Gay marriage

[Maguire01]

It would cripple us Maguire, like i said. Coverage out of pocket is $2000 per month roughly and medical bills can run into the 100's of thousands.
Not saying we have that kind of money but if push came to shove I could figure something out.

Being able to afford something and being forced to sell everything you own to buy something are two different things.
But keep twisting words......

Ah, you can see my posts. That's good.

Let me get that dummy tit off the floor for you there.
I scrolled back four pages to see the post about the cats you were pouting over - different conversation, different thread.

Dummy?

As for the 'cats' - different thread maybe, but as you're basing your whole argument here on your need to be true to your religious beliefs... well I just don't understand how your cat killing actions reconcile with this. It appears to be picking and choosing the bits of religion that suit your argument.

Although it wasn't just that post I was referring two - you avoided another few as well.

[Mike Sheehy]

This thread is great.
Iceman, the Christian who poisons cats, would choose his faith over his family and I can't wait to hear his answer to Nifan's question.
Fitzroyalty seems to think no one but fathers like sport.
EC, the person who describes himself as "mildly racist", has a picture of a black player who was recently the victim of racist abuse as his avatar.

The biggest surprise of all though, mike sheehy made the best point in the thread:

Given all thats gone on in the last few years we should probably be questioning the parenting abilities of the uber-"christians" instead of gay people. It was the traditionally married flock,and not gays, that turned a blind eye while the Magdelen beasts and fiddling priests had their wicked way. Some  "suitable" environment that created for children   

Then again, I suppose that is what god intended.

No surprise. In the moral vacuum of this board even the basic idealist can be king.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

If I was faced between choosing between my faith and my family - hand on heart I'd have to choose my faith.

Well this is the best argument for many Homosexuals being better parents than quite a few Christians/Religious I have heard in a long time.

[The Iceman]

If I was faced between choosing between my faith and my family - hand on heart I'd have to choose my faith.

Well this is the best argument for many Homosexuals being better parents than quite a few Christians/Religious I have heard in a long time.

Do you have any convictions? Like the example I thought some might relate to in a previous post of taking up a gun to defend your country. That's choosing something else over your family? You have made no secret of your political views, would you fight for your country and walk away from your family?

[seafoid]

This thread is great.
Iceman, the Christian who poisons cats, would choose his faith over his family and I can't wait to hear his answer to Nifan's question.
Fitzroyalty seems to think no one but fathers like sport.
EC, the person who describes himself as "mildly racist", has a picture of a black player who was recently the victim of racist abuse as his avatar.

The biggest surprise of all though, mike sheehy made the best point in the thread:

Given all thats gone on in the last few years we should probably be questioning the parenting abilities of the uber-"christians" instead of gay people. It was the traditionally married flock,and not gays, that turned a blind eye while the Magdelen beasts and fiddling priests had their wicked way. Some  "suitable" environment that created for children   

Then again, I suppose that is what god intended.

No surprise. In the moral vacuum of this board even the basic idealist can be king.

That is low even by your standards. 

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

If I was faced between choosing between my faith and my family - hand on heart I'd have to choose my faith.

Well this is the best argument for many Homosexuals being better parents than quite a few Christians/Religious I have heard in a long time.

Do you have any convictions? Like the example I thought some might relate to in a previous post of taking up a gun to defend your country. That's choosing something else over your family? You have made no secret of your political views, would you fight for your country and walk away from your family?

Are you Lot reborn Iceman?

[The Iceman]

Thats answering a question with a question.

[Eamonnca1]

Thats answering a question with a question.

What is?

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Thats answering a question with a question.

What is?

I think it was my post about Lot. The man who thought it was God's will to let his daughters be gang raped rather than let the boys of Sodom and Gomorrah have a go on one another. Lot had such convictions that it was better to have his daughters raped than God be insulted by some man-on-man action.

If I was faced between choosing between my faith and my family - hand on heart I'd have to choose my faith.

Well this is the best argument for many Homosexuals being better parents than quite a few Christians/Religious I have heard in a long time.

Do you have any convictions? Like the example I thought some might relate to in a previous post of taking up a gun to defend your country. That's choosing something else over your family? You have made no secret of your political views, would you fight for your country and walk away from your family?

Are you Lot reborn Iceman?

Religion, No Thankyou.

[Tubberman]

Puck, If I unsubscribe from our current health plan in work and seek my own through something like Cobra we're talking a couple of thousand dollars a month. Already with subsidized healthcare through my job, my contributions are close to $600 per month. We are a single income family with two kids and one more on the way.

If I was faced between choosing between my faith and my family - hand on heart I'd have to choose my faith. My family wouldn't have me otherwise.
That may seem like a ridiculous statement but I really would and my family would support my decision.

But convictions sent men we all know to war. Many Irish men and women who picked up a gun in defense of their country, or who starved themselves to death in a prison cell, did so based on convictions. They choose what they held sacred over their families.

Well that is just bizarre and a bit disturbing. Not meaning to be insulting, but that sounds like something you hear about those cults and you just say to yourself "they're all stone mad sure". Scarier when it's someone who is obviously not insane.

[The Iceman]

So Tubberman, seeing as MOG wouldn't answer the question, perhaps you would entertain it:
Do you have any convictions? Like the example I thought some might relate to in a previous post of taking up a gun to defend your country. That's choosing something else over your family? You have made no secret of your political views, would you fight for your country and walk away from your family?

[Blowitupref]

War is very real some fight in it to give there children a better life. As the saying goes If one person has an imaginary friend, they're crazy, if many people have The same imaginary friend it's religion.

[The Iceman]

Regardless if you believe in God or not, convictions are real and many people will choose things over their family.

[nifan]

Regardless if you believe in God or not, convictions are real and many people will choose things over their family.

My family are my first priority, and i dont even have kids of my own yet.

[heganboy]

Some other views on the topic...