A "shared future" ? Sinn Fein Lord mayor refuses to present award to Army cadet

[Main Street]

Typical Nordie mass hysteria over a non issue. The place must be plagued with cretins.


City Hall mayor was quoted as saying

He said it was "nothing personal".

"At the last minute I was informed that one of the awards was to be presented to a representative of the Army cadet force," Mr O Donnghaile added.
"In order to avoid any unnecessary sensitivities to either party, it was arranged for the outgoing chairman of the organisation to present some of the certificates alongside me"

[Tony Baloney]

Typical Nordie mass hysteria over a non issue. The place must be plagued with cretins.


City Hall mayor was quoted as saying

He said it was "nothing personal".

"At the last minute I was informed that one of the awards was to be presented to a representative of the Army cadet force," Mr O Donnghaile added.
"In order to avoid any unnecessary sensitivities to either party, it was arranged for the outgoing chairman of the organisation to present some of the certificates alongside me"

The Lord Mayor is indeed a cretin.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

A tempest in a thimble, with the usual gullible numpties getting all hot and bothered about it. 

[Muzz]

The question I'd ask...

For those that voted Sinn Fein in last election...is this what you voted for? i.e. Is this representative of your view and you fully back him for what he's done?

He's certainly doing his piece for standing up to the crown and showing them that a united Ireland is just around the corner.

I am a Sinn Fein supporter in that I feel they are the only nationalist party that have substance. We don't vote people in here based on their manifesto but when I vote I expect that person to do the just and right thing. Maybe it's too much to ask but this plonker has taken it a step too far.  It's okay to hand over certificates to everyone that isn't a cadet.  What a gype!

[Tonto]

a member of an army that has terrorised this place for years. 

A 14 year old girl? Don't think she has done much in the way of terrorising. He was it seems doing a good job untill this. He was wrong, no excuses.

She is a  still a member of the British Army who are responsible for terrorising this country and whose country continue to occupy it. Why should he be giving an award to the army that a lot of his colleagues fought against?

Ok, if she's just like all British soldiers, I wonder if you could answer the following simple question:  back in the day, do you think that a 14-year-old female who was an army cadet would have been a "legitimate" target?  I mean, could Irish republicans have convinced themselves that booby-trapping her school bus was OK in the name of Irish freedom?

Simple yes or no.  Thank-you.

[Tony Baloney]

The Duke of Edinburgh is no doubt the head of many of the British and Commonwealth armed forces and is married to the boss lady so if this clown was seriously standing by any principles he shouldn't have been handing out any certificates.

We've seen with the DUP over the last few weeks that the main two parties are sometimes at pains (painfully so!) to show the hardliners that they aren't up each others holes.

[Eamonnca1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghaawbn-1TM

Amazing these people on here who are supporting a 14 year old in her right to murder a 12 year old walking to chapel in her own townland in our Country and think the 14 year old should be presented with a reward in her training to do the same.

Shame on youse.
Total and utter shame.


The Majella O'Hare killing aroused considerable concern at the time because of clear ambiguities in the account of the British army as to why shots had been fired. SDLP MLA Dominic Bradley said the HET report contradicts the Army's story.

"The soldier and the Parachute Regiment maintained there was a gunman present in the area on that day and that he had fired shots at them and that the soldier had returned fire.

"But as the HET report clearly shows that was not the case," Mr Bradley said.

"So the truth of Majella's death needs to be acknowledged by the British  government."

A soldier, Private Michael Williams, was charged with manslaughter after an RUC investigation, but was acquitted in court.

Two weeks ago, the HET said it had sent a letter to Majella's mother, regarding its findings and that the final copy of its report would be sent to her in "four to six weeks".

An HET spokesman added: "The original RUC investigation found that Private Michael Williams was not returning fire at a gunman as he claimed and they recommended to prosecutors that he be charged with manslaughter.

The HET supports the findings of the original investigation. They also say the RUC investigation was thorough and good.

The killing of Majella also caused outrage and concern outside Ireland. On the Isle of Man her death led directly to the establishment of the `Anti-Militarist-Alliance' (members of Mec Vannin and the Manx branch of the Celtic League). The AMA subsequently campaigned against the use of the Isle of Man for training purposes by the British Army and the base at Jurby providing rest and recuperation for troops from Ireland. Training exercises eventually ended and the base closed.

It is hoped that after waiting over thirty years the family of Majella O'Hare will get both justice and closure.

Those on this Board who have made comments on this thread in derogation of what would be right are cheap weasel mouthed baggage carrying sneaking regarder scum whilst they may not be the murderers of Majella their minds appear to support the british in their anti Irish ways. Scum.

So this 14-year-old girl, who would have been born in 1995, managed to kill Majella O'Hare in 1976, 19 years before her own birth.

I'll have some of what you're having.*


*Apologies if your post was one big piece of satire. It can be a bit hard to tell around here sometimes.

[armaghniac]

You have to deal with people with different views than you. I'm not sure that you can expected to deal with people who join armed political organisations.

[Ulick]

Tis truly heartening to see all of these fine specimens of Irish manhood support the right of the English armed forces to recruit impressionable Irish children to go off and fight aggressive and imperial wars on their behalf. Sure 1p off the price of a litre and we're all winners...

[Maguire01]

Amazing these people on here who are supporting a 14 year old in her right to murder a 12 year old walking to chapel in her own townland in our Country and think the 14 year old should be presented with a reward in her training to do the same.

Shame on youse.
Total and utter shame.

I think you've lost the plot.

Tis truly heartening to see all of these fine specimens of Irish manhood support the right of the English armed forces to recruit impressionable Irish children to go off and fight aggressive and imperial wars on their behalf.

I don't believe the Cadets are sent to fight wars.

[nifan]

1. Has any GAA Board members got a Duke Duke Duke Duke of Earl Earl Earl Duke of Edinburgh award?

2. What is the Irish equivalent of the Duke's award?

Ive got a silver, never got round to completing my gold - had the hike only remaining.

The Irish equivalent is the presidents award - Gaisce

[Rossfan]

a member of an army that has terrorised this place for years. 

A 14 year old girl? Don't think she has done much in the way of terrorising. He was it seems doing a good job untill this. He was wrong, no excuses.

She is a  still a member of the British Army who are responsible for terrorising this country and whose country continue to occupy it. Why should he be giving an award to the army that a lot of his colleagues fought against?

Ok, if she's just like all British soldiers, I wonder if you could answer the following simple question:  back in the day, do you think that a 14-year-old female who was an army cadet would have been a "legitimate" target?  I mean, could Irish republicans have convinced themselves that booby-trapping her school bus was OK in the name of Irish freedom?

Simple yes or no.  Thank-you.

does tonto support the killing of Majella o'Hare?
Simpple yes or no. Thank-you.

[armaghniac]

All this talk of legitimate targets is a distraction. There are plenty of people I would avoid, but I don't advocate shooting them,

[Tonto]

a member of an army that has terrorised this place for years. 

A 14 year old girl? Don't think she has done much in the way of terrorising. He was it seems doing a good job untill this. He was wrong, no excuses.

She is a  still a member of the British Army who are responsible for terrorising this country and whose country continue to occupy it. Why should he be giving an award to the army that a lot of his colleagues fought against?

Ok, if she's just like all British soldiers, I wonder if you could answer the following simple question:  back in the day, do you think that a 14-year-old female who was an army cadet would have been a "legitimate" target?  I mean, could Irish republicans have convinced themselves that booby-trapping her school bus was OK in the name of Irish freedom?

Simple yes or no.  Thank-you.

does tonto support the killing of Majella o'Hare?
Simpple yes or no. Thank-you.

No.

Still waiting on an answer to my last question.

[Myles Na G.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghaawbn-1TM

Amazing these people on here who are supporting a 14 year old in her right to murder a 12 year old walking to chapel in her own townland in our Country and think the 14 year old should be presented with a reward in her training to do the same.

Shame on youse.
Total and utter shame.


The Majella O'Hare killing aroused considerable concern at the time because of clear ambiguities in the account of the British army as to why shots had been fired. SDLP MLA Dominic Bradley said the HET report contradicts the Army's story.

"The soldier and the Parachute Regiment maintained there was a gunman present in the area on that day and that he had fired shots at them and that the soldier had returned fire.

"But as the HET report clearly shows that was not the case," Mr Bradley said.

"So the truth of Majella's death needs to be acknowledged by the British  government."

A soldier, Private Michael Williams, was charged with manslaughter after an RUC investigation, but was acquitted in court.

Two weeks ago, the HET said it had sent a letter to Majella's mother, regarding its findings and that the final copy of its report would be sent to her in "four to six weeks".

An HET spokesman added: "The original RUC investigation found that Private Michael Williams was not returning fire at a gunman as he claimed and they recommended to prosecutors that he be charged with manslaughter.

The HET supports the findings of the original investigation. They also say the RUC investigation was thorough and good.

The killing of Majella also caused outrage and concern outside Ireland. On the Isle of Man her death led directly to the establishment of the `Anti-Militarist-Alliance' (members of Mec Vannin and the Manx branch of the Celtic League). The AMA subsequently campaigned against the use of the Isle of Man for training purposes by the British Army and the base at Jurby providing rest and recuperation for troops from Ireland. Training exercises eventually ended and the base closed.

It is hoped that after waiting over thirty years the family of Majella O'Hare will get both justice and closure.

Those on this Board who have made comments on this thread in derogation of what would be right are cheap weasel mouthed baggage carrying sneaking regarder scum whilst they may not be the murderers of Majella their minds appear to support the british in their anti Irish ways. Scum.

If there's a Duke of Edinburgh Award for being an Ignorant Bigoted Arsehole, you've got my nomination.