Antrim Football Thread

[BigGreenField]

Solo and go has been good, as has handing the ball back.

Midfield throw up, probably has reduced fouls. Kick out rules has exposed a few teams and will boost Cargin for championship given aerial ability. Be good to see how many fouls arise of the back of the midfield scrum after a kick out.

Dissent for ref decisions is well down, dissent for frees not given remains high (and ref's largely ignoring it as play moves on).

No pass back to keeper has largely been good but teams don't really hunt defenders  enough, a mindset issue.

3 v3 has increased the pace of games however difficult for ref's. With the challenge to get ref's might be an option for a stand-alone lad who doesn't want to be a ref  to be paid a tenner to just be on the halfway linr and call the 3 v 3 (not ideal but what can we do, maybe even 18 yr old young whistlers for that type of call).  They can bring their own umpires chair.

[Milltown Row2]

A young whistler would be tortured and not experienced enough to deal with the type of managers that are well able to manipulate a inexperienced lad/lass... No mics either so again impossible in the heat of the game to get it right

I still don't get the benefits of the midfield thing, I can't remember blowing for too many frees at the throw in

[Gaels1789]

3v3 rule is hard to manage but all the other rules have made a positive difference in the game I'd say. MR2 - have you noticed less back chat in the games you have taken? In the 4/5 games I've seen this year there has been close to none.
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3 games in the league and twice I've moved the ball from players, 2 times from coaches/managers/supporters  



What has a supporter got to do with the game surely that's a joke...

[Gaels1789]

3v3 rule is hard to manage but all the other rules have made a positive difference in the game I'd say. MR2 - have you noticed less back chat in the games you have taken? In the 4/5 games I've seen this year there has been close to none.
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3 games in the league and twice I've moved the ball from players, 2 times from coaches/managers/supporters  



What has a supporter got to do with the game, should have 0 influencers on a ref's decisions.

surely that's a joke...

[Milltown Row2]

I put in a wee smiley face, so that no one would take it too seriously 

[SaffronSports]

See if your reffing the game and a player behind you calls you something but you couldn't say for sure who said it, do you let it roll? I'm just going with the story where someone put on an accent to earn a free in a challenge match.

Think lgfa need to go down the same route regarding dissent. At an u16 game last night and the discipline was poor.

[Milltown Row2]

See if your reffing the game and a player behind you calls you something but you couldn't say for sure who said it, do you let it roll? I'm just going with the story where someone put on an accent to earn a free in a challenge match.

Think lgfa need to go down the same route regarding dissent. At an u16 game last night and the discipline was poor.

I think the hurling should look at the dissent thing also, but it is less so tbf. Hurlers are less whiny than the footballers who gurn a bit too much

[SaffronOak]

I dont agree with handing the ball to hand after a foul.  Dropping the ball to feet would probably have been enough.

The rest I think have added massively to the entertainment side of the game.  It's become a nightmare for coaches who have lost a sense of control but the chaos of it all is super.

[Hectic]

Have to say the amount of mouthing off from the sideline seems reduced in the games I have watched so far.

Maybe when we get to higher stakes games there could be more but the awarding of a close in free will soon dampen that too.

And juvenile games will be interesting as I have seen some pretty extreme cases there for management trying to referee games from start to finish. 

And that the very environment where good example should be set.

[SaffronSports]

Have to say the amount of mouthing off from the sideline seems reduced in the games I have watched so far.

Maybe when we get to higher stakes games there could be more but the awarding of a close in free will soon dampen that too.

And juvenile games will be interesting as I have seen some pretty extreme cases there for management trying to referee games from start to finish. 

And that the very environment where good example should be set.

In fairness at the match last night, one of the managers gave his own player a severe bollocking as she just wouldn't stop with the dissent.

[Hectic]

I suppose if it is being policed first and foremost it shouldn't be long before it becomes self policing as you explain.

Big stick from the referees for a few months and then hopefully mostly looks after itself. 

So on that basis the bigger the stick the quicker we get there.

[NatSoSaff]

Have to say the amount of mouthing off from the sideline seems reduced in the games I have watched so far.

Maybe when we get to higher stakes games there could be more but the awarding of a close in free will soon dampen that too.

And juvenile games will be interesting as I have seen some pretty extreme cases there for management trying to referee games from start to finish. 

And that the very environment where good example should be set.

In fairness at the match last night, one of the managers gave his own player a severe bollocking as she just wouldn't stop with the dissent.

Women eh, 

[SaffronSports]

Have to say the amount of mouthing off from the sideline seems reduced in the games I have watched so far.

Maybe when we get to higher stakes games there could be more but the awarding of a close in free will soon dampen that too.

And juvenile games will be interesting as I have seen some pretty extreme cases there for management trying to referee games from start to finish. 

And that the very environment where good example should be set.

In fairness at the match last night, one of the managers gave his own player a severe bollocking as she just wouldn't stop with the dissent.

Women eh, 

What's your point?

In my opinion, the dissent rule is a very good one. I've never seen a referee change their mind and all I ever hear is how difficult it is to get referees so lets help them out some. As MR2 says, do it in hurling too. Add in ladies football and camogie too. I have seen referees advance a free for dissent although not 100% the exact ruling on that.

I also asked about being sure who it was said something as when you're in the middle of the pitch it's hard to know exactly who said what. One example from last year was at the Feile in Louth one of the parents shouted something but it had the F word in it, I think it was to his own daughter and the next thing the ref was threatening to remove me and another coach from the side line. We were literally sorting out who we were bringing on for the subs that you make at feile and I didn't even hear the person cursing so I was completely confused by it all. 

[AllStar15]

I dont agree with handing the ball to hand after a foul.  Dropping the ball to feet would probably have been enough.

The rest I think have added massively to the entertainment side of the game.  It's become a nightmare for coaches who have lost a sense of control but the chaos of it all is super.

I would've agreed with you before being to a few matches but it actually stops that flashpoint of a man holding on to the ball too long and another man or two trying to wrestle it off him. I'm surprised how quickly all the players have accepted it and just quickly hand the ball back. After another month or two of games it'll just be common practice and the rule will rarely be needed.

[JimStynes]

Seems to be plenty of tickets floating for Saturday