Antrim Football Thread

[gallsman]

BS I was in the middle of pg1 crowd. I'd have liked you to win but that decision was clearly made and that goal was never standing and very few round me said much about it bar one person who said the replay on twitter showed it wasn't out. That's irrelevant as the umpire said it was wide anyway.

You could see before the ball went in the net that was happening.

Which, of course, it categorically doesn't.

[Take the Mark]

BS I was in the middle of pg1 crowd. I'd have liked you to win but that decision was clearly made and that goal was never standing and very few round me said much about it bar one person who said the replay  on twitter showed it wasn't out. That's irrelevant as the umpire said it was wide anyway.

You could see before the ball went in the net that was happening.

Which, of course, it categorically doesn't.

 

[Take the Mark]

KP didn't have his best game,he tried to let it go,probably too much at times,decisions both teams could scratch their heads about

Fair assessment. Didnt cost either team the game.

[imtommygunn]

Yeah I would share that opinion too.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Whether the ball was out or not is up for debate.  Thats up to the ref or umpire to make their call. maybe it was in, maybe not, difficult to see from my angle or on the Stream but a close call either way.  Certainly not clear.

Whats not up for debate is that the referee clearly blew his whistle early and the players stopped. kicking a ball into an unguarded net to me is not controversial.  Wasn't even a topic of discussion at the game.

Is there a brief required to be given to umpires other than perhaps jersey pulling? Sounds like a simple enough job with a bit of focus required for giving 45s and Square Balls 

An umpire can't give a square ball. That's the ref's job.
Though sometimes you hear that the ref "may consult" the umpires. I'm not convinced that's a thing though as you don't hear it about other technical fouls.
Maybe Milltown can confirm.

[SaffronOak]

Whether the ball was out or not is up for debate.  Thats up to the ref or umpire to make their call. maybe it was in, maybe not, difficult to see from my angle or on the Stream but a close call either way.  Certainly not clear.

Whats not up for debate is that the referee clearly blew his whistle early and the players stopped. kicking a ball into an unguarded net to me is not controversial.  Wasn't even a topic of discussion at the game.

Is there a brief required to be given to umpires other than perhaps jersey pulling? Sounds like a simple enough job with a bit of focus required for giving 45s and Square Balls 

An umpire can't give a square ball. That's the ref's job.
Though sometimes you hear that the ref "may consult" the umpires. I'm not convinced that's a thing though as you don't hear it about other technical fouls.
Maybe Milltown can confirm.

correct.  umpires cant give a square ball but if they feel it is, they could alert the ref in some way.  I've umpired and the ref has said that in that kind of situation, scratch your head until I come over lol

[NAG1]

Umpire can't give a square ball in open play, once the game has stopped he can consult the ref to let them know it was a square ball.

[SaffronOak]

Correct, but like I said.  It was a discreet signal and the ref would speak with me.  I should have added that he wouldnt stop play just off the back of me scratching my head lol.  But the ball would be dead from a square ball goal anyway

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Umpire can't give a square ball in open play, once the game has stopped he can consult the ref to let them know it was a square ball.

Really? After how many phases of play is he to forget about it?
A square ball is a referee's decision in the same way that overcarrying is.

High ball in. Umpire thinks it's a square ball, ref doesn't flinch. Ball breaks out and attacking team gather it. Recycle. Play it across the pitch and back before working and scoring a goal.

Umpire steps out and says it was a square ball a minute and a half ago.
I think not.

[Saffrongael]

Lads just to clarify this would only be the case if he has his own umpires with him  Not the home and away umpires cheating like fcuk

[Milltown Row2]

Lads just to clarify this would only be the case if he has his own umpires with him  Not the home and away umpires cheating like fcuk

And no one listens to home or away umpires when it comes down to a decision like that, it's important to try and be in a better position to call it yourself.

My problem with the square ball is for an umpire, is he watching when the ball was kicked and players placement in/out of square? Other than he's standing on the umpires foot he'll find it just as difficult to call.

The best a ref should do is blow his whistle on such calls, have a word with umpires or a linesman and make a decision. Either it's a goal or square ball.

Linesmen have no other function than to call the line and notify the ref for an off the ball incident. The incessant call from morons either on the sideline or behind the fence to tell the ref that he should tell the ref or wave your flag are watching way too much soccer, and not even slightly embarrassed when explained that you can't stop live play..

Linesmen and umpires can consult with the ref but ultimately it's his call only.

[InnocentByStander]

Curly McIlwaine puts the "was it out" debate to bed.

[Spike]

Yes, no doubt we'll see lots of contributers taking back their comments 

[EOC1923]

Firstly, congratulations to Cargin, great club, you know how to grind em out. Good luck in Ulster, all Antrim will be behind you.

Casements didn't fear Cargin before the game and round the club we feel like it's one we lost, rather than Cargin won.

The video is going around that shows we had a good goal disallowed, and we thought when Dermot was black carded, Mick got away with an exact same foul a few minutes later. Those things hot hard when refereeing gets it wrong or is perceived to not be consistent.

And we thought  Enda Lynn should have got a free in to level it in extra time.

Those who wish to comment please do so, just take the time to review the evidence beforehand.

Portglenone will suck it up, and will come back for more. Now that we know we can go toe to toe with Cargin for an hour, our challenge is to go find that extra couple of per cent.

Good luck Cargin, but don't go looking down your noses at us no more! We arnt far away...and youse know it.

Fair dues Bannside your men done  themselves proud today and took it to us but you are absolutely taking the piss claiming hard done by decision wise. 7-5 down in normal time, two scandalous decisions awarding frees. The commentators on the stream were in disbelief. Cargin on one of their worst days still came through against Portglenone who are away home thinking they played well
That's the reality.

Firstly, congratulations to Cargin, great club, you know how to grind em out. Good luck in Ulster, all Antrim will be behind you.

Casements didn't fear Cargin before the game and round the club we feel like it's one we lost, rather than Cargin won.

The video is going around that shows we had a good goal disallowed, and we thought when Dermot was black carded, Mick got away with an exact same foul a few minutes later. Those things hot hard when refereeing gets it wrong or is perceived to not be consistent.

And we thought  Enda Lynn should have got a free in to level it in extra time.

Those who wish to comment please do so, just take the time to review the evidence beforehand.

Portglenone will suck it up, and will come back for more. Now that we know we can go toe to toe with Cargin for an hour, our challenge is to go find that extra couple of per cent.

Good luck Cargin, but don't go looking down your noses at us no more! We arnt far away...and youse know it.

Fair dues Bannside your men done  themselves proud today and took it to us but you are absolutely taking the piss claiming hard done by decision wise. 7-5 down in normal time, two scandalous decisions awarding frees. The commentators on the stream were in disbelief. Cargin on one of their worst days still came through against Portglenone who are away home thinking they played well
That's the reality.

More typical condescending EOC. You were in a battle today and you know it. Goal disallowed that video evidence going round shows it was a scandalous decision.

You know we are bang up there with you, stop talking shite.

Talking shite anyone ?

[paddyjohn]

Only one thing worse than a bad loser...