British State Collusion

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Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Truthsayer

#816
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2025, 12:39:12 PMNot collusion, likely inside info....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0206/1495057-clonoe-inquest/
War crimes - shooting dead men who could have been arrested...

Judge: "..said that no attempt was made by the soldiers to arrest any of the members of the IRA unit, even as they lay seriously injured and incapacitated either on the ground or in the cab of the lorry.
"He also rejected the soldiers' claims that the IRA members opened fire in the car park, saying they were "demonstrably untrue".

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 06, 2025, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2025, 12:39:12 PMNot collusion, likely inside info....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0206/1495057-clonoe-inquest/
War crimes - shooting dead men who could have been arrested...

Judge: "..said that no attempt was made by the soldiers to arrest any of the members of the IRA unit, even as they lay seriously injured and incapacitated either on the ground or in the cab of the lorry.
"He also rejected the soldiers' claims that the IRA members opened fire in the car park, saying they were "demonstrably untrue".
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 06, 2025, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2025, 12:39:12 PMNot collusion, likely inside info....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0206/1495057-clonoe-inquest/
War crimes - shooting dead men who could have been arrested...

Judge: "..said that no attempt was made by the soldiers to arrest any of the members of the IRA unit, even as they lay seriously injured and incapacitated either on the ground or in the cab of the lorry.
"He also rejected the soldiers' claims that the IRA members opened fire in the car park, saying they were "demonstrably untrue".

Not to make any controversial claims, all volunteers knew the risks of carrying out operations like that and went in fully understanding that the worst possible outcome would be death, for sure the government forces should be following  their own standards, and any breach of those should be addressed, the findings show a complete disregard of any attempt to apprehend these young lads, nearly all of who were younger than my kids.

Obviously given up as the SAS were waiting and I don't think there were any lives lost at the station?

You'd wonder what would have happened had they been given the option?  Would they have simply put the hands up or tried to shoot their way out.. Never know now.. Whats to come out of this? An inquiry?

 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

#818
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 01:35:36 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 06, 2025, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2025, 12:39:12 PMNot collusion, likely inside info....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0206/1495057-clonoe-inquest/
War crimes - shooting dead men who could have been arrested...

Judge: "..said that no attempt was made by the soldiers to arrest any of the members of the IRA unit, even as they lay seriously injured and incapacitated either on the ground or in the cab of the lorry.
"He also rejected the soldiers' claims that the IRA members opened fire in the car park, saying they were "demonstrably untrue".
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 06, 2025, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2025, 12:39:12 PMNot collusion, likely inside info....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0206/1495057-clonoe-inquest/
War crimes - shooting dead men who could have been arrested...

Judge: "..said that no attempt was made by the soldiers to arrest any of the members of the IRA unit, even as they lay seriously injured and incapacitated either on the ground or in the cab of the lorry.
"He also rejected the soldiers' claims that the IRA members opened fire in the car park, saying they were "demonstrably untrue".

Not to make any controversial claims, all volunteers knew the risks of carrying out operations like that and went in fully understanding that the worst possible outcome would be death, for sure the government forces should be following  their own standards, and any breach of those should be addressed, the findings show a complete disregard of any attempt to apprehend these young lads, nearly all of who were younger than my kids.

Obviously given up as the SAS were waiting and I don't think there were any lives lost at the station?

You'd wonder what would have happened had they been given the option?  Would they have simply put the hands up or tried to shoot their way out.. Never know now.. Whats to come out of this? An inquiry?

 
Wtf!  Is clear. Could and should have been arrested. That's soldiers engaging in war crimes...


LC

The SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 06, 2025, 01:41:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 01:35:36 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 06, 2025, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2025, 12:39:12 PMNot collusion, likely inside info....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0206/1495057-clonoe-inquest/
War crimes - shooting dead men who could have been arrested...

Judge: "..said that no attempt was made by the soldiers to arrest any of the members of the IRA unit, even as they lay seriously injured and incapacitated either on the ground or in the cab of the lorry.
"He also rejected the soldiers' claims that the IRA members opened fire in the car park, saying they were "demonstrably untrue".
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 06, 2025, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2025, 12:39:12 PMNot collusion, likely inside info....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0206/1495057-clonoe-inquest/
War crimes - shooting dead men who could have been arrested...

Judge: "..said that no attempt was made by the soldiers to arrest any of the members of the IRA unit, even as they lay seriously injured and incapacitated either on the ground or in the cab of the lorry.
"He also rejected the soldiers' claims that the IRA members opened fire in the car park, saying they were "demonstrably untrue".

Not to make any controversial claims, all volunteers knew the risks of carrying out operations like that and went in fully understanding that the worst possible outcome would be death, for sure the government forces should be following  their own standards, and any breach of those should be addressed, the findings show a complete disregard of any attempt to apprehend these young lads, nearly all of who were younger than my kids.

Obviously given up as the SAS were waiting and I don't think there were any lives lost at the station?

You'd wonder what would have happened had they been given the option?  Would they have simply put the hands up or tried to shoot their way out.. Never know now.. Whats to come out of this? An inquiry?

 
Wtf!  Is clear. Could and should have been arrested. That's soldiers engaging in war crimes...



Its not a WTF post, I read the report just as much as you, and remember it vividly at the time, this was a dirty war, there are no niceties, I've also said they had a complete disregard in apprehending them or following any sort of lawful code of conduct. 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 06, 2025, 01:41:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 01:35:36 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 06, 2025, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2025, 12:39:12 PMNot collusion, likely inside info....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0206/1495057-clonoe-inquest/
War crimes - shooting dead men who could have been arrested...

Judge: "..said that no attempt was made by the soldiers to arrest any of the members of the IRA unit, even as they lay seriously injured and incapacitated either on the ground or in the cab of the lorry.
"He also rejected the soldiers' claims that the IRA members opened fire in the car park, saying they were "demonstrably untrue".
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 06, 2025, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2025, 12:39:12 PMNot collusion, likely inside info....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0206/1495057-clonoe-inquest/
War crimes - shooting dead men who could have been arrested...

Judge: "..said that no attempt was made by the soldiers to arrest any of the members of the IRA unit, even as they lay seriously injured and incapacitated either on the ground or in the cab of the lorry.
"He also rejected the soldiers' claims that the IRA members opened fire in the car park, saying they were "demonstrably untrue".

Not to make any controversial claims, all volunteers knew the risks of carrying out operations like that and went in fully understanding that the worst possible outcome would be death, for sure the government forces should be following  their own standards, and any breach of those should be addressed, the findings show a complete disregard of any attempt to apprehend these young lads, nearly all of who were younger than my kids.

Obviously given up as the SAS were waiting and I don't think there were any lives lost at the station?

You'd wonder what would have happened had they been given the option?  Would they have simply put the hands up or tried to shoot their way out.. Never know now.. Whats to come out of this? An inquiry?

 
Wtf!  Is clear. Could and should have been arrested. That's soldiers engaging in war crimes...



Its not a WTF post, I read the report just as much as you, and remember it vividly at the time, this was a dirty war, there are no niceties, I've also said they had a complete disregard in apprehending them or following any sort of lawful code of conduct. 
British forces were another arm of loyalism right back to colluding with the Glennane Gang in the 1970s... was more than a dirty war. Was the British state murdering it's own citizens, whether they were civilians or combatants that could have been arrested.

Snapchap

Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 01:45:23 PMThe SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

The IRA had precisely nothing to do with the Omagh bomb.

LC

Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 01:45:23 PMThe SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

The IRA had precisely nothing to do with the Omagh bomb.

Are you saying it was the Bad IRA who planted the Omagh bomb and not the Good IRA.

Snapchap

Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 01:45:23 PMThe SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

The IRA had precisely nothing to do with the Omagh bomb.

Are you saying it was the Bad IRA who planted the Omagh bomb and not the Good IRA.

Are you saying the PIRA and the Real IRA are the same organisation?