6 counties fuball and names in Irish

Started by seafoid, October 26, 2011, 10:43:16 PM

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Fear ón Srath Bán

In your opinion. Birth cert names can be changed, very easily, the original can never be changed.
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Eamonnca1

Of course it's my opinion. Who else's opinion would it be?

seafoid

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 27, 2011, 10:07:07 PM
The "original form" of your name is what's on your birth certificate regardless of what its etymology is.

You know you have been in the States too long when...

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Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 27, 2011, 10:15:52 PM
Of course it's my opinion. Who else's opinion would it be?

Is the idiom lost on you?

By your reasoning, women should never change their surnames on marrying (since it won't match their birth certs); the GAA would never have been formed in the first place since those games of distant antiquity were not being played when the founders' birth certificates were drawn up, etc., etc.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Fear ón Srath Bán

Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 27, 2011, 10:20:27 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 27, 2011, 10:15:52 PM
Of course it's my opinion. Who else's opinion would it be?

Is the idiom lost on you?

By your reasoning, women should never change their surnames on marrying (since it won't match their birth certs); the GAA would never have been formed in the first place since those games of distant antiquity were not being played when the founders' birth certificates were drawn up, etc., etc.

Is the smart alec intent of my reply lost on you?

Women change their surnames on marrying, I don't see them taking their current first name and translating it into another language so what that has to do with the price of fish I do not know.

And your last "point" about the GAA has got to be the most bizarre case of a straw man I have ever seen. How on earth you could interpret anything I said to mean "the GAA should never have been set up" is just beyond me. I'll have some of what you're smoking.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Yeah, I'm creasing up here at the brilliance of your 'wit'.

Call it reductio ad adsurdum re the founding of the GAA on my part, but to take the birth certificate as anything other than a record of a moment in (modern) time, a snapshot, betrays a shallowness of appreciation of tradition and awareness such that I would have assumed anyone who had an appreciation of the GAA to be simply incapable of.

Unless, of course, the original Irish form of your surname means something like the 'bald, fat, ugly insufferable fool'. I could understand your antipathy towards your origins in that particular case, certainly.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 27, 2011, 10:51:54 PM
Yeah, I'm creasing up here at the brilliance of your 'wit'.


I'd prefer it if you'd just bask in the glory of my magnificence since you know I'm right.

Aerlik

Quote from: sheamy on October 27, 2011, 11:21:49 AM
The vast majority of place names in Ireland come from Irish origins.

Béal Feirste - Mouth of the Sandbars
Doire - Oak Grove

Craigavon - Place of the roundabouts :D

Ómaigh - the virgin plain (now there's a lie and a half)

Not sure what the ancient policy was outside the 6 counties...

Craigavon...Carraig Abhainn.  Rock in the river?

Aye lads, seriously that border thingy should be cleansed from your mind.  We in the 6 are as Irish as you in the 26
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ONeill

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 27, 2011, 09:44:38 PM
Dear God I wish people would read the posts a bit more carefully before making fools out of themselves in their replies.  I'm going to spell this out a bit more clearly for the benefit of those who cannot read:

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 27, 2011, 12:58:31 AM
I've never agreed with this practice of translating peoples' names into their Irish equivalents. Your name is what your parents gave you in whatever language they chose.   

I don't ever remember the anglophone media referring to the Spanish cyclist Pedro Delgado as "Peter Thin".

Horrible use of the apostrophe there.

Always loved McMenamin's name as Gaeilge.
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spuds

Quote from: Aerlik on October 28, 2011, 06:58:56 PM
Quote from: sheamy on October 27, 2011, 11:21:49 AM
The vast majority of place names in Ireland come from Irish origins.

Béal Feirste - Mouth of the Sandbars
Doire - Oak Grove

Craigavon - Place of the roundabouts :D

Ómaigh - the virgin plain (now there's a lie and a half)

Not sure what the ancient policy was outside the 6 counties...

Craigavon...Carraig Abhainn.  Rock in the river?

Aye lads, seriously that border thingy should be cleansed from your mind.  We in the 6 are as Irish as you in the 26

How can New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Tasmania, Victoria and Western Australia be considered Irish ?
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ballinaman

Quote from: spuds on October 29, 2011, 01:11:56 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on October 28, 2011, 06:58:56 PM
Quote from: sheamy on October 27, 2011, 11:21:49 AM
The vast majority of place names in Ireland come from Irish origins.

Béal Feirste - Mouth of the Sandbars
Doire - Oak Grove

Craigavon - Place of the roundabouts :D

Ómaigh - the virgin plain (now there's a lie and a half)

Not sure what the ancient policy was outside the 6 counties...

Craigavon...Carraig Abhainn.  Rock in the river?

Aye lads, seriously that border thingy should be cleansed from your mind.  We in the 6 are as Irish as you in the 26

How can New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Tasmania, Victoria and Western Australia be considered Irish ?
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Eamonnca1

Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2011, 11:20:20 PM

Horrible use of the apostrophe there.

Correct use of the apostrophe. If it's the plural possessive then the apostrophe goes after the s.

Hardy

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 30, 2011, 05:51:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2011, 11:20:20 PM

Horrible use of the apostrophe there.

Correct use of the apostrophe. If it's the plural possessive then the apostrophe goes after the s.

Incorrect. The plural is "people", not peoples. The possessive of people is people's. There is a word "peoples" as the plural for nations or races, as in "the peoples of Western Europe". The possessive of this would have the apostrophe after the "s" as in "These peoples' history".