Congress Mass going ahead as planned

Started by shawshank, March 15, 2012, 03:52:21 PM

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The Iceman

Quote from: Tubberman on March 16, 2012, 01:27:46 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 16, 2012, 01:24:55 PM
There is nothing wrong with including God in anything the GAA does.

Which God are we talking about now?

The God worshiped by the Saints so many teams in Ireland are named after. The God who has been worshiped in Ireland for centuries.

I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

thejuice



those GAA medals, something strikingly christian about them too, no?

Or perhaps a its pre-chrisitan sunwheel*.




*which early chrisitans co-opted to form what we call today the "Celtic Cross".
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

Applesisapples

Quote from: Maguire01 on March 15, 2012, 07:28:38 PM
I didn't realise this was practice. Does this mean that Jack Boothman had to sit through Mass when he was President?

I have no problem with people going to Mass, but I don't see why it should be part of the programme for a secular organisation. And i'd say the same if the IFA or Ulster Rugby were having a Service for one of the Protestant denominations as part of their congress (or equivalent). The GAA is not a Catholic organisation, it's an Irish sporting and cultural organisation.
Exactly it has no mandate to be multi cuktural. I think if more people attended religious services, whether mass or other Ireland would be a better place. That said I think that an ecumenical service would probably be a better option.

The Iceman

What we're seeing is a systematic effort by a minority of people to remove God from everything and anything.....
The world they are striving for I believe wouldn't be a great place for any of us.

This has nothing to do with the GAA or the Congress, this is about a small group of people's hate for God and religion.....
I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

Tubberman

Quote from: The Iceman on March 16, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
What we're seeing is a systematic effort by a minority of people to remove God from everything and anything.....
The world they are striving for I believe wouldn't be a great place for any of us.

This has nothing to do with the GAA or the Congress, this is about a small group of people's hate for God and religion.....

I don't think it's possible to hate something you don't think exists.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

The Iceman

It's very possible to hate the concept otherwise why bother......
I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

seafoid

Quote from: The Iceman on March 16, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
What we're seeing is a systematic effort by a minority of people to remove God from everything and anything.....
The world they are striving for I believe wouldn't be a great place for any of us.

This has nothing to do with the GAA or the Congress, this is about a small group of people's hate for God and religion.....

That's over the top, Iceman. Through him with him in him in the unity of the holy spirit. How can God be removed from everything ?
Hardy has obviously been sent by God to test you.   


bailestil

Quote from: Applesisapples on March 16, 2012, 03:05:33 PM
I think if more people attended religious services, whether mass or other Ireland would be a better place.

So sitting in a Chapel, for 1 hour a week will make Ireland a better place?
I've heard it all now.

Hardy

Quote from: The Iceman on March 16, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
What we're seeing is a systematic effort by a minority of people to remove God from everything and anything.....
The world they are striving for I believe wouldn't be a great place for any of us.

This has nothing to do with the GAA or the Congress, this is about a small group of people's hate for God and religion.....

It's amazing how people see "hate" in everything. If I disagree with you, you accuse me of hating you. Get a bit of perspective. And a grip.

I forget who I'm quoting but you seem to be confusing a war on your religion with not always getting what you want.

The Iceman

Quote from: Hardy on March 16, 2012, 03:44:07 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 16, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
What we're seeing is a systematic effort by a minority of people to remove God from everything and anything.....
The world they are striving for I believe wouldn't be a great place for any of us.

This has nothing to do with the GAA or the Congress, this is about a small group of people's hate for God and religion.....

It's amazing how people see "hate" in everything. If I disagree with you, you accuse me of hating you. Get a bit of perspective. And a grip.

I forget who I'm quoting but you seem to be confusing a war on your religion with not always getting what you want.
So you can make assumptions but I can't..... hmmmm

I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

camanchero

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 15, 2012, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: camanchero on March 15, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
lots of people have short memories. The Catholic church have help promote the GAA, but not vice versa and they dont whinge about it.

The catholic church opposed the GAA from the start because they were concerned about it affecting attendances (and hence contributions) at mass. Archibishop Croke was so revered by the early organization because he was the exception to the rule, most of the rest of the clergy was preaching for the people to stay away from the games.

"Short memories" indeed.
Yes short memory and blinkers too it seems!
Maybe some of the hierarchy and a few priests were against the GAA but the massive majority both organized, publicized and played football and hurling and have grounds named after them in a lot of areas including our own fr McNally park!

If some folks on here took a step back and stopped getting their knickers in a twist - other religions can easily request that a ceremony of their own can happen simultaneously as the catholic mass or before/after congress etc - the only people to miss out will be the heathens/agnostics but a tea break would surely suffice them.
The opportunity is there for other groups so don't knock the Gaa if the opportunity isn't taken.
No sectarianism at all.
It's not even the Gaa promoting religion, it's showing respect for them ( currently only Catholicism that's taking up the slot right now- there could easily be more) .

Hardy

Other communities can easily request that a team of their own can play simultaneously as the protestant NI team.

The opportunity is there for other groups so don't knock the IFA if the opportunity isn't taken.

No sectarianism at all.

It's not even the IFA promoting the interests of one community, it's just showing respect for them (currently only loyalism is taking up the slot - there could easily be more) .

The Iceman

you can't draw comparisons that way Hardy. You're not comparing apples to apples.
You're simply twisting.....

This doesn't have to be a huge issue but if enough Jack Russels make enough noise then maybe someone will listen and the Jack Russells will feel like real dogs.....
I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: Give and Go on March 16, 2012, 09:57:52 AM
Ye pseudo liberals have this country driven mad. Referring to the Catholic Church as a 'sect' by a poster rally sums it up.
This country is more concerned with catering for the minority weather than the majority in every area of life.
Fact is we are still Catholic in the main and a spiritual celebration is an important time for reflection. There are many religions but we can't have multiple services. The main one suffices.
Ive attended American Football games and players there regularly take to their knees before and after games to say a short prayer. No one condemns them, rather they are applauded for it.
Tolerance my ******. As long as you agree with the minority lefty liberals point of view.

Phew, at least you didn't bash us centre-right liberals.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

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Quote from: The Iceman on March 16, 2012, 01:24:55 PM
There is nothing everything wrong with including God in anything the GAA does.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.