More Thuggery on the GAA field

[tyroneStatto]

I only see 5 people mentioned there clarshack, and it seems like they all got 4 weeks each following the hearing (Apart from #11). Am I picking this up right? Were there 3 other suspensions that were not appealed?

i think only 1 of the subs appealed.

[ballymac]

The club prevented from playing in the all ireland club championship for the next 5 yrs. On top of everything else is this not a bit excessive?
I agree that the proper sanctions are put in place and Derrytresk are being made an example of but this seems a bit much. The GAA would need to make sure that they remain consistent in this as there have been plenty of cases throughout the country that have been worse and were not dealt with properly. And that is probably the problem. Someone blamed the Tyrone board as they did not deal with the Carrickmore/ Dromore properly, and they might be partly right, as the GAA as a whole have not dealt with mass brawls properly over the years.
Clubs need to take reponsibility as do players as they have to bemore disciplined than ever through their training, diet lifestyle etc so they should take this on to the pitch.
The game has moved on from 15yrs ago even at club level, youth level and at all grades.No one wants to see the passion taken out of the game but luckily the no 9 for Dromid was a big guy and survived the dirty dig from a sub entering the field of play, not everyone is going to be so lucky.

[Onlooker]

Is there not an element of window dressing in preventing Derrytresk from playing in the Ulster or All Ireland Club Championship for 5 years.  After winning the Tyrone Junior Championship in 2011, I presume that they will now be playing at Intermediate level and that it is unlikely if they will be strong contenders for county titles at that level.  It is not like we are talking about  suspensions for consistently top clubs like Dr. Crokes or Crossmaglen.  BTW, I expect Derrytresk to win the All Ireland title at the weekend and Crossmaglen to be too good for Dr. Crokes.

[Hound]

The club prevented from playing in the all ireland club championship for the next 5 yrs. On top of everything else is this not a bit excessive?

But its probably no ban at all given they are now presumably promoted to intermediate having won the Tyrone Junior championship. I'm sure it happens that teams win Inter championships within a few years of a Junior championship, but it'd be rare enough.

[jeepers]

Is there not an element of window dressing in preventing Derrytresk from playing in the Ulster of All Ireland Club Championship for 5 years.  After winning the Tyrone Junior Championship in 2011, I presume that they will now be playing at Intermediate level and that it is unlikely if they will be strong contenders for county titles at that level. 

Agree completely, very few clubs jump up levels and suceed straight away, Ardfert did it a few years ago and won back to back All Irelands at junior and intermediate but they were a one off. That suspension was for show I feel, Derrytresk should still win the weekend

[ballymac]

Agreed that Derrytresk are now in the Intermediate division and would not be favourite to win this championship.The fact that Derrytresk have been banned for 5 years opens a can of worms. If there is a similar incident in a club championship will the team involved get 5 years ban from that competition. Or will different rules be applied. This is where the powers that be need to make a clear and precise statement.
Imagine the scene your club get to the semi final of their relevant championship at county level, and are playing their nearest rivals and there is a big of 'handbags' and subs enter the field of play and a melee occurs, will you accept that your club will now be put out of your county championship for the next 5 yrs.

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

People seem to have quite an impressive knowledge of the standard of Galway Junior football.

[tyroneStatto]

The club prevented from playing in the all ireland club championship for the next 5 yrs. On top of everything else is this not a bit excessive?

But its probably no ban at all given they are now presumably promoted to intermediate having won the Tyrone Junior championship. I'm sure it happens that teams win Inter championships within a few years of a Junior championship, but it'd be rare enough.

stewartstown (2004 & 2006) and killyman (2005 & 2007) both won tyrone intermediate championships 2 years after winning junior. however it was easier to do it then compared to now, as half of the clubs in tyrone played in the senior championship at the time. the championship structures were then changed for the 2008 season.

intermediate in tyrone is very strong this year and when you have teams like cookstown, moy and galbally - imo i dont think derrytresk will be going for the ifc. in fact they'll probably be happy enough just to retain intermediate status which would be another fine achievement considering the quality of teams in the division.

a 5 year ban at provincial and national level would really only hurt the crossmaglens and the nemo rangers of this world.

[LeoMc]

I dont see why the full back was suspended in the first place? The number 11 did very well to get off

Did he not get a booking at the time? If so it would have been considered dealt with by the Referee and no further action was appropriate.

[tyroneStatto]

People seem to have quite an impressive knowledge of the standard of Galway Junior football.

clonbur are relying heavily on 2 men up front - pat lambe and eoin joyce (son of stephen).

pat lambe is 35 now and plays at chf.

if cathal o'neill can take care of declan o'sullivan i think he might be able to handle pat lambe ok as well.

[GalwayBayBoy]

People seem to have quite an impressive knowledge of the standard of Galway Junior football.

They have no chance apparently.

That said they did beat the Leinster champions in the other semi by 10 points who were on a 12+ match unbeaten run.

[AZOffaly]

The club prevented from playing in the all ireland club championship for the next 5 yrs. On top of everything else is this not a bit excessive?

But its probably no ban at all given they are now presumably promoted to intermediate having won the Tyrone Junior championship. I'm sure it happens that teams win Inter championships within a few years of a Junior championship, but it'd be rare enough.

stewartstown (2004 & 2006) and killyman (2005 & 2007) both won tyrone intermediate championships 2 years after winning junior. however it was easier to do it then compared to now, as half of the clubs in tyrone played in the senior championship at the time. the championship structures were then changed for the 2008 season.

intermediate in tyrone is very strong this year and when you have teams like cookstown, moy and galbally - imo i dont think derrytresk will be going for the ifc. in fact they'll probably be happy enough just to retain intermediate status which would be another fine achievement considering the quality of teams in the division.

a 5 year ban at provincial and national level would really only hurt the crossmaglens and the nemo rangers of this world.

Well, unless they do get relegated next year, they'd be eligible to play in Junior again in 2013 wouldn't they?

[tyroneStatto]

The club prevented from playing in the all ireland club championship for the next 5 yrs. On top of everything else is this not a bit excessive?

But its probably no ban at all given they are now presumably promoted to intermediate having won the Tyrone Junior championship. I'm sure it happens that teams win Inter championships within a few years of a Junior championship, but it'd be rare enough.

stewartstown (2004 & 2006) and killyman (2005 & 2007) both won tyrone intermediate championships 2 years after winning junior. however it was easier to do it then compared to now, as half of the clubs in tyrone played in the senior championship at the time. the championship structures were then changed for the 2008 season.

intermediate in tyrone is very strong this year and when you have teams like cookstown, moy and galbally - imo i dont think derrytresk will be going for the ifc. in fact they'll probably be happy enough just to retain intermediate status which would be another fine achievement considering the quality of teams in the division.

a 5 year ban at provincial and national level would really only hurt the crossmaglens and the nemo rangers of this world.

Well, unless they do get relegated next year, they'd be eligible to play in Junior again in 2013 wouldn't they?

if that happened, there's no guarantee that they would win the jfc either. the red hot favourites in the last 3 tyrone junior finals
have all lost.

[AZOffaly]

Ah yeah, i understand that, but I'm just saying that it's not necessarily the blunt punishment some people are saying. They don't necessarily have to win Intermediate to be competing in Ulster in 2013/2014/2015,

[Jinxy]

People seem to have quite an impressive knowledge of the standard of Galway Junior football.

clonbur are relying heavily on 2 men up front - pat lambe and eoin joyce (son of stephen).

pat lambe is 35 now and plays at chf.

if cathal o'neill can take care of declan o'sullivan i think he might be able to handle pat lambe ok as well.

Do you mean 'take care of' in the Tony Soprano sense?