Brian McGuigan and Phillip Jordan announce their retirement

Started by muppet, November 01, 2011, 08:57:24 PM

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Quote from: eriugaMS on November 01, 2011, 11:31:09 PM
Jordan cannot ever be a great after his stunt in 2003.

Feigning injury and hurt to get D Marsden sent off will only ever send out the message he was a cheat and perjursit (By action) and an insult of all that is good in our sport.  Yes it may have won him an AI medal but to do so by such mal-practice of all that is good in Gaa was and is a heresy to all proper supporters of the game.

He may be remembered for a few all Ireland medals but in the minds of many he will be remembered for being a cheat and as yellow as a duck's foot

McGuigan did something similar to try and get Miskella sent off in '09.
I wouldn't let that overshadow their finer moments. Every player has at least one moment that they are or should be ashamed of.

FERDIE

As a Derry man who suffered severe defeats at the hands and defeats of these two boys, I congratulate them and thank them for the hours of enjoyment they gave me watching them over the years.

I find it difficult to understand those who try to degrade them by hauling up things they might have done on the pitch at times. Name a player who hasn't.

under the bar

QuoteFeigning injury and hurt to get D Marsden sent off will only ever send out the message he was a cheat and perjursit (By action) and an insult of all that is good in our sport.  Yes it may have won him an AI medal but to do so by such mal-practice of all that is good in Gaa was and is a heresy to all proper supporters of the game.

So the same goes from Francie Bellew then I take it?  ::)

Thankfully real GAA people see a bit more than the likes of you.

Ciarrai_thuaidh

2 class acts. Would definitely be in my best 15 of the past 15 years or so. I wish them well in their retirement.
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fitzroyalty

McGuigan was a class player and it is sad to see him go.

Jordan is a c*nt and I just hope he means it this time.

cornafean

Quote from: BennyHarp on November 02, 2011, 08:54:22 AM
Did Mulligan not RTE get man of the match in the 2005 final? Not bad for an average performance in what was widely regarded as the best final in years.

He did, but that particular selection was regarded as a bit of a joke at the time.
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sammymaguire

Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 02, 2011, 12:48:35 PM
McGuigan was a class player and it is sad to see him go.

Jordan is a c*nt and I just hope he means it this time.

ditto
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seafoid

I remember June 2008 and reports filtering through that the McGuigans were playing well.
For putting Kerry to the sword 3 times in a row, we will never forget you.   

And it was wonderful to see Frank McGuigan, whose own glittering career was cut short by an accident,
have the pleasure of seeing the McGuigan name on not just one Tyrone team that won the ultimate prize.

loughshore lad

#39
Sad to hear of Brian's retirement from county football.

From he started to play youth football in Ardboe and propel teams to underage titles it was always obvious he was one of those special talents that came around every so often.  Underage titles annexed he came off the bench in the final after recovering from 2 broken collar bones in 1998 to help guide Ardboe to their last senior title.

Tyrone obviously soon came calling where he provided so many exhilarating displays its almost impossible to talk about them all but I suppose the '05 final against Kerry will always linger, as O'Neill pointed out in a previous post his stats that day were simply phenomenal.

Unfortunately he suffered a terrible leg break in 2006 when he was in my opinion the best player in the country.  To recover from walking round with the leg in a cage was testament to his character, but to come back from the eye injury that followed the next year was something else.

On return he may not have been quite the player he was prior to the injuries but he still had that wee bit of class that set him apart.  This year was easily his best since returning from those injuries.  He was as good a performer as Tyrone had all year and was excellent for Ardboe as well particularly earlier in the season.  In July, Ardboe played him at centre half back in a league game against Coalisland.  In the last 15 mins of that game he controlled affairs like only he can guiding the team home with the ball attracted to him like a magnet. 

Tyrone's loss will be Ardboes gain and hopefully he gets his hands on another O'Neill cup in the coming years.

BennyHarp

#40
Quote from: cornafean on November 02, 2011, 12:57:06 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on November 02, 2011, 08:54:22 AM
Did Mulligan not RTE get man of the match in the 2005 final? Not bad for an average performance in what was widely regarded as the best final in years.

He did, but that particular selection was regarded as a bit of a joke at the time.

Do you think RTE gave him the award as a joke?? I didnt particularly agree with the selection myself, but if experts suggested he was Man of the Match on All Ireland final day then he must have been a little bit better than average.

For what its worth though - in my opinion Brian should have won the MoM award that year along with an All Star but regardless of that himself and Philly have given us Tyrone fans many great days - thanks for the effort lads!

On another note - it is a very sad reflection on the Armagh lads on here when after 8 years they still feel the need to use insults like "c*nt" when referring to Philly Jordan - it really is pathetic!
That was never a square ball!!

haveaharp

Quote from: BennyHarp on November 02, 2011, 02:35:17 PM
Quote from: cornafean on November 02, 2011, 12:57:06 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on November 02, 2011, 08:54:22 AM
Did Mulligan not RTE get man of the match in the 2005 final? Not bad for an average performance in what was widely regarded as the best final in years.

He did, but that particular selection was regarded as a bit of a joke at the time.

On another note - it is a very sad reflection on the Armagh lads on here when after 8 years they still feel the need to use insults like "c*nt" when referring to Philly Jordan - it really is pathetic!

Shouldnt be using that word about any lad however you will never get agreement between Armagh and Tyrone folk on that incident in 2003. However its a sad reflection on the Tyrone lads that the best they can throw back is the Francie Bellew incident against Cavan. Whether anyone hit anyone in either incident it is clear that Jordan and many of his colleague were particularly adept at drawing a free (aka diving) whereas Bellew made a bit of a meal out of one incident where the guy half struck him with his forearm. Only a very one eyed man could not see that. All that aside both players would have been welcomed on any county team in the country and good luck to them both in their retirement.

Tyrones own

Quote from: haveaharp on November 02, 2011, 06:31:27 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on November 02, 2011, 02:35:17 PM
Quote from: cornafean on November 02, 2011, 12:57:06 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on November 02, 2011, 08:54:22 AM
Did Mulligan not RTE get man of the match in the 2005 final? Not bad for an average performance in what was widely regarded as the best final in years.

He did, but that particular selection was regarded as a bit of a joke at the time.

On another note - it is a very sad reflection on the Armagh lads on here when after 8 years they still feel the need to use insults like "c*nt" when referring to Philly Jordan - it really is pathetic!

Shouldnt be using that word about any lad however you will never get agreement between Armagh and Tyrone folk on that incident in 2003. However its a sad reflection on the Tyrone lads that the best they can throw back is the Francie Bellew incident against Cavan. Whether anyone hit anyone in either incident it is clear that Jordan and many of his colleague were particularly adept at drawing a free (aka diving) whereas Bellew made a bit of a meal out of one incident where the guy half struck him with his forearm. Only a very one eyed man could not see that. All that aside both players would have been welcomed on any county team in the country and good luck to them both in their retirement.

:D  He wasn't within a hounds gowl of him FFS!

Best of luck to the two lads on their retirements!
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
  - Walter Lippmann

Gaffer

Quote from: eriugaMS on November 01, 2011, 11:31:09 PM
Jordan cannot ever be a great after his stunt in 2003.

Feigning injury and hurt to get D Marsden sent off will only ever send out the message he was a cheat and perjursit (By action) and an insult of all that is good in our sport.  Yes it may have won him an AI medal but to do so by such mal-practice of all that is good in Gaa was and is a heresy to all proper supporters of the game.

He may be remembered for a few all Ireland medals but in the minds of many he will be remembered for being a cheat and as yellow as a duck's foot

What a load of balls !!!
"Well ! Well ! Well !  If it ain't the Smoker !!!"

under the bar

QuoteHowever its a sad reflection on the Tyrone lads that the best they can throw back is the Francie Bellew incident against Cavan. ............ Bellew made a bit of a meal out of one incident where the guy half struck him with his forearm. Only a very one eyed man could not see that. All that aside both players would have been welcomed on any county team in the country and good luck to them both in their retirement.

So Bellew made a bit of a meal about being struck by a raised arm on one occasion that resulted in a man getting the line?  Just like Jordan.   Great! We are in agreement then!

Francie was a great clubman tis true.