has underlying issues.

If someone wants to make a few quid out of a book and exploit the situation, then we just have to accept that.

Ah now don't be playing the oul mental health card

Most times the underlying issue is that a fella is just a bit of a cnut

[Truthsayer]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see what will be gained by rubbernecking at people who lost a lot of money and the personal tragedy of someone who has their own issues.
Tittle-tattle and gossips sells, probably.

What possible 'issues' would lead to such scummy behaviour?... and using his hurling genius to exploit/con people in such a way makes it all the more loathsome. It's horrendous a man who was loved and reveered by so many turns out to be the dregs of humanity..

He used his fame to take advantage, but clearly the man has underlying issues.

If someone wants to make a few quid out of a book and exploit the situation, then we just have to accept that.

Are you a psychologist or seen his medical notes? Issue he has is a severe lack of morals...

[johnnycool]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see what will be gained by rubbernecking at people who lost a lot of money and the personal tragedy of someone who has their own issues.
Tittle-tattle and gossips sells, probably.

What possible 'issues' would lead to such scummy behaviour?... and using his hurling genius to exploit/con people in such a way makes it all the more loathsome. It's horrendous a man who was loved and reveered by so many turns out to be the dregs of humanity..

He used his fame to take advantage, but clearly the man has underlying issues.

If someone wants to make a few quid out of a book and exploit the situation, then we just have to accept that.

Are you a psychologist or seen his medical notes? Issue he has is a severe lack of morals...

He's a greedy **** who got caught out and he's got off lightly so far.

[Truthsayer]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see what will be gained by rubbernecking at people who lost a lot of money and the personal tragedy of someone who has their own issues.
Tittle-tattle and gossips sells, probably.

What possible 'issues' would lead to such scummy behaviour?... and using his hurling genius to exploit/con people in such a way makes it all the more loathsome. It's horrendous a man who was loved and reveered by so many turns out to be the dregs of humanity..

He used his fame to take advantage, but clearly the man has underlying issues.

If someone wants to make a few quid out of a book and exploit the situation, then we just have to accept that.

Are you a psychologist or seen his medical notes? Issue he has is a severe lack of morals...

He's a greedy **** who got caught out and he's got off lightly so far.

I don't disagree with you and to fake cancer to con people is appaling...

[gallsman]

He's a greedy **** who got caught out and he's got off lightly so far.

I grew up idolising the man. Still do to an extent. Will happily throw down with any clearly incorrect tosspot who continues to insist that Brian Whelahan was better and deserved to be on the Team of the Millennium ahead of him.

But he's a disgrace. DJ did rightly from "being DJ Carey" in his playing days. Think he got a bit too fond of the life of celebrity and its trappings.

[johnnycool]

He's a greedy **** who got caught out and he's got off lightly so far.

I grew up idolising the man. Still do to an extent. Will happily throw down with any clearly incorrect tosspot who continues to insist that Brian Whelahan was better and deserved to be on the Team of the Millennium ahead of him.

But he's a disgrace. DJ did rightly from "being DJ Carey" in his playing days. Think he got a bit too fond of the life of celebrity and it's trappings.

Yeah, absolutely fantastic hurler and one of the best of his generation when Kilkenny weren't winning things by the bucket load, you will never be able to take that away from him.

[NAG1]

He's a greedy **** who got caught out and he's got off lightly so far.

I grew up idolising the man. Still do to an extent. Will happily throw down with any clearly incorrect tosspot who continues to insist that Brian Whelahan was better and deserved to be on the Team of the Millennium ahead of him.

But he's a disgrace. DJ did rightly from "being DJ Carey" in his playing days. Think he got a bit too fond of the life of celebrity and it's trappings.

Yeah, absolutely fantastic hurler and one of the best of his generation when Kilkenny weren't winning things by the bucket load, you will never be able to take that away from him.

Yeah JC never will be able to, but doesn't amount to anything now. He will be glossed over for ever more in the game.
Instead of being talked about with the absolute greats he will more or less be erased now. His own doing.

Always got the impression from the KK squads around that time that he was never really that popular, always made me wonder what it was about him. Even back then they seemed to have known something about him.

[gallsman]

DJ was always popular, both inside and outside of Kilkenny, and continued to be long after he retired. He was a highly accomplished and well regarded coach. To me, he was the first true superstar of the GAA in the modern era, and he bridged several eras in the GAA. He was winning All Irelands in the old Croke Park rememeber.

I remember the first year they introduced the back door in the hurling championship in 1997, where the Munster/Leinster runners-up played Galway/Antrim. They'd been poor enough for a few years and were a distant third behind Offaly and Wexford in Leinster. They were getting outplayed by Galway in Thurles and he scored either 2-7 or 2-8 to essentially win it for them on his own. I was only 10 and it's still up there with the greatest individual performances I've ever seen.

But his life was a lie and he'll have to live with that.

[Milltown Row2]

Champion handballer also. But I'm sorry to say, pretty dead to me now.

I can get financial ruin, and how living to certain standards may push someone to cook the books and cream something off the top, but this person used (for me anyways) cancer as method to steal peoples money..

The fact that his sister was in on it too shows a serious lack of awareness when the shit was going to hit the fan, cause I'm unsure as to how this was going to be hidden forever! 

[Bord na Mona man]

He's a greedy **** who got caught out and he's got off lightly so far.

I grew up idolising the man. Still do to an extent. Will happily throw down with any clearly incorrect tosspot who continues to insist that Brian Whelahan was better and deserved to be on the Team of the Millennium ahead of him.

But he's a disgrace. DJ did rightly from "being DJ Carey" in his playing days. Think he got a bit too fond of the life of celebrity and its trappings.

When the Millennium team was picked in 1999 there had been a growing suspicion that Carey was a player who could rack up scores against weaker teams in less consequential matches, but didn't deliver in tight, crunch matches.

It wasn't without foundation either, he'd been just held scoreless from play in both the 1998 and 1999 All Ireland finals when Kilkenny lost narrowly. 

I don't buy into any notion that Carey toiled in an era of Kilkenny being weak. He had played in 5 All Ireland finals by that stage. That's the usual excuse trotted by hurling superpowers to deflect credit away from non-traditional counties having success. Wexford and Offaly had the upper hand on Kilkenny at various times in the mid-90s, but there was never much in it. Why doesn't TJ Reid warrant the same boosterism since Kilkenny haven't won one in 10 years?

I don't believe it should have been an either/or with Whelahan either. They were two different players. But if we were to compare, Whelahan consistently delivered the big performances in big matches. Invariably Man-of-the match in the 6 All Irelands he won with Birr and Offaly. 
Most memorably in 1998, having woken up with the flu, and out of sorts in defence and had to be moved up into the forwards. There he scored 1-3 from play and won the game for Offaly. Meanwhile Carey drew a blank, including blazing a penalty over the bar with the game in the balance.

[gallsman]

Of course it wasn't one or the other given the positions they played, but Whelahan was the only active player at the time it was picked and Carey was the biggest name left out, so they'll always be thrown together.

None of which is to discredit just how phenomenal a hurler Whelahan was, I just always thought and continue to think DJ was better.

1998 will always be a disaster and a black mark against any Kilkenny player. They fixed it two years later though. DJ scored, what, 1-03 in that final? A final where they also tried throwing Whelahan up front and it didn't work...

[Bord na Mona man]

The 2000 final was after the team was picked though. Carey made hay that day, unfortunately against an ailing Offaly side and somewhat banished the ghosts of previous finals.

In terms of greatness, there's a good chance Carey was better than Ray Cummins who seemed a bizarre selection at FF. I'd rate players like Tony Kelly, TJ and Henry ahead of DJ because they had greater ability to influence and control matches and drag their team over the line. DJ operated closer to goal and needed a supply line. Also, he could be snuffed out by a tight marker too.