More Thuggery on the GAA field

Started by agorm, January 23, 2012, 06:25:39 PM

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Jinxy

Quote from: tyssam5 on January 25, 2012, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 11:33:30 AM
I've read plenty of opinions from people that were at the game.
The journalist Michael Clifford was there with his kids.
You only want to hear the opinions that say 'There were two teams in it'.
Does anyone honestly think that if Dromid were playing a team from Dublin, Meath, Cork, Galway or wherever that this game would have had such a nasty undertone?
p.s. Tyrone men have form for grabbing balls!

No I don't want to just hear 'there were two teams at it' but I would like to hear the national media quoting Tyrone as well as Kerry sources. And by sources I mean people who are prepared to say what they saw first hand. Not secondary or tertiary sources.

So on the subject how do you know the game had 'a nasty undertone' were you there?

From the countless eyewitness reports.
Are you saying there wasn't a nasty undertone?!
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Nally Stand

Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 11:20:26 AM
What's all this about people who weren't at the game not being entitled to an opinion? Did I not watch a video....

Yes, you did watch a video. A small edited down section of a bigger video. Commissioned and released by Dromid Pearses.

You'd think with the sheer amount of "testicle tugging" which we are told went on, that there would be some footage of that released too. I'm sure it genuinely happened though because the Dromid Pearses manager said so.
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

tyssam5

Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 11:50:55 AM
Quote from: tyssam5 on January 25, 2012, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 11:33:30 AM
I've read plenty of opinions from people that were at the game.
The journalist Michael Clifford was there with his kids.
You only want to hear the opinions that say 'There were two teams in it'.
Does anyone honestly think that if Dromid were playing a team from Dublin, Meath, Cork, Galway or wherever that this game would have had such a nasty undertone?
p.s. Tyrone men have form for grabbing balls!

No I don't want to just hear 'there were two teams at it' but I would like to hear the national media quoting Tyrone as well as Kerry sources. And by sources I mean people who are prepared to say what they saw first hand. Not secondary or tertiary sources.

So on the subject how do you know the game had 'a nasty undertone' were you there?

From the countless eyewitness reports.
Are you saying there wasn't a nasty undertone?!

Source of 'countless' reports? I'd settle for 10.
Only undertones I know are the ones used to play with Fergal Sharkey. Never saw them play a football game.

AZOffaly

Quote from: Nally Stand on January 25, 2012, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 11:20:26 AM
What's all this about people who weren't at the game not being entitled to an opinion? Did I not watch a video....

Yes, you did watch a video. A small edited down section of a bigger video. Commissioned and released by Dromid Pearses.

You'd think with the sheer amount of "testicle tugging" which we are told went on, that there would be some footage of that released too. I'm sure it genuinely happened though because the Dromid Pearses manager said so.

What editing do you think was done Nally? It seems to be just a clip of the row, not an edited version. I don't see any breaks or time lags.

I would like to see the full match though, and hopefully I'll get a chance soon.

AZOffaly

Quote from: tyssam5 on January 25, 2012, 11:55:11 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 11:50:55 AM
Quote from: tyssam5 on January 25, 2012, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 11:33:30 AM
I've read plenty of opinions from people that were at the game.
The journalist Michael Clifford was there with his kids.
You only want to hear the opinions that say 'There were two teams in it'.
Does anyone honestly think that if Dromid were playing a team from Dublin, Meath, Cork, Galway or wherever that this game would have had such a nasty undertone?
p.s. Tyrone men have form for grabbing balls!

No I don't want to just hear 'there were two teams at it' but I would like to hear the national media quoting Tyrone as well as Kerry sources. And by sources I mean people who are prepared to say what they saw first hand. Not secondary or tertiary sources.

So on the subject how do you know the game had 'a nasty undertone' were you there?

From the countless eyewitness reports.
Are you saying there wasn't a nasty undertone?!

Source of 'countless' reports? I'd settle for 10.
Only undertones I know are the ones used to play with Fergal Sharkey. Never saw them play a football game.
Are they the lads that did 'Teenage Kicks'? Hmmm.

tyssam5

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 25, 2012, 11:57:03 AM
Quote from: tyssam5 on January 25, 2012, 11:55:11 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 11:50:55 AM
Quote from: tyssam5 on January 25, 2012, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 11:33:30 AM
I've read plenty of opinions from people that were at the game.
The journalist Michael Clifford was there with his kids.
You only want to hear the opinions that say 'There were two teams in it'.
Does anyone honestly think that if Dromid were playing a team from Dublin, Meath, Cork, Galway or wherever that this game would have had such a nasty undertone?
p.s. Tyrone men have form for grabbing balls!

No I don't want to just hear 'there were two teams at it' but I would like to hear the national media quoting Tyrone as well as Kerry sources. And by sources I mean people who are prepared to say what they saw first hand. Not secondary or tertiary sources.

So on the subject how do you know the game had 'a nasty undertone' were you there?

From the countless eyewitness reports.
Are you saying there wasn't a nasty undertone?!

Source of 'countless' reports? I'd settle for 10.
Only undertones I know are the ones used to play with Fergal Sharkey. Never saw them play a football game.
Are they the lads that did 'Teenage Kicks'? Hmmm.


Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oskM5XD_Yc4

tyssam5


cornafean

Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 11:33:30 AM
I've read plenty of opinions from people that were at the game.
The journalist Michael Clifford was there with his kids.
You only want to hear the opinions that say 'There were two teams in it'.
Does anyone honestly think that if Dromid were playing a team from Dublin, Meath, Cork, Galway or wherever that this game would have had such a nasty undertone?
p.s. Tyrone men have form for grabbing balls!

I didn't know Michael Clifford was from Tyrone?
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AZOffaly

In Portlaoise town with no guards in sight
I see my chance in a handbags fight

A Dromid man lying on the ground,
With other subs gathered round

I wanna run, run into the fight
And Give teenage kicks right through the night

tyssam5

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 25, 2012, 12:04:14 PM
In Portlaoise town with no guards in sight
I see my chance in a handbags fight

A Dromid man lying on the ground,
With other subs gathered round

I wanna run, run into the fight
And Give teenage kicks right through the night

Good effort but more Tom Pettyish

donelli

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 25, 2012, 12:04:14 PM
In Portlaoise town with no guards in sight
I see my chance in a handbags fight

A Dromid man lying on the ground,
With other subs gathered round

I wanna run, run into the fight
And Give teenage kicks right through the night

;D

Applesisapples

If anybody watched the Munster match on Saturday there was an incident similar to this in that it involved a number of players. the only difference here was the incursion on to the pitch of subs and the involvement of fans and mentors. To be honest it adds to the excitement if there is a bit of a handbag fight at a match. However there appears to be developing a propensity for subs and fans to get involved. It is this that I would like to see being dealt with by the CCC. At the Munster match no fans got involved, no mentors and no subs, the ref let the palyers sort it out. What concerns me here as well is the rush to blame this on the Nordies. As I reminded people earlier it wasn't Nordies that attacked Martin Sludden. If the GAA can't get a grip on subs and fans then we will see repeats of the Ray Mathews incident were Referees are then targeted, so big bans required here and in other games too.

Jinxy

Quote from: Applesisapples on January 25, 2012, 12:42:13 PM
If anybody watched the Munster match on Saturday there was an incident similar to this in that it involved a number of players. the only difference here was the incursion on to the pitch of subs and the involvement of fans and mentors. To be honest it adds to the excitement if there is a bit of a handbag fight at a match. However there appears to be developing a propensity for subs and fans to get involved. It is this that I would like to see being dealt with by the CCC. At the Munster match no fans got involved, no mentors and no subs, the ref let the palyers sort it out. What concerns me here as well is the rush to blame this on the Nordies. As I reminded people earlier it wasn't Nordies that attacked Martin Sludden. If the GAA can't get a grip on subs and fans then we will see repeats of the Ray Mathews incident were Referees are then targeted, so big bans required here and in other games too.

Louth people are de facto nordies.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Applesisapples

Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2012, 12:51:23 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 25, 2012, 12:42:13 PM
If anybody watched the Munster match on Saturday there was an incident similar to this in that it involved a number of players. the only difference here was the incursion on to the pitch of subs and the involvement of fans and mentors. To be honest it adds to the excitement if there is a bit of a handbag fight at a match. However there appears to be developing a propensity for subs and fans to get involved. It is this that I would like to see being dealt with by the CCC. At the Munster match no fans got involved, no mentors and no subs, the ref let the palyers sort it out. What concerns me here as well is the rush to blame this on the Nordies. As I reminded people earlier it wasn't Nordies that attacked Martin Sludden. If the GAA can't get a grip on subs and fans then we will see repeats of the Ray Mathews incident were Referees are then targeted, so big bans required here and in other games too.
Bollocks they are not even Ulstermen.
Louth people are de facto nordies.

Keane

I would have thought the dearth of rebuttals in the mass media from journalists of any kind was more an indictment of the Derrytresk position than something to be hidden behind as some sort of reverso defence.

I think we can assume there were as many journalists at the game from Tyrone as there was from Kerry, it's quite telling that none of them are launching spirited defences of the wrongly beset Derrytresk position.

In any case, it's a fairly lol suggestion that having two (presumably) equally and oppositely biased opinions on the incident will tell us anything other than that people see what they want to see.